[QUOTE=Lobstuzz;52149162]I think only the people who have a problem with the political aspect of the show are going to hate it so much to call it a failure. My friends and I are really enjoying it, but we like Bill's cringe-y "ITS SCIENCE, COOL!" way of performing.[/QUOTE]
I mean it is entertaining, but it ain't changing people's minds with how antagonistic it comes off as.
And just being shit all around with the skits and opinions.
So now science is over what will we replace it with
[QUOTE=burgerdemon;52149210]So now science is over what will we replace it with[/QUOTE]
memes
"whats your temperature right now?"
"12 pepes."
"rare, common, or legendary?"
"like 6 publix pepes and 6 original pepes."
it'll be a learning process but we'll have to make due
Looking at the lyrics to that sex-junk song again, holy shit, is it outright stating that sexuality is a choice?
What a great way to make strides for the LGBT community, by stating that queer individuals CHOOSE to be that way and that they're basically just hyper-sexual fetishists who own scores of sex toys and who will fuck anyone or anything.
That sure doesn't confirm the assumptions of every old homophobe to ever exist, no sir no way.
What an ass-backwards approach towards... well, [i]everything[/i], I seriously can't believe they greenlit this as is.
I'm a pretty liberal guy and I don't have any issue with people doin their own thing sexually and what not, and I haven't seen the show, but these clips seem completely counter productive. I've already seen meme's on FB from people making fun of/discounting Bill Nye's work because of how pandery this show is. In one fowl swoop the show tarnishes any previous work Bill has done because now people who disagree can disregard the actual truths and point to this as why Bill's claims are unreliable. I hope if there is a season 2, that they learn from their mistakes and move on.
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
Science isn't about antagonizing the opposition. It's about informing them.
How about just making a show about fucking science.
[QUOTE=Lobstuzz;52149162]I think only the people who have a problem with the political aspect of the show are going to hate it so much to call it a failure. My friends and I are really enjoying it, but we like Bill's cringe-y "ITS SCIENCE, COOL!" way of performing.[/QUOTE]
I would agree with you, but Bill is so infrequently on screen for the most part that it's just not worth watching really.
Which really, really sucks because I loved Bill Nye the Science Guy and a lot of the other stuff he's done since
[QUOTE=shian;52149450]How about just making a show about fucking science.[/QUOTE]
Because Bill knows that science doesn't make him mad cash and make his irrelevant name relevant again.
[QUOTE=OvB;52149331]I'm a pretty liberal guy and I don't have any issue with people doin their own thing sexually and what not, and I haven't seen the show, but these clips seem completely counter productive. I've already seen meme's on FB from people making fun of/discounting Bill Nye's work because of how pandery this show is. In one fowl swoop the show tarnishes any previous work Bill has done because now people who disagree can disregard the actual truths and point to this as why Bill's claims are unreliable. I hope if there is a season 2, that they learn from their mistakes and move on.
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
Science isn't about antagonizing the opposition. It's about informing them.[/QUOTE]
I became very skeptical of everything Tyson said on the Cosmos remake once he started completely fucking up history and including cringey atheist circlejerk segments feat. Seth MacFarlane.
This can only be bad for Bill Nye.
[QUOTE=Tudd;52149000]He didn't even argue that it was "too expensive." He just flat out said "People don't want that" on the episode. Begins around 17:55 on the first episode for reference.
Besides Nuclear Power has the benefit of being cheap in comparison to R&D technologies when you start talking about efficiency of generating power relative to cost and area needed.[/QUOTE]
I feel like whenever nuclear reactors are brought up special mention should be made of [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium_fuel_cycle"]thorium[/URL]. It still produces energy but its waste is less toxic than that of a standard nuclear reactor using uranium. In a few hundred years thorium is less toxic than the uranium ore extracted from the ground. And (as far as I'm aware) thorium can't be weaponized so you could build thorium reactors everywhere. The wiki page I link to notes that in a solid fueled reactor that uranium or plutonium would still be needed to get the reaction going but look towards the bottom and you'll find this:
[QUOTE]Though thorium-based fuels produce far less long-lived transuranics than uranium-based fuels, some long-lived actinide products constitute a long-term radiological impact, especially 231
Pa
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Advocates for liquid core and molten salt reactors such as LFTRs claim that these technologies negate thorium's disadvantages present in solid fueled reactors. As only two liquid-core fluoride salt reactors have been built (the ORNL ARE and MSRE) and neither have used thorium, it is hard to validate the exact benefits.[/QUOTE]
Imagine a reactor that produces energy, with little to no waste that lasts for thousands of years, and can be built in any country because its fuel is of no discernible threat.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;52149521]I became very skeptical of everything Tyson said on the Cosmos remake once he started completely fucking up history and including cringey atheist circlejerk segments feat. Seth MacFarlane.[/QUOTE]
Don't get me started on that hack's "must read book" list, which shows the fat prick didn't even read them.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;52149521]I became very skeptical of everything Tyson said on the Cosmos remake once he started completely fucking up history and including cringey atheist circlejerk segments feat. Seth MacFarlane.
