• Jim Carrey says the old him is gone, meet his replacement
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The dude has always been thin... His skin is a bit more flobby, but the man is 55, and has worked his ass off for quite a while.
[QUOTE=ManinCombat;52713563][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNE69WyL0U0[/media][/QUOTE] Dang, looking back now ALL of his positive attitude was probably fake. I can’t see him the same in his movies either.
From that first interview video with the woman I thought he was just fucking around, but this is legit ego death. At this point I'm sure he did some high dose psyches and broke though. Kind of respectable but still a bit crazy and sad...
Jim Carrey is a character, but he forgot how to play Jim Carrey. That's wild.
[QUOTE=Foogooman;52717159]From that first interview video with the woman I thought he was just fucking around, but this is legit ego death. At this point I'm sure he did some high dose psyches and broke though. Kind of respectable but still a bit crazy and sad...[/QUOTE] seems like he's still on his feet though, some clips like the one in the OP definitely make him seem way more off his rocker than he is. he just seems to get a hollow look in his eyes whenever he talks about something spiritual.
I hope he's doing alright, he always made me happy. His happiness is more important though.
I always found the whole no self belief to be horrifically destructive and meaningless, and in no way relating to any sort of healthy spirituality.
I rewatched a bunch of Jim Carrey's movies on netflix about a week ago with that interview in mind and I noticed that Bruce Almighty as well as Me, Myself, & Irene have plots/subplots centered around his character saying "I hate being the funny/nice guy." Probably just coincidence.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52717911]I rewatched a bunch of Jim Carrey's movies on netflix about a week ago with that interview in mind and I noticed that Bruce Almighty as well as Me, Myself, & Irene have plots/subplots centered around his character saying "I hate being the funny/nice guy." Probably just coincidence.[/QUOTE] I always felt that Jim Carrey's comedy had a highly nihilistic under tone rather frequently, behind all of his lighthearted acts seems to hide a pitch black sadness.
jesus, what happened to him? colbert and carrell got past their weird personas without coming off as totally depressed. i hope he finds some joy in life and wish him all the best but he just seems like he's lying to himself. [editline]25th September 2017[/editline] on second thought its just the clip thats really bad, he seems to be pretty happy in other clips
This is sort of the ideal end-result of clinical depression, at least in my perspective. When you're depressed, you spend an enormous amount of time and energy trying to present a version of yourself that isn't depressed. You don't want to be depressed, so you basically [I]act[/I] like you aren't. While some people use that as a coping method, it's often a distraction from the underlying issues of self-identity that define who you are as a person. Carrey's using some weird ego-death language to portray it here, but it's something I've experienced, too. Learning to accept and indulge in your depressive tendencies, instead of hiding them under a veil of humor, tends to help you become comfortable with the reality of your situation. For depressed people, "fake it til you make it" is terrible advice - and Carrey's made an entire acting career out of that. He seems to be taking a more grounded and realistic approach to defining his own identity, instead. Except he's explaining it as "Jim Carrey is gone" when really it's more like "the Jim Carrey you all knew was just a persona I created to cope with deep-seated issues of depression and identity, this is the real me and I'm weird and depressed sometimes and that's okay." I might be reading too much into it, but I've experienced similar stuff and it's tough to get over. This looks to me like an absolute acceptance of who you are, regardless of how much you like it, or how depressed you are, or how awkward you can be, or any of those ugly parts of yourself you hate. It makes you a little weird and confusing, but it's a more honest portrayal of your character, and it does help dismantle depression. The fact that Carrey can talk so plainly about his struggles hints at that to me - he's not proud of it or ashamed of it, it's just part of who he is, and the "old him" was just a facade he built to hide his shame and insecurities.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;52714314]That movie is legit perfect.[/QUOTE] It breaks me every time I watch it and that's why I keep watching it
Wasn't 2017 the year to pity Brendan Frasier? :D Carrey can get the whole of 2018...
