• The 911 Conspiracy Theory Explained in 5 Minutes
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[QUOTE=scout1;36389353]This information is publicly available and easily accessible with a google search[/QUOTE] So because it's public it means nobody did get rich on that? I don't get it. If this information wouldn't be made public then my argument would make sense? I really don't understand where are you going with this.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36389257]really? do you know anything about building structures and physics? do you even know that it collapsed at free fall speed? are you sure that, with the internal supports [B]gone[/B] it still isn't able to collapse? or are you just miming the shit you heard from dudes that are trying to sell you their 9/11 DVD's and make you feel special and "awake"[/QUOTE] I know nothing about building structures, so I should just let the experts form an opinion for me. I am miming the shit just as much as you are from the debunkers. The reason why I picked that video is because it doesn't involve 'secret documents' and reptilians/illuminati conspiracy things to prove a point, it just relies on plain physics to prove a point. And it's funny that you're agreeing that it's falling at free fall speed when every debunker would say otherwise.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36389370]"wahh you're not contributing to the discussion!!" - video - "its biased bullshit and here's why: _______"[/QUOTE] "all conspiracy videos are bullshit" "a video that supports my opinion, better post it" prove that video is backed up by anything or you might as well not have posted it
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[QUOTE=Silly Sil;36389402]So because it's public it means nobody did get rich on that? I don't get it. If this information wouldn't be made public then my argument would make sense? I really don't understand where are you going with this.[/QUOTE] You can see exactly where the US spent all its money for the last dozen+ fiscal years You said: [quote]I don't see how funding a terrorist cell by someone with power and money who's gonna profit off a war is such an insane idea. I mean the US has spent few trillion dollars? This money went somewhere.[/quote] Let me repeat: You can see exactly where the US spent all its money for the last dozen+ fiscal years Point it out to me, big boy
[QUOTE=danelo;36389421]I know nothing about building structures, so I should just let the experts form an opinion for me. I am miming the shit just as much as you are from the debunkers. The reason why I picked that video is because it doesn't involve 'secret documents' and reptilians/illuminati conspiracy things to prove a point, it just relies on plain physics to prove a point. And it's funny that you're agreeing that it's falling at free fall speed when every debunker would say otherwise.[/QUOTE] i never agreed that it fell at freefall speed.. not to mention my entire point was: prove to me that a building CANNOT FALL AT FREEFALL SPEED without being demolished with placed explosives? how do you know it isn't feasible for the building to have collapsed based on internal damage like the official report claims? [QUOTE=PowerBall v1;36389426]"all conspiracy videos are bullshit" "a video that supports my opinion, better post it" prove that video is backed up by anything or you might as well not have posted it[/QUOTE] i don't understand, is the video/photographic proof of damage to the WTC7 building, and the internal collapse of the building, starting with the east penthouse not enough? like what do you want me to prove that wasn't proven in the video right there
[QUOTE=scout1;36389449]You can see exactly where the US spent all its money for the last dozen+ fiscal years You said: Let me repeat: You can see exactly where the US spent all its money for the last dozen+ fiscal years Point it out to me, big boy[/QUOTE] [url]http://theweek.com/article/index/221883/the-federal-reserves-breathtaking-77-trillion-bank-bailout[/url] opps
[QUOTE=scout1;36389449]You can see exactly where the US spent all its money for the last dozen+ fiscal years You said: Let me repeat: You can see exactly where the US spent all its money for the last dozen+ fiscal years Point it out to me, big boy[/QUOTE] I still don't see the significance of it being public. Yes it's public. So? If it's public then no one got this money? It disappeared, what? This money went somewhere. Someone got it. I never meant it as "somewhere we don't know" nor "someone we don't know". [QUOTE=GenPol;36389448] [url]http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/conspiracy_tot4.gif[/url] [/QUOTE] Why would all these people need to know? You guys make even more retarded things than those who think it was illuminati.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36389462]i never agreed that it fell at freefall speed.. [/QUOTE] Well, sorry for misinterpreting you. Everyone is attacking me and trying to group me in as an obsessed and paranoid conspiracy theorist. I am only trying to debate the points David Chandler does in his video. [QUOTE=Kopimi;36389462] not to mention my entire point was: prove to me that a building CANNOT FALL AT FREEFALL SPEED without being demolished with placed explosives? how do you know it isn't feasible for the building to have collapsed based on internal damage like the official report claims?[/QUOTE] I can't. All I can prove, is that the NIST clearly falsified the report regarding free fall. That's the only thing I have on the table.
