PC vs Console Debate - General

I prefer consoles for certain genres like driving games, 3rd person games and maybe some RPGs. I started out as a console gamer but then switched over to PC. Even though PC gaming is awesome, consoles have their attributes to them that gives them an edge over PC and vice-versa.

[QUOTE=Rammaster;27065546]I prefer consoles for certain genres like driving games, 3rd person games and maybe some RPGs. I started out as a console gamer but then switched over to PC. Even though PC gaming is awesome, consoles have their attributes to them that gives them an edge over PC and vice-versa.[/QUOTE] I agree that driving games are much easier with a controller. But arguing over which has the better input system sort of becomes moot since you can use controllers on the PC, and even wired 360 controllers are plug 'n play on many games.

LOL at the mikes comment to AA

I would PAY to see a show with a computer user and two console users. (PS3 + XBox)

[QUOTE=Demache;27065731]I agree that driving games are much easier with a controller. But arguing over which has the better input system sort of becomes moot since you can use controllers on the PC, and even wired 360 controllers are plug 'n play on many games.[/QUOTE] Yeah but whats really holding the PC back is the fact that some driving games are console exclusive. Really dumb but thats what really dividing gamers. I really want to see all console players and PC gamers go at it in one game. It would shut everyone up.

Guys, don't forget, consoles are AAA-Exclusive!!

[QUOTE=goldenbuttocks;27061407]I smell a ton of elitists in here. Why can't we all just stop screaming about how if we have a better gaming console our dicks are bigger, and just enjoy them all? Why can't you all just grasp the concept that they both have their differences? It's not that hard. Just enjoy them all, stop trying to get your e-peen bigger. Players on the different systems are not so different from each other. They are all people who like to play games. Seriously, with all this arguing it makes sense how people call us nerds.[/QUOTE] It all usually starts with some uninformed arrogant retard/retards saying something biased, then people get angry and "discussion" starts.

I fucking love that guy in the second video.

Off topic I know, but am I the only one wondering why there's a jar of syrup on the table?

ReviewTechUSA VS BlackBusterCritic [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydk6dwKr1go&feature=sub[/media]

[QUOTE=Deri102;27062285]What I hate about console gamers is that I haven't seen a single one (who publically presents himself/herself on-line) who is neutral. Who likes both PC and Console without being an elitist, "Oh I like Xbox so PC sucks cos you need this and that etc..." I myself am a PC and Console gamer, and I like them both equally, they both have their ups and downs, but most of the console gamers think that their opinions are OBVIOUSLY the best.. That's what I really hate. And why are the 3 people here ALL console gamers? Wouldn't it be more logical to have at least one PC user to see the different arguments instead of just having 3 console gamers sucking each other dicks and preaching the consoles?[/QUOTE] If they had any dicks.

Gaming computer that can't play Crysis on very low.

That bit where he said he had a HP gaming PC... ...I laughed, loud.

One thing I really hate about this is the guy they get to cover for them in the debate with BBC or whatever his name is, because that guy isn't the issue, that guy in the debates seems alright to me he says he owns a computer and an Xbox and that XBox 360's are more commercially viable for the average person, which from my perspective is completely true mainly because most people aren't informed that they could potentially get a PC for the same price. Still it does remain true but this isn't the problem, the problem is ignorant fucktards like in the OP's video who bash PC and don't have or play one, which is completely different from this guy who owns both consoles but prefers XBox, one is a difference of a opinion the other is being plain biased and ignorant.

[QUOTE=Matrix374;27069755]ReviewTechUSA VS BlackBusterCritic [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydk6dwKr1go&feature=sub[/media][/QUOTE] To me, BBC lost in this part. If we are basing this debate on a value of a smoother, easier gaming experience, console wins. You don't need to bother with all the system requirements. Most games will run on consoles without hassle. I hate how they spent half the time talking about Crysis with BBC insisting on talking about it, almost to the point like he was ridiculing him. He missed the point that he said you don't need to upgrade and you can play on 10 FPS while you can just get a console and get a better gaming experience. Also, people are lazy for playing on consoles? I'd rather actually PLAY the game then deal with incompatibility issues that comes with PC gaming. In the end, BBC really screwed himself over.

Yeah true Rammaster knew it was going to happen I like BBC and all but he seems to miss the point a lot of the time and it comes back to bite him in the arse. Aside from that like I said ReviewTechUSA is the wrong person to be debating with as he has completely different views from Mike in the video, so debating with him is ridicolous, like I said Mike is just plain ignorant but ReviewTechUSA just has a different opinion which everyone is entitled to because like you yourself said Rammaster Consoles have a greater ease of use regardless.