[video=youtube;Nh2iyPmucFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2iyPmucFk[/video]
[QUOTE=J!NX;52713538]Its wild to see a man just kind of lose himself the worst kind of disease, depression, where its you who destroys yourself, not an illness[/QUOTE] It absolutely is an illness.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;52718071]This is sort of the ideal end-result of clinical depression, at least in my perspective. When you're depressed, you spend an enormous amount of time and energy trying to present a version of yourself that isn't depressed. You don't want to be depressed, so you basically [I]act[/I] like you aren't. While some people use that as a coping method, it's often a distraction from the underlying issues of self-identity that define who you are as a person. Carrey's using some weird ego-death language to portray it here, but it's something I've experienced, too. Learning to accept and indulge in your depressive tendencies, instead of hiding them under a veil of humor, tends to help you become comfortable with the reality of your situation. For depressed people, "fake it til you make it" is terrible advice - and Carrey's made an entire acting career out of that. He seems to be taking a more grounded and realistic approach to defining his own identity, instead. Except he's explaining it as "Jim Carrey is gone" when really it's more like "the Jim Carrey you all knew was just a persona I created to cope with deep-seated issues of depression and identity, this is the real me and I'm weird and depressed sometimes and that's okay." I might be reading too much into it, but I've experienced similar stuff and it's tough to get over. This looks to me like an absolute acceptance of who you are, regardless of how much you like it, or how depressed you are, or how awkward you can be, or any of those ugly parts of yourself you hate. It makes you a little weird and confusing, but it's a more honest portrayal of your character, and it does help dismantle depression. The fact that Carrey can talk so plainly about his struggles hints at that to me - he's not proud of it or ashamed of it, it's just part of who he is, and the "old him" was just a facade he built to hide his shame and insecurities.[/QUOTE] I agree completely. There's too much mania around happiness these days. "If you're not happy, nobody will like you". I think "fake it 'til you make it" is awful advice but it's so common these days.
[QUOTE=Antimuffin;52729871][video=youtube;Nh2iyPmucFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2iyPmucFk[/video][/QUOTE] Even though the Ace Ventura films aged disproportionately badly when compared to his other comedies, this scene will forever be a classic
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52729902]It absolutely is an illness.[/QUOTE] point missed
This is really cool, I honestly don't see what you guys are upset about. He has gained a really awesome perspective of self and life
[QUOTE=Kylel999;52713552]Supposedly he did DMT and a bunch of other hallucinogens and he's pretty much acting like he's suffering from psychosis and nobody will say it. My stupid stoner friends keep cheering him on for being like this and I seem to be the only one of my friend group who sees that this dude is fucked up in a bad way right now[/QUOTE] Show some fucking compassion.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;52713552]Supposedly he did DMT and a bunch of other hallucinogens and he's pretty much acting like he's suffering from psychosis and nobody will say it. My stupid stoner friends keep cheering him on for being like this and I seem to be the only one of my friend group who sees that this dude is fucked up in a bad way right now[/QUOTE] Fucked up how exactly?
I'm happy for Jim. A lot of people are treating him like he's broken or something over this and that's really an unkind and unhelpful way to treat anybody, it can make you feel extremely alienated.
[QUOTE=portalcrazy;52730883]point missed[/QUOTE] I don't think so. It may not be an illness like the flu or cancer, but it's still very real. This perception needs to change for progress to happen. Recognition that depression is an illness is paramount.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52733586]I don't think so. It may not be an illness like the flu or cancer, but it's still very real. This perception needs to change for progress to happen. Recognition that depression is an illness is paramount.[/QUOTE] You [b]do[/b] realize he wasn't saying depression wasn't an illness, right? He was saying depression is an illness wherein it's not the disease [b]itself[/b] that destroys you, but rather it's an illness where [b]you[/b] destroy yourself. Granted, it's the illness that [b]causes[/b] you to destroy yourself, but that's irrelevant to the point he was making.
[QUOTE=medal12;52713565]I personally don't think we'll be mourning him next year at all, how morbid to even suggest that. I think Jim is talking like a realist and I applaud him for not being so scared to have negative emotions because they don't dominate him, he's empowered and enlightened and is now far from the shallow pointlessness of stardom, with every interview I see of him you can really tell the interviewer is grasping at straws trying to ask Jim about some faceless subject with little meaning and I say fair play to Jim for not pretending to give a shit for sake of face, he's on his own path to recovery and everyone is acting like this is the end of Jim Carrey but really it's the end of our nostalgia, people grow up, even the celebrities that we used to love watching as kids/adults. I'd be more worried if Jim was shackled to the industry forcing out terrible flicks such like Adam Sandler did.[/QUOTE] I don't know about mourning him, but I will say the way he describes it in this video does not indicate that he's all that empowered. It really sounds like he's struggling to find a new identity. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, but if everyone keeps pushing at him right now it might confuse him more than he already sounds like he is. Hopefully I'm wrong though. I've been rather dismissive and indifferent about most things in my life so I can appreciate the perspective he's taking and I hope it's something he's choosing for himself and not something that blindsided him. Then again I might be over-examining the whole thing because of the bias we place on comedians who seem like they're becoming outwardly depressed.
[QUOTE=TreasoN.avi;52737240]I don't know about mourning him, but I will say the way he describes it in this video does not indicate that he's all that empowered. It really sounds like he's struggling to find a new identity. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, but if everyone keeps pushing at him right now it might confuse him more than he already sounds like he is. Hopefully I'm wrong though. I've been rather dismissive and indifferent about most things in my life so I can appreciate the perspective he's taking and I hope it's something he's choosing for himself and not something that blindsided him. Then again I might be over-examining the whole thing because of the bias we place on comedians who seem like they're becoming outwardly depressed.[/QUOTE] He's saying that identity is like a costume
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