[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;36389473][url]http://theweek.com/article/index/221883/the-federal-reserves-breathtaking-77-trillion-bank-bailout[/url] opps[/QUOTE] This is publicly available, transparent information, [I]which is how it was discovered.[/I] I fail to see your point. [editline]18th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Silly Sil;36389507] This money went somewhere. Someone got it.[/QUOTE] ARe you retarded it fucking lists where the entire budget went what the fuck point are you trying to make
[QUOTE=danelo;36389529]Well, sorry for misinterpreting you. Everyone is attacking me and trying to group me in as an obsessed and paranoid conspiracy theorist. I am only trying to debate the points David Chandler does in his video.[/QUOTE] im not callin you crazy or anything, i'm just saying you have to analyze every little bit of what you say. if your argument is that WTC7 couldn't have fallen at freefall speed without demolition charges, you have a lot of things to explain first, like: - did it really fall at freefall speed? - how do you know it's not possible for it to have fallen due to internal damage? - how did a busy office building have demolition charges placed in it without anyone noticing? - if it was a controlled demolition, why can you observe the collapse of the penthouses from east to west, showing that the internal structure was collapsing shortly before the "free fall" began? - why are there no signs of explosion? - how did the charges remain operable after 7 hours of fires had their chance to burn up the wires and ruin detonators?
[QUOTE=scout1;36389552]ARe you retarded it fucking lists where the entire budget went what the fuck point are you trying to make[/QUOTE] I don't understand your point entirely. Wtf are you even talking about. Can you read at all? [QUOTE=Silly Sil;36389507]I still don't see the significance of it being public. Yes it's public. So? If it's public then no one got this money? It disappeared, what? This money went somewhere. Someone got it. [B]I never meant it as "somewhere we don't know" nor "someone we don't know".[/B] [/QUOTE] We can see where it all went. SO FUCKING WHAT? WHATS THE FUCKING POINT??
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;36389612]I don't understand your point entirely. Wtf are you even talking about. Can you read at all? We can see where it all went. SO FUCKING WHAT? WHATS THE FUCKING POINT??[/QUOTE] i don't understand [B]your[/B] point, you're speaking gibberish what money are you referring to, and what do you want to know about it?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;36389612]I don't understand your point entirely. Wtf are you even talking about. Can you read at all? We can see where it all went. SO FUCKING WHAT? WHATS THE FUCKING POINT??[/QUOTE] You implied the US funded the terror group which attacked the twin towers. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;36389291]I don't see how funding a terrorist cell by someone with power and money who's gonna profit off a war is such an insane idea. I mean the US has spent few trillion dollars? This money went somewhere. Of course I'm not saying that it all went to one pocket, but there has to be someone who got rich on this. Why is that more insane than some angry religious fanatics from a small village in middle east accomplishing all that without funding?[/QUOTE] I just pointed out why you're wrong.
[QUOTE=scout1;36389552]This is publicly available, transparent information[/QUOTE] so transparent that it was discovered by chance 3-4 years later $7.7 trillion
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36389635]i don't understand [B]your[/B] point, you're speaking gibberish what money are you referring to, and what do you want to know about it?[/QUOTE] Sigh. Have someone earned on the war? Or everyone lost and the money disappeared? I was under the impression that if I spend 100$ someone else will have it. [QUOTE=scout1;36389653]You implied the US funded the terror group which attacked the twin towers. I just pointed out why you're wrong.[/QUOTE] Where did I say it was the US? I said "someone with power and money". You really can't read. And someone explain this to me because I don't understand. I have a very hard time comprehending it. Why are there only 2 ways this could have been done? It was either a group of religious fanatics or it was thousands of fbi agents, firefighters, demoliiton experts, scientists, CIA, rescue workers, police, airline pilots, NSA, the majority of the House of Representatives, air traffic control, high-level military contractors, and the entire Bush administration.
