• The 911 Conspiracy Theory Explained in 5 Minutes
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[QUOTE=scout1;36386314]Yes, that's called a false-flag operation This is nothing revolutionary or new.[/QUOTE] i was citing it because it's exceedingly similar to 9/11.
This isn't really new, when it comes to the whole 911 thing it's impossible to make people see it differently. They have already chosen their side and refuse to see things with an open mind.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36386336]Funny that you're mentioning SOPA, something that never made it through.[/QUOTE] which is why there are a bunch of other bills that are popping up that basically do the same shit sopa was going to do.
[QUOTE=lotusking;36386195] he only cites himself twice, and the only video he cites of himself is composed of news clips and narration... [/QUOTE] Besides the contradiction right here, citing yourself twice is twice too many
I couldn't tell if the video is actually a parody of conspiracy theories or a serious video. In both cases it's kinda dumb and pulling off way too much stretches. Also because the US government has taken advantage of the event to pass some rather odd laws doesn't mean they actually were behind it. Personally I don't know, I wasn't there, I wasn't part of the investigation, I wasn't part of the government, I have literally nothing more to do with the whole 9/11 case than being in front of the TV when it happened. But I'm intelligent enough to avoid pulling conclusions out of my ass. Most conspiracy theories are acts of pure desperation perpetuated from people who want to find a more convenient truth than what reality has to offer, and this aspect is way too often forgotten.
[QUOTE=Coffee;36386235]Don't you think it's rather convenient that an international incident occurs which in turn allows the government to control people's lives much more easily, perpetuating a borderline police state across the country? Just sayin'[/QUOTE] That's why all those dirty 99 percent protestors were jailed and assassinated right, because the US is a police state
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36386336]Funny that you're mentioning SOPA, something that never made it through.[/QUOTE] It's the thought that counts; the fact that the government(the people who are meant to be our benefactors) tried to put through a bill that cut away at liberties. SOPA was only stopped simply because enough awareness was raised.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;36386270]And this is why I feel anyone who feels bad for 9/11 needs to stop being sheep. Feel bad for those who died, but don't be ignorant and believe everything you're told. Actually take the time to think for yourself. Everything this guy mentions are all things I've wondered myself ever since it happened. Especially the part about 2 planes being hijacked and taken off course and yet they were not suspicious and fighter jets did not intercept them. And as for the Freedom tower being built nearby Ground Zero, I can't help but feel suspicious that it's being constructed with some dark agenda.[/QUOTE] Yes see it ties into the [I]other [/I]insane conspiracy theory the freedom tower is actually a weather control device, true story
[QUOTE=lotusking;36386356]i was citing it because it's exceedingly similar to 9/11.[/QUOTE] Let's ignore the facts that Cuba had recently come under the control of Fidel Castro, who pledged friendship with the Soviet Union (our enemy at the time) and that Cuba happens to be [I]right next to florida[/I], and that this was exposed and is open to the public for ridicule and examination. The 9/11 "conspiracy" isn't.
9/11 conspiracy theorists are very good at deciphering the tiny details about the event itself. What they fail to do time and time again is find a reasonable motive for why the US government would have committed the attacks.
[QUOTE=lotusking;36386356]i was citing it because it's exceedingly similar to 9/11.[/QUOTE] Yes it's about as similar as the roman invasion of germany and the french attack during the 'phony war' [editline]18th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=lotusking;36386368]which is why there are a bunch of other bills that are popping up that basically do the same shit sopa was going to do.[/QUOTE] This is normal legislation Stop electing retarded officials and it won't be a problem Correlation =/= causation
I'll start taking the truthers more seriously when they manage to come up with a general consensus as to what they believe happened. Until then, depending on which one you talk to, it can be any combination of the below. A trait they all share: sooner or later in the argument, they begin to call you a sheep/lapdog/braindead and continue to not use sources at all or use sources that have been debunked hundreds of times. [i]IT WAS A MILITARY PLANE[/i] [i]IT WAS A MISSILE[/i] [i]IT WAS A DRONE[/i] [i]IT WAS A HOLOGRAM[/i] LMAO [i]THE PASSENGERS WERE HIDDEN[/i] [i]THE PASSENGERS NEVER EXISTED[/i] [i]IT WAS C4[/i] [i]IT WAS THERMITE[/i] [i]93 WAS SHOT DOWN[/i] [i]93 NEVER EXISTED[/i] [i]IT WAS THE NWO[/i] [i]IT WAS CHENEY[/i] [i]IT WAS BUSH[/i] [i]IT WAS THE ASSAD[/i] [i]IT WAS ALIENS[/i]
[QUOTE=lotusking;36386195][B]he never links to one of his own videos.[/B] literally looked through all the sources, [B]he only cites himself twice,[/B] and the only video he cites of himself is composed of news clips and narration... and the other citation is just a interview with a whistleblower.[/QUOTE] I'm seeing some contradictions here. The news clips are mostly stock footage or describing an event that HE then goes into details on. It's skewed.