This can only be bad for Bill Nye.[/QUOTE]
I don't think I watched all of Tyson's Cosmos. I just want good old fashion informative science commentary like Sagan's Cosmos or a good BBC docu. None of this how do you do fellow Millennial bullshit.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;52149224]memes
"whats your temperature right now?"
"12 pepes."
"rare, common, or legendary?"
"like 6 publix pepes and 6 original pepes."
it'll be a learning process but we'll have to make due[/QUOTE]
Memes are a part of science studies though
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;52148450]the reports done by the celebrities are some of the best parts of the show (that editorial on italy was great,) so pretty much everything that doesn't include bill. the rest of it is a rushed hodgepodge of ideas and an incredible bias that isn't even remotely scientific and doesn't use proper scientific foundations like the show promises. the closest bill ever gets to explaining something with science was the explanation of how heat makes liquids expand, which is an uncommon (in my experiences anyways) scientific explanation of climate change.
this sucks cause it has the potential to be good and it just isn't good at all.[/QUOTE]
The most significant (at least short term) contribution to rising oceans is thermal expansion, irrc - that fact kinda got lost in all the talk about the arctic.
Edit:
And honestly, I get that you americans grew up with the guy, but I've honestly never liked him.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;52149647]The most significant (at least short term) contribution to rising oceans is thermal expansion, irrc - that fact kinda got lost in all the talk about the arctic.[/QUOTE]
It's easy to forget that things expand when they warm up. Thermal expansion accounts for about half of sea level rise over the last century.
[url]http://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/sea-level-rise/[/url]
I watched [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0560049/] bicycle man episode from Different Strokes[/url] late last night and my mind was twist and turning over the idea that these people who put up this social justice front are perhaps child molesters using things of using that child molesters might do.
I might of been having a fever dream, but gary coleman's character eating ice cream and watching cartoon porn of mice made my head go places.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;52149537]I feel like whenever nuclear reactors are brought up special mention should be made of [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium_fuel_cycle"]thorium[/URL]. It still produces energy but its waste is less toxic than that of a standard nuclear reactor using uranium. In a few hundred years thorium is less toxic than the uranium ore extracted from the ground. And (as far as I'm aware) thorium can't be weaponized so you could build thorium reactors everywhere. The wiki page I link to notes that in a solid fueled reactor that uranium or plutonium would still be needed to get the reaction going but look towards the bottom and you'll find this:
Imagine a reactor that produces energy, with little to no waste that lasts for thousands of years, and can be built in any country because its fuel is of no discernible threat.[/QUOTE]
Preaching to the choir with me.
The sad part is that the expert they got on Bill Nye's show specifically wrote on Thorium reactors.
But they never got into that or asked much from him. :v:
wow this looks lame. good thing Dear White People is coming out on friday
Absolutely disgusting.
This hurts me
Man I feel sad now.
It's not the message I disagree with, it's the fucking pandering which is horrific. The bit with the Asian guy talking about westerners using Asian culture as magic to sell snake oil is very, very valid. My own mother believes ridiculous things because some white middle class American on youtube uses words like chakra, and I can totally see how it belittles the Asian cultures that it rips off, but the guy delivering the thing is just flat out pandering to what they think young people want to hear. He could easily deliver the same message, make it more entertaining, and engage with a wider crowd if they didn't have a thinktank of executives saying "Mmmm I dunno, maybe add in more white people jokes".
Christ I didn't even watch Bill Nye as a kid and I'm annoyed.
Also Anthony Fantano has been commenting on the video of that fucking song lmao
That whole "white people need to stop appropriating Asian stuff" thing really gets under my skin too because it ONLY focuses on white people.
Like, I get it, turning aspects of a foreign culture into a fashion accessory is a shitty thing to do, but one, that's not a scientific issue, and two, western honkeys aren't the only people on the planet who do that kinda shit.
Hell, the creators of Neon Genesis Evangelion explained that they incorporated a lot of Christian iconography because "it looked cool". No one on the staff was Christian, no one studied it, they literally just said "that's different from what we have, neat" and tossed it in there.
[i]And no one cares.[/i] But if a white person sees something from an [i]Eastern[/i] culture and says "that's neat, I wanna incorporate that motif in my stuff", suddenly it's appropriation (and that's TERRIBLE).