[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;36389656]so transparent that it was discovered by chance 3-4 years later $7.7 trillion[/QUOTE] I wouldn't call a systematic analysis of the US budget "by chance"
[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;36389656]so transparent that it was discovered by chance 3-4 years later $7.7 trillion[/QUOTE] what about it? what 7.7 trillion are you referring to, the bank bailouts? what does that have to do with 9/11? [QUOTE=Silly Sil;36389666]Sigh. Have someone earned on the war? Or everyone lost and the money disappeared? I was under the impression that if I spend 100$ someone else will have it.[/QUOTE] ok so you want to know everybody who has profited/lost money as a result of 9/11 and the ensuing war on terror? that's a pretty big list dude. haliburton gained a shitload of military contracts as a result of the war though, and i think Dick Cheney was the CEO/President of the company or something, so if that's what you're looking for then yeah the Bush Administration profited from 9/11, but imo it was them seizing the opportunity and taking advantage of the crisis rather than orchestrating the greatest conspiracy in human history for a relatively meager profit, especially when they could have made more money much more easily through other methods
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36389716] ok so you want to know everybody who has profited/lost money as a result of 9/11 and the ensuing war on terror? that's a pretty big list dude. haliburton gained a shitload of military contracts as a result of the war though, and i think Dick Cheney was the CEO/President of the company or something, so if that's what you're looking for then yeah the Bush Administration profited from 9/11, but imo it was them seizing the opportunity and taking advantage of the crisis rather than orchestrating the greatest conspiracy in human history for a relatively meager profit, especially when they could have made more money much more easily through other methods[/QUOTE] I'm just saying that someone out of that list could've funded the terrorists. I wouldn't think it was all of them.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36389716]what about it? what 7.7 trillion are you referring to, the bank bailouts? what does that have to do with 9/11? ok so you want to know everybody who has profited/lost money as a result of 9/11 and the ensuing war on terror? that's a pretty big list dude. haliburton gained a shitload of military contracts as a result of the war though, and i think Dick Cheney was the CEO/President of the company or something, so if that's what you're looking for then yeah the Bush Administration profited from 9/11, but imo it was them seizing the opportunity and taking advantage of the crisis rather than orchestrating the greatest conspiracy in human history for a relatively meager profit, especially when they could have made more money much more easily through other methods[/QUOTE] i wouldn't say bush directly profited from 9/11, he probably lost alot in the long term (as a government, not as an individual) but gained alot in the short term through military contracts. if anything, the military industrial complex grew massively as a result of 9/11, nothing else. the military in america also has alot of leverage over congress from what i know, in terms of lobbying and bribes.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;36389767]I'm just saying that someone out of that list could've funded the terrorists. I wouldn't think it was all of them.[/QUOTE] is english your first language because i'm really having a hard time understanding you you're saying that you think it's possible someone other than the USA/Al Qaeda funded the terrorists? i guess that's "possible" but there's literally no evidence to indicate it so i don't see what point you're even trying to make here other than posing hypotheticals that will lead nowhere
It says something about America's ego that they have to come up with these wild, inane conspiracies just so they can deny the fact that some po-dunk, backwater assholes from the Middle East managed to catch us off guard.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36389806]is english your first language because i'm really having a hard time understanding you you're saying that you think it's possible someone other than the USA/Al Qaeda funded the terrorists? i guess that's "possible" but there's literally no evidence to indicate it so i don't see what point you're even trying to make here other than posing hypotheticals that will lead nowhere[/QUOTE] Why does it have to be the entire USA? Why can't it be someone who benefited from the war? When you're looking for suspects you look for those who somehow benefited from the situation. Simplest explanation.