[QUOTE=Pantz76;36386409]9/11 conspiracy theorists are very good at deciphering the tiny details about the event itself. What they fail to do time and time again is find a reasonable motive for why the US government would have committed the attacks.[/QUOTE] to get da oil from da midle eest duuuuuh
-snip- actually has nothing to do with 9/11 in particular
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;36386270]Especially the part about 2 planes being hijacked and taken off course and yet they were not suspicious and fighter jets did not intercept them.[/QUOTE] It doesn't sound like you researched 9/11 at all. They knew all the planes were hijacked sometime before they crashed, and they did send out fighter jets, but they never managed to successfully intercept them.
[QUOTE=Coffee;36386235]Don't you think it's rather convenient that an international incident occurs which in turn allows the government to control people's lives much more easily, perpetuating a borderline police state across the country? Just sayin'[/QUOTE] Gulf of Tonkin incident projected the US into a fucking massive and brutal war. Why would they go to the length of 0 people killed to over 3000 for something less than the Indo-china region. [editline]18th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=lotusking;36386261]did you like even pay attention to the video? at all?[/QUOTE] Do you have any, you know, refutation other then saying the video is 100% fact that the US did 9/11?
[QUOTE=Pantz76;36386409]9/11 conspiracy theorists are very good at deciphering the tiny details about the event itself. What they fail to do time and time again is find a reasonable motive for why the US government would have committed the attacks.[/QUOTE] If there is enough evidence to suggest that there is a lot of cover up and lying , is the motive really significant? One theory, (although I don't agree with it) was that 911 was a false flag operation to prepare the nation for war.
[QUOTE=GhostSonic;36386558]It doesn't sound you researched 9/11 at all. They knew all the planes were hijacked sometime before they crashed, and they did send out fighter jets, but they never managed to successfully intercept them.[/QUOTE] The plane that crashed over Pennsylvania was going to be shot down by fighters had it approached the white house, but there was never a need because... yeah [editline]18th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36386566]Gulf of Tonkin incident projected the US into a fucking massive and brutal war. Why would they go to the length of 0 people killed to over 3000 for something less than the Indo-china region. [/QUOTE] Not to mention that Afghanistan has no strategic value on the world stage [editline]18th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=danelo;36386618]If there is enough evidence to suggest that there is a lot of cover up and lying , is the motive really significant? One theory, (although I don't agree with it) was that 911 was a false flag operation to prepare the nation for war.[/QUOTE] No, there is a lot of lack of evidence (as in government monitoring) for an event which was a national catastrophe which took the nation by surprise and comprised the destruction of huge buildings in the downtown new york area in the midst of a hell of a panic The lack of evidence is [B]not [/B]evidence
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
That was fucking stupid. I like how the first main point was basically "the US is too amazing and awesome to have been brought to it's knees by a bunch of dirty brown people." Some pissed off middle easterns flew a couple of planes into some buildings and got insanely lucky with the damage that resulted. Get over it.
[QUOTE=scout1;36386631] No, there is a lot of lack of evidence (as in government monitoring) for an event which was a national catastrophe which took the nation by surprise and comprised the destruction of huge buildings in the downtown new york area in the midst of a hell of a panic [/QUOTE] Well the whole point of the conspiracy was that the government was involved so why would you trust their evidence. The United States has a pretty bad track record when it comes to telling truth.
[QUOTE=danelo;36386912]Well the whole point of the conspiracy was that the government was involved so why would you trust their evidence. The United States has a pretty bad track record when it comes to telling truth.[/QUOTE] That's your entire argument? You don't trust them? I bet you believe that they put fluoride in the water, too. EDIT: To control you*
Debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories in one word: No
I used to buy into this shit when I was 15, then well, I grew up. You just gotta stop for a second and think "maybe the simple explanation is actually the correct one"
I think the problem with conspiracy theorists is that they don't take chance into account, they look at the straight ability of someone and say: "Well shit it can't be possible ever forever then!"
[QUOTE=scout1;36386950]That's your entire argument? You don't trust them? I bet you believe that they put fluoride in the water, too.[/QUOTE] Why should you trust them? They have been lying about everything for a good 10 years now. And what's with the generalizations? At least I have questions rather than just name calling.
[QUOTE=danelo;36387020]Why should you trust them? They have been lying about everything for a good 10 years now. And what's with the generalizations? At least I have questions rather than just name calling.[/QUOTE] Are you an avid viewer of alex jones
[QUOTE=scout1;36386950]That's your entire argument? You don't trust them? I bet you believe that they put fluoride in the water, too. EDIT: To control you*[/QUOTE] I was about to say!
[QUOTE=Pantz76;36386409]9/11 conspiracy theorists are very good at deciphering the tiny details about the event itself. What they fail to do time and time again is find a reasonable motive for why the US government would have committed the attacks.[/QUOTE] I like how it's either few extremists or the entire US government. It can't be elements within the government. The entire government has to be behind this with the president giving the order. [QUOTE=Scot;36386847]Some pissed off middle easterns flew a couple of planes into some buildings and got insanely lucky with the damage that resulted. [/QUOTE] Some religious fanatics from a small village in middle east got into some planes with knives, hijacked them, and flew them into the buildings while fooling and evading the US military. Is that what you're saying? You make it sound terrifyingly easy. I mean, anyone can do that then.
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