[QUOTE=MasterG;27072000]I like PCs, other people like Consoles. I always think of PCs as being kind of like home-tuned cars, whereas Consoles are like bog-standard factory assembled ones. A PC is very much tuned to you. You know how it runs, how quickly it should load stuff, if something is slightly different you can tell it straight away. It's a sort of symbiosis, just like people who own and customize their cars tend to claim (Though with less burbery and "innit mate"s) PCs are expensive to the every day user. Sure it's easy to say "oh just slip in a new GPU", but the majority of people don't know that. If your car breaks down, an enthusiast might say "Oh just replace the solenoid for £20" but the majority don't, and will take it to a repair shop and get charged more for it. TL;DR PCs are like customized cars, Consoles are like factory default ones.[/QUOTE] The car analogy, classic.

[QUOTE=Rammaster;27071818]To me, BBC lost in this part. If we are basing this debate on a value of a smoother, easier gaming experience, console wins. You don't need to bother with all the system requirements. Most games will run on consoles without hassle. I hate how they spent half the time talking about Crysis with BBC insisting on talking about it, almost to the point like he was ridiculing him. He missed the point that he said you don't need to upgrade and you can play on 10 FPS while you can just get a console and get a better gaming experience. Also, people are lazy for playing on consoles? I'd rather actually PLAY the game then deal with incompatibility issues that comes with PC gaming. In the end, BBC really screwed himself over.[/QUOTE] BBC lost? The other guy's main point is that computers are for tech-savvy nerds. You have to deal with some horrible stuff. Like what? Checking requirements? Well duhh, it's not hard, if you really have no idea about it you can always ask someone at the store or use a site like "can you run it". You can't just put the disk in a and play like on console? You have to install something first? Most of these have an option like "easy install". The game installs itself you just have to wait 5 minutes for it. My mom can install and play sims on her laptop. If she's a tech-savvy nerd I'm a rocket scientist. His second point was that you need to upgrade your pc while you don't have to upgrade the console. He said that he was playing on his release console up until a year ago. He failed to mention he had to use a 3rd party hardware to do so. Meaning he had to upgrade. Just like he'd have to upgrade a pc.

ReviewTechUSA VS BlackBusterCritic part 2 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRT4c72Aq8k&feature=sub[/media]

I had to do a debate once in an english class and it was on Console gaming versus PC gaming. Most specifically the Xbox 360 vs PC. I blew him out of the park but due to naive , narrow-minded fanboyism only a few people were able to open their eyes. Thus most of the class had opted their vote to his favor and I lost. When the teacher formulated my grade on a syllabeles She left a note saying: [i]"You should have won. And if I was a gamer I would most definitely be a PC Gamer. *generic teacher's wink/smiley bullshit* " [/i]

wow would suck so hard on the console... derp... hotkeys = useless on controller

[QUOTE=Maucer;27094270]ReviewTechUSA VS BlackBusterCritic part 2 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRT4c72Aq8k&feature=sub[/media][/QUOTE] The part where the guy says that Bioshock Infinite is being developed on the PS3 and that version is being ported to the 360 and PC is just plain wrong. They are all being developed for their respective platforms and therefore no version of the game should be a straight port.

Make a PC/360 cross-platform Call of Duty and end this debate.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;27094222]BBC lost? The other guy's main point is that computers are for tech-savvy nerds. You have to deal with some horrible stuff. Like what? Checking requirements? Well duhh, it's not hard, if you really have no idea about it you can always ask someone at the store or use a site like "can you run it". You can't just put the disk in a and play like on console? You have to install something first? Most of these have an option like "easy install". The game installs itself you just have to wait 5 minutes for it. My mom can install and play sims on her laptop. If she's a tech-savvy nerd I'm a rocket scientist. His second point was that you need to upgrade your pc while you don't have to upgrade the console. He said that he was playing on his release console up until a year ago. He failed to mention he had to use a 3rd party hardware to do so. Meaning he had to upgrade. Just like he'd have to upgrade a pc.[/QUOTE] If I was a consumer that had no tech-savvyness at all and I see these two guys debate, I would have chosen the other guy. BBC didn't defend his points well enough in my point of view. A smoother better game experience is what I'm looking for. I want peace of mind to quickly play the game as fast as I can possible. If we look at the history of technology, we humans have always striven for easier and more convenient way to do things. And consoles do just that. It may not be hard but consoles USUALLY takes away the worry of it not running on your PS3/360/Wii. And BBC by saying you don't have to upgrade and you have to deal with 15 FPS is not a good gaming experience. While the other guy did make good points on how a PS3 and 360 from '05 could run games now with relative ease without having to worry about requirements. Regarding the upgrade, if we're talking prices of upgrades for peripherals such as the mentioned flash hard drive, those cost about $30. With a PC upgrade, the prices vary from simple hard drives to costly video cards that can reach >$100. So a console upgrade is cheaper and isn't always mandatory for future games (Well until the nextgen games). So in my eyes, BBC lost. Also, the random add-ins of laughs and other comments out of the debate didn't help either and just made him look bad and arrogant. He still debated well though with legitimate points but he just didn't defend them that well to me. If he won in your eyes, then so be it.

