Spartan Body Armor That Gets Thicker As You Get Shot - General

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;46605042]You should never fear you're government since the government is the people and when faced against the people it has no power. Really? Who's going to invade the US? Canada? North Korea? Why are Americans so paranoid?[/QUOTE] Because at this point, the government barely represents the interests of the people, or at least the majority that isn't wealthy enough to buy a senator. I don't think we're anywhere near armed revolt yet, but I think some people take comfort in knowing that they could make their own little last stand if the government ever did start to take away their rights or something.

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;46605042]You should never fear you're government since the government is the people and when faced against the people it has no power. Really? Who's going to invade the US? Canada? North Korea? Why are Americans so paranoid?[/QUOTE] We're not. We've watched Democratic governments turn into dictatorships. A core part of our constitution is set up to allow us to have the proper armaments and equipment to fight should that happen.

[QUOTE=Griffster26;46602046]Holy fuck that forehead[/QUOTE] More like a fivehead

One of the most legitimate reasons that I can guess as to why a civilian would want to own body armor is just plain old overpreparedness. You know, be ready for anything. Apocalypse? Ain't no one fatally shooting me in the torso. Zombie apocalypse in which zombies learn they can use firearms? My torso is protected! Quentin Tarantino accidentally spurs a reboot of the 1965 classic 'The LA Riots'? Those looters may take my TVs, but they'll never take my torso! Neighbors been injecting the marijuanas again? Their doobie blasters will roll right off of my torso protection! The list goes on, but my point, in tl;dr, is that there are some other reasons to own armor besides premeditated crime or belligerent local state and federal law enforcement.

[QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;46605418]One of the most legitimate reasons that I can guess as to why a civilian would want to own body armor is just plain old overpreparedness. You know, be ready for anything. Apocalypse? Ain't no one fatally shooting me in the torso. Zombie apocalypse in which zombies learn they can use firearms? My torso is protected! Quentin Tarantino accidentally spurs a reboot of the 1965 classic 'The LA Riots'? Those looters may take my TVs, but they'll never take my torso! Neighbors been injecting the marijuanas again? Their doobie blasters will roll right off of my torso protection! The list goes on, but my point, in tl;dr, is that there are some other reasons to own armor besides premeditated crime or belligerent local state and federal law enforcement.[/QUOTE] those goddamn immigrants might take our jobs, our women, and our freeze peaches, but by god they'll never take my torso

[QUOTE=Biscuit-Boy;46605418]One of the most legitimate reasons that I can guess as to why a civilian would want to own body armor is just plain old overpreparedness. You know, be ready for anything. Apocalypse? Ain't no one fatally shooting me in the torso. Zombie apocalypse in which zombies learn they can use firearms? My torso is protected! Quentin Tarantino accidentally spurs a reboot of the 1965 classic 'The LA Riots'? Those looters may take my TVs, but they'll never take my torso! Neighbors been injecting the marijuanas again? Their doobie blasters will roll right off of my torso protection! The list goes on, but my point, in tl;dr, is that there are some other reasons to own armor besides premeditated crime or belligerent local state and federal law enforcement.[/QUOTE] There are other reasons to own a Stinger anti-air missile besides shooting down Hind gunships.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46605541]You do realize as a US citizen you can legally own almost every form of weapon on the planet, short of WMD's.. Right? You do realize the process is rather expensive and time consuming, but if you have the dosh and the time, you can own anything you'd like.[/QUOTE] That's the point I was trying to make about body armor, it should be regulated. [QUOTE=nox;46604887] It should definitely be an ATF regulated item that requires paperwork. [/QUOTE]

Seems pretty pointless to walk around with plates unless you're planning on walking into a warzone or having a shootout with local swat. Do people actually buy these ?

I've been subbed to this channel for a while now and they make some really cool videos. I love the 5 guns segment they do, a lot.