[QUOTE=Lankist;36389827]It says something about America's ego that they have to come up with these wild, inane conspiracies just so they can deny the fact that some po-dunk, backwater assholes from the Middle East managed to catch us off guard.[/QUOTE] Yes thank you please ignore the sane americans in this thread arguing against it I mean it's not like anywhere else in the world has crazy, ignorant, or misinformed people LOL
[QUOTE=scout1;36389848]Yes thank you please ignore the sane americans in this thread arguing against it I mean it's not like anywhere else in the world has crazy, ignorant, or misinformed people LOL[/QUOTE] "They" refers to conspiracy theorists. When I said "us," that implies I'm American LOL Be more jingoistic please.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;36389842]Why does it have to be the entire USA? Why can't it be someone who benefited from the war? When you're looking for suspects you look for those who somehow benefited from the situation. Simplest explanation.[/QUOTE] ok well how about, instead of going through the massive list of people who have benefited from the events that unfolded after 9/11, you come up with a list of people that are actually linked with Al Qaeda and then filter it down from there. until then your point is worthless and completely hypothetical
[QUOTE=Lankist;36389859]"They" refers to conspiracy theorists. When I said "us," that implies I'm American LOL Be more jingoistic please.[/QUOTE] Ah yes I'm a jingoist because I'm arguing that America is on the same level as the rest of the world. It says something about your ego that you're generalizing any country or race in such a way.
[QUOTE=scout1;36389894]Ah yes I'm a jingoist because I'm arguing that America is on the same level as the rest of the world. It says something about your ego that you're generalizing any country or race in such a way.[/QUOTE] I'm American. I live here. I ain't generalizing shit. You're jingoistic because you automatically assume I am foreign because you don't like what I said.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36389576] 1. did it really fall at freefall speed? 2. how do you know it's not possible for it to have fallen due to internal damage? 3. how did a busy office building have demolition charges placed in it without anyone noticing? 4. if it was a controlled demolition, why can you observe the collapse of the penthouses from east to west, showing that the internal structure was collapsing shortly before the "free fall" began? 5. why are there no signs of explosion? 6. how did the charges remain operable after 7 hours of fires had their chance to burn up the wires and ruin detonators?[/QUOTE] 1. The footage that was shown and the breakdown step by step analysis of David Chandler little course of physics really shows in way that everyone can understand, that the building might have fallen in free fall speed. Now I don't know if the video is perhaps speeded up due to the recording process but then again the NIST probably had to rely on the same video to create their report. 2. It is possible for a building to collapse in several ways I am sure, but it's that it fell straight down. Just visually it seems more sane for me to believe a demolition occurred rather than a rare collapse process. 3. They must have been really sneaky! 4. I don't know. 5. There are some 'unofficial reports' of people finding explosive residue near the remains. Cannot be proven though. But there are several witness reports that have been recorded by various different reporters that have heard several explosions in a row that would suggest that there might have been a demolition. 6. No clue. Different type of explosives perhaps? Fire resistant wiring! EDIT: Your turn. My only question is, if the video that I posted is true. Then why would the NIST falsify their report? Even if it isn't true why would the free fall part of the destruction of the building be of little significance? Shouldn't all areas of this type of investigation be treated with the same amount of attention?
[QUOTE=danelo;36389913]1. The footage that was shown and the breakdown step by step analysis of David Chandler little course of physics really shows in way that everyone can understand, that the building might have fallen in free fall speed. Now I don't know if the video is perhaps speeded up due to the recording process but then again the NIST probably had to rely on the same video to create their report. [del]2. It is possible for a building to collapse in several ways I am sure, but it's that it fell straight down. Just visually it seems more sane for me to believe a demolition occurred rather than a rare collapse process. [/del] [del]3. They must have been really sneaky![/del] [del]4. I don't know.[/del] [del]5. There are some 'unofficial reports' of people finding explosive residue near the remains. Cannot be proven though. But there are several witness reports that have been recorded by various different reporters that have heard several explosions in a row that would suggest that there might have been a demolition.[/del] [del]6. No clue. Different type of explosives perhaps? Fire resistant wiring![/del][/QUOTE] so essentially all you know is that it fell at freefall speed. the rest is guesswork. and this is supposed to prove that the Bush Administration pulled off the biggest conspiracy in the history of mankind?
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