It just seems like a really blatant way to go about casually demonizing an entire race of people, yet no one in the mainstream seems to take any issue with it. I know the slippery slope is a classic fallacy, but it's still a really disquieting trend.
EDIT: Just to clarify, it is a VALID issue, but some consistency would be nice.
[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;52150185]That whole "white people need to stop appropriating Asian stuff" thing really gets under my skin too because it ONLY focuses on white people.
Like, I get it, turning aspects of a foreign culture into a fashion accessory is a shitty thing to do, but one, that's not a scientific issue, and two, western honkeys aren't the only people on the planet who do that kinda shit.
Hell, the creators of Neon Genesis Evangelion explained that they incorporated a lot of Christian iconography because "it looked cool". No one on the staff was Christian, no one studied it, they literally just said "that's different from what we have, neat" and tossed it in there.
[i]And no one cares.[/i] But if a white person sees something from an [i]Eastern[/i] culture and says "that's neat, I wanna incorporate that motif in my stuff", suddenly it's appropriation (and that's TERRIBLE).
It just seems like a really blatant way to go about casually demonizing an entire race of people, yet no one in the mainstream seems to take any issue with it. I know the slippery slope is a classic fallacy, but it's still a really disquieting trend.
EDIT: Just to clarify, it is a VALID issue, but some consistency would be nice.[/QUOTE]
Personally this whole thing just confuses me to no end. Half the time I'm told to speak up and the other half I'm told to shut up cause of my privelege. I was born in Eastern Europe so my skin is olive so it seems I get away blending in with quite a few groups. When my 'white privelege' gets brought up I can't help but think of this video:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tEiguYmgxA[/media]
Like, I'm sorry okay, my ancestors were cowering mountain people, but it seems I'm still to blame for half of society's problems.
I know the market is small for it, but I wish Bill would do an informative science show on advanced topics. Something appropriate for 20+ year olds.
Like imagine a modern Bill Nye except instead of explaining basic physics instead discusses topics in Quantum physics. Like amp it up an age group, exchange basic High School concepts and tackle Year 1 University/College concepts.
As supplementary study material this wouldn't be of any use to me anymore, but actual videos in these fields generally suck and are produced by textbook companies.
Since the show I want doesn't exist I subscribe to SciShow, the Seeker, and PBS Space time to fill the gap.
[QUOTE=Karmah;52150481]I know the market is small for it, but I wish Bill would do an informative science show on advanced topics. Something appropriate for 20+ year olds. [/quote]
What if I told you that was the proposed premise of this show. :v:
bill nye's show feels like something made for children but the target demographic are the young adults who (presumably) watched his show as children
this goes a long way towards explaining why it's so terrible
[QUOTE=Lobstuzz;52149093]
Well, he's right. Nobody wants Nuclear power. He was raising the issue because it is a real issue.[/QUOTE]
What exactly is wrong with nuclear power?
[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;52150185]That whole "white people need to stop appropriating Asian stuff" thing really gets under my skin too because it ONLY focuses on white people.
Like, I get it, turning aspects of a foreign culture into a fashion accessory is a shitty thing to do, but one, that's not a scientific issue, and two, western honkeys aren't the only people on the planet who do that kinda shit.
Hell, the creators of Neon Genesis Evangelion explained that they incorporated a lot of Christian iconography because "it looked cool". No one on the staff was Christian, no one studied it, they literally just said "that's different from what we have, neat" and tossed it in there.
[i]And no one cares.[/i] But if a white person sees something from an [i]Eastern[/i] culture and says "that's neat, I wanna incorporate that motif in my stuff", suddenly it's appropriation (and that's TERRIBLE).
It just seems like a really blatant way to go about casually demonizing an entire race of people, yet no one in the mainstream seems to take any issue with it. I know the slippery slope is a classic fallacy, but it's still a really disquieting trend.
EDIT: Just to clarify, it is a VALID issue, but some consistency would be nice.[/QUOTE]
It's because "cultural appropriation" has been misused by some who heard it in their Anthropology classes. It's a basic concept of culture, that they're fluid and change over time - in response to either new cultures or ideas/technologies/whatever. Part of that is the spooky ~cultural appropriation~, in which one culture takes stuff from another (or inherits/is given it from another). It's not good, and it's not bad. It's just a descriptor of a basic function of how cultures operate, it's not an issue and any attempt to actually stifle it tbh is extremely misguided.
Just because popular opinion is against a technology, doesn't mean the technology is bunked.
That is one of the least scientific measures you could use on a technology....
[QUOTE=Lobstuzz;52149093]
Well, he's right. Nobody wants Nuclear power. He was raising the issue because it is a real issue.[/QUOTE]
The seventh seal is broken, the dread demon Sn'wm'w returns to our realm to reak vengeance once more.
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