[QUOTE=Rammaster;27094534]If I was a consumer that had no tech-savvyness at all and I see these two guys debate, I would have chosen the other guy. BBC didn't defend his points well enough in my point of view. A smoother better game experience is what I'm looking for. I want peace of mind to quickly play the game as fast as I can possible. If we look at the history of technology, we humans have always striven for easier and more convenient way to do things. And consoles do just that. It may not be hard but consoles USUALLY takes away the worry of it not running on your PS3/360/Wii. And BBC by saying you don't have to upgrade and you have to deal with 15 FPS is not a good gaming experience. While the other guy did make good points on how a PS3 and 360 from '05 could run games now with relative ease without having to worry about requirements. [/QUOTE] There are many versions of the consoles, if you try to play new games on your console from 05 I think you might run into some "incompatibilities". Also I'm not going to strip myself from the possibilities of PC (like better graphics) because it's easier. Maybe you want to sacrifice the quality and complexity of games for having less things to worry about, I don't. And yes consoles are easier, but don't demonize the PC's complexity ffs. Check requirements, install, play. It's not hard. [QUOTE=Rammaster;27094534]Regarding the upgrade, if we're talking prices of upgrades for peripherals such as the mentioned flash hard drive, those cost about $30. With a PC upgrade, the prices vary from simple hard drives to costly video cards that can reach >$100. So a console upgrade is cheaper and isn't always mandatory for future games (Well until the nextgen games). [/QUOTE] Oooh so now you do have to upgrade the consoles, it's just cheaper? Why not just say that in the first place? Why the misinformation and bias? And don't make it look like you have to upgrade your card and CPU for 100$ every year.

[QUOTE=y0haN;27094511]Make a PC/360 cross-platform Call of Duty and end this debate.[/QUOTE] I take it you never played Shadowrun? Microsoft worked with the devs on it to try and balance keyboard and mouse by giving them nerfs and then giving controller users shit like autoaim. Autoaim is in most games anyways on consoles so it wasn't anything special. Sadly this didn't work and PC players were always kicking the shit out of people using the controller. Pretty funny really how angry Xbox gamers would get. I have a few recorded videos on one of my drives of people on Xbox raging and trying to make fun of me for playing on PC. The Xbox players usually messaged me with shit like [quote] BET UR VIRGN FAG WHO SPENDS ALL TIME AND MONEY ON COMPUTER FAGGOT[/quote][quote] X360 IS BETTER NERD[/quote][quote]YOUR HACKING CAUSE YOUR ON PC[/quote]Cross platofrm between consoles is a good idea but not between consoles and PC, its not even remotely fair. [url]http://nukoda.com/news/microsoft-killed-cross-platform-gameplay-due-to-total-unbalance/[/url]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD-6TMrMlDo[/media] This been posted?

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;27095000] [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/"]View YouTUBE video[/URL] [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=wD-6TMrMlDo[/URL] This been posted?[/QUOTE] Steam Requirement listing Check PC Install game Drivers out of date? Get drivers through Steam Damn thats so complex, also I like how they talk about how PCs have all this shit but fail to mention console firmware updates and all that nonsense.

Anyone who hasn't played their PS3 in a while who decides to play a game for multiplayer knows that you can't just "play pretty much instantly." One or two system patches and then several patches for the game later and you probably can't be bothered playing any more. It's pretty horrific.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;27094755]There are many versions of the consoles, if you try to play new games on your console from 05 I think you might run into some "incompatibilities". Also I'm not going to strip myself from the possibilities of PC (like better graphics) because it's easier. Maybe you want to sacrifice the quality and complexity of games for having less things to worry about, I don't. And yes consoles are easier, but don't demonize the PC's complexity ffs. Check requirements, install, play. It's not hard.[/QUOTE] My brother's PS3 from '06 can still play games coming out today. Incompatibilities are usually rare on consoles, even though it happens. Usually they are quite easily solved such as get a new hard drive or install new firmware. But with the PC's incompatibilities, most of the problems are sometimes simple and sometimes just convoluted. Sacrificing quality and complexity of games? I didn't know having issues with installing or performance was part of "playing" a game. The point I'm trying to get is that consoles are usually more reliable in just actually playing that game. I'm not demonizing the PC's complexity. But most people (as seen with the rapid rise of consoles) just prefer to game on consoles for its ease of use and accessibility. Because isn't it just boils down to actually playing the game? If you want to take it a step further then PC gaming is your choice but for most people they just want to get the gaming experience they want. [QUOTE=Silly Sil;27094755]Oooh so now you do have to upgrade the consoles, it's just cheaper? Why not just say that in the first place? Why the misinformation and bias? And don't make it look like you have to upgrade your card and CPU for 100$ every year.[/QUOTE] You don't have to upgrade. The only thing you really need to upgrade on a console is the hard drive. Unless your console breaks down, then that's the only thing you need to upgrade. In a PC, from 05-Present, you would have to had upgraded at least your graphics card to actually play games with a decent framerate. Compare that to a PS3 from 06, which can play any game today without the need of an upgrade. I am still a PC gamer but disregarding the consoles as inferior in every aspect is just dumb. Both have strengths and weaknesses.