• Zero Punctuation: Borderlands 2
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To people saying it's more fun with friends, ANY game is fun with friends, even if it involves moping the floor in a shopping mall.
[QUOTE=Hawke7;37910857]To people saying it's more fun with friends, ANY game is fun with friends, even if it involves moping the floor in a shopping mall.[/QUOTE] the game is designed around coop [editline]12:38[/editline] saying a coop game needs to be just as fun without coop is like saying guitar hero needs to be just as fun without having to hit the notes on time you can't just ignore core game design choices and get the intended experience
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;37910876]the game is designed around coop [editline]12:38[/editline] saying a coop game needs to be just as fun without coop is like saying guitar hero needs to be just as fun without having to hit the notes on time you can't just ignore core game design choices and get the intended experience[/QUOTE] It doesn't do the coop thing well enough though. Sure they allow you to connect easier this time around but the boss/enemy balancing for more than two people is pretty stupid and looting is not designed with coop in mind at all. Considering loot is half the game it's strange they didn't do anything to improve it. What does coop change in the game? You will still have to grind, kill hoards of enemies, use the retarded buggy and loot stuff, but now with other people involved it takes longer to kill and harder to get loot due to no distribution systems. In the end I don't see how exactly it's that much more coop-centric than single player. Only thing I ever noticed is that you need another person to kill shield bearing mobs faster, but I usually just shoot them in the foot and they open up.
You get more loot with more people and so you get stronger faster.
You also can't jump in in just any coop game if you actually want to do any damage or not feel overpowered. You need to keep pace by grinding a char in singleplayer just to play on a level with your friends or start over every time.
You do, however, level up faster due to the higher difficulty enemies. My brother was able to jump into a game with me at a lower level and catch up easily.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;37898262]no i meant that everyone was comparing it to bl1 when it is literally a completely different game with similar play style.[/QUOTE] the first is basically like the second only the second is a bit deeper. but really after like level 15 i've just stopped playing. it's because of the co op but noone has BL2 for the ps3. i agree with yahtzee most of the time, even if his points are a bit hyperbolic. the thing he said about all coop games though in that it isn't a game you should have to pay full price for if it requires friends to be fun. they could have at least made a bot system or something so those with no friends could at least play with a computer generated one.
I've never understood the whole "more or only fun with friends" idea, when I'm playing coop I always feel rushed to either get to the next area before my friend clears it all or pick up all the good drops first(this isn't as much of an issue when you both use different types of weapons, though). Only been having a lot of fun playing solo. The fact that coop makes sniping awful due to lag might be also be a part of it.
Why are you lot having such a shite time with coop Get better friends I had a fantastic time with 3 other people It was fun enough with 1 other guy Its like playing Left 4 Dead by yourself, it's a lot more fun with other people
I prefer to play by myself. Yes, it's really goddamn hard, but I don't have any friends to play with, and everyone in pubs are fucking faggots.
[QUOTE=Hawke7;37910857]To people saying it's more fun with friends, ANY game is fun with friends, even if it involves moping the floor in a shopping mall.[/QUOTE] this is a really fucking dumb thing to say, and I see it everywhere, stop it. I mean, you could take any game on the market and add that ridiculous parroted phrase to it, and it doesn't make it true, so what. A game that's fucking created around the idea of coop IS FUN WITH FRIENDS AND OTHER PEOPLE? Well colour me blue, I'm shocked
[QUOTE=The very best;37913703]this is a really fucking dumb thing to say, and I see it everywhere, stop it. I mean, you could take any game on the market and add that ridiculous parroted phrase to it, and it doesn't make it true, so what. A game that's fucking created around the idea of coop IS FUN WITH FRIENDS AND OTHER PEOPLE? Well colour me blue, I'm shocked[/QUOTE] That's not the point, a game that can be played alone shouldn't HAVE to be played with other people just to be any good, a game that has singleplayer should still be good in singleplayer. Any game is fun if you play it with friends, saying "it's fun with friends" means absolutely zero.
I think its fine since the game was built around fun co-op.
Think of it this way. Battlefield/COD singleplayer modes are seriously awful. But their multiplayer is pretty good. Both games were obviously built around multiplayer, so making singleplayer any more than a minor complain would be silly. Singleplayer can be boring in BL2, but online it gets a lot better.
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