[QUOTE=Lijitsu;46605292]We're not. We've watched Democratic governments turn into dictatorships. A core part of our constitution is set up to allow us to have the proper armaments and equipment to fight should that happen.[/QUOTE] Yeah, this was relevant back in the 1760's. Today that's just silly. Keep your guns (there are too many unregistered guns on the street to make a functional ban either way), but justifying it like it's some old wisdom from "the founding fathers" always make me smile a bit. For all intents and purposes, the US is a well-functioning democracy. [editline]30th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ilikecorn;46605071]Because when we let our guard down stupid fucking shit like the PATRIOT act gets passed and the NSA gets to play "fuck you congress". Paranoia keeps the government in check, a healthy distrust of the government is significantly better than believing that "oh, they're totally looking out for me".[/QUOTE] You should always be critical of your government, but issues like that aren't solved by owning guns. I mean, you have lots of them right now, but "when you let your guard down" they pass stuff like the patriot act? What does "letting your guard down" mean anyway? That you didn't march a militia through Washington D.C.?

When people want their guns to fight the government, do they realize they are going to fight fighter jets and tanks, with guns. Do they think that is going to work somehow?

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;46605800]Yeah, this was relevant back in the 1760's. Today that's just silly. Keep your guns (there are too many unregistered guns on the street to make a functional ban either way), but justifying it like it's some old wisdom from "the founding fathers" always make me smile a bit. For all intents and purposes, the US is a well-functioning democracy. [editline]30th November 2014[/editline] [/QUOTE] Strength through unity Unity through faith The High Chancellor has the situation well in hand.

[QUOTE=wheel_user;46605701]Seems pretty pointless to walk around with plates unless you're planning on walking into a warzone or having a shootout with local swat. Do people actually buy these ?[/QUOTE] The idea is not to constantly wear it, it's to keep it in your closet or your trunk so when the gunshots start ringing out across down, signaling the collapse of western society as we know it, you'll be many, many steps ahead of the competition in terms of torso protection.

[QUOTE=gastyne;46606627]When people want their guns to fight the government, do they realize they are going to fight fighter jets and tanks, with guns. Do they think that is going to work somehow?[/QUOTE] It's better than nothing, as demonstrated by every war we've fought since WWII.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46606892]Strength through unity Unity through faith The High Chancellor has the situation well in hand.[/QUOTE] What. Are you being serious right now?

[QUOTE=gastyne;46606627]When people want their guns to fight the government, do they realize they are going to fight fighter jets and tanks, with guns. Do they think that is going to work somehow?[/QUOTE] They have a hard enough time dealing with insurgents, and when they try, it's often with a lot of collateral damage. It's even harder to justify that level of force against US Citizens on home soil, where any sort of collateral damage would mean other citizens getting harmed. It's easy to keep dissent in check when the innocents you are killing with the splash damage from a JDAM are some group of afghanis you never saw before, instead of Jake & Ted from High School, or when you accidentally pop some hydra 70's on some afghan teenagers setting up a soccer field between some buildings instead of Mrs. Maury's Eighth Grade Class because you think they are setting up mortars. Most people are buying guns for protection or sport, not aggression. The fact that one in three US Citizens own a gun is the very reason why the government can't ever use elevated military force against it's own citizens to the level where the gun owners would be willing to shoot back, because otherwise Ted's dad would pull his gun on a senator when he goes out to eat, and Mrs. Maury will grab her husband's M16 and shoot the people she thinks are responsible. The whole point of civilians owning guns is to make sure nothing will ever get escalated that high by our own government, or do something so outrageous that it rustles the collective jimmies of a large enough populous to want to take retaliatory action (Think something like the Halabja massacre on US soil), as well as allowing the citizens themselves to be able to defend themselves in an invasion scenario, however unlikely. As poor as it is to assert that it would be in our government's interests to want to do something like that, there really would be no reason they -couldn't- if the citizens weren't armed, and that's why they are.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;46612813]What. Are you being serious right now?[/QUOTE] Yeah. I'm referencing a novel that was largely about placing the responsibility and power squarely in the hands of the government. Democracy works, but it not unless it is peace-time. Guns, on either side, tend to bring discussion to a halt. To say "It's okay guys, we did it, we've made the infallible democratic state" is basically to have faith in the state. The main point is, that you shouldn't, because, as history shows, the state eventually gets a dick in power, and so causes all kinds of problems.

[QUOTE=wheel_user;46605701]Seems pretty pointless to walk around with plates unless you're planning on walking into a warzone or having a shootout with local swat. Do people actually buy these ?[/QUOTE] People buy this stuff because they have the money for it. Some people like doing "tactical training" and this stuff is worn just in case for safety reasons.