Dangers of Using Electronics in Bathroom, the Case of the Teenage Girl (ElectroBoom) - General

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;52490023]as if stepping on any other plug would be less discomfortable[/QUOTE] well literally every other plug doesn't have a huge plastic housing on it that makes it sit flat with the prongs up on the ground

[QUOTE=hexpunK;52488909]I have genuinely never understood why most of the world has such...simplistic? plugs. The UK plug standard is an incredibly safe thing, three prongs for live, neutral and earth, plastic mouldings around the base of the prongs (as suggested at the end of the video), and a housing designed to afford some grip without needing to pry between the plug and socket. [editline]20th July 2017[/editline] Oh yeah, plus inline fuses to break the circuit without tripping the entire fuse box.[/QUOTE] 1 - We are one of your colonies, so let us do our own thing. :P 2 - I take as much faith in a fused plug as much as I trust the circuit breaker in a power bar, at is it's not going to help much. 3 - UK plugs have seen at least two revisions in the last 100 years. We have only ever updated it once: The polarization of one side of the plug. Fun fact: Technically you install wallmount North American outlets with the ground plug upwards so that falling objects cannot as easily short across the line. This code is rarely enforced however but an instance where this is recommended is on the warning sticker for my 70's Amana microwave and suggested an electrician be called to correct the orientation before plugging the unit in. I swear this video (or a similar one) has been brought up here before and it came down to Europeans and North Americans cockwaving whose plugs and sockets were superior.

This was an informative video but why the fuck does the guy keep intentionally shocking himself. Is this some kind of running gag?

[QUOTE=Mr Kotov;52490312]This was an informative video but why the fuck does the guy keep intentionally shocking himself. Is this some kind of running gag?[/QUOTE] That's pretty much the entire shtick of his channel, educating people about electricity while "accidentally" blowing shit up and shocking himself in the process. Obviously it's all planned and done on purpose. [editline]21st July 2017[/editline] One of my favorites: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YBwDNfOaxU[/media]

Uhh, so to be clear here, for apparently even the American users, this isn't a thing if your home is remotely modern. Plugs would be grounded and, more importantly, GFCI. American plugs are fine if you aren't an absolute moron.

I have a policy not to connect anything to mains power if it's from China :science101: Really though, people seem to be too careless with electronics in general. It seems that many forgot how dangerous they can be when damaged or improperly made because they're so convenient now. Apparently you can shock yourself to death with a resistance meter if the contacts somehow get past your skin (anecdote from science class in school). Phones/many newer portables in theory easily have enough energy to kill or severely injure you, too.

[QUOTE=Mr Kotov;52490312]This was an informative video but why the fuck does the guy keep intentionally shocking himself. Is this some kind of running gag?[/QUOTE] Shock tutorials to make sure people don't make mistakes if they try similar things.

[QUOTE=Mitsuma;52490108]There is a nice potential death trap for UK plugs though. You have to make sure that the earth pin does not have any of the protective plastic around it like it has on the live and neutral. It has to be completely bare otherwise it can loose the connection to earth in the socket once its put in completely. Not exactly a thing about the plug/socket and its actually against regulations, some people might not know that though when they buy cheap stuff from like aliexpress or wherever.[/QUOTE] I've seen a few plugs where the earth is just a plastic prong, and every time it makes me wince a bit knowing that it's not actually earthed. It's only ever on super cheap knock off goods thankfully (standardised plugs are super cheap it turns out!), but it's still a cause for concern. Interestingly, things like shavers and the likes still use the two prong plugs largely over here. I have a two prong socket in my bathroom (with variable voltage of 115/230), but that's the only place I have seen a two prong that wasn't a botched electrical job.

[QUOTE=GunFox;52490453]Uhh, so to be clear here, for apparently even the American users, this isn't a thing if your home is remotely modern. Plugs would be grounded and, more importantly, GFCI. American plugs are fine if you aren't an absolute moron.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, forgot about that, good point. In fact in Japan the entire house is protected by one big GFCI breaker.

[QUOTE=mark6789;52490120]Those are pretty cool and the US has started a new standard that all plugs are temper resistance so accidents wont happen as much[/QUOTE] Which is great, but no real progress will be made until home owners are required by law to modernize the electrical in their homes before selling. Hell, I wont risk getting a new computer because the receptacles in this house aren't even grounded. It's pathetic.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;52490488]I've seen a few plugs where the earth is just a plastic prong, and every time it makes me wince a bit knowing that it's not actually earthed. It's only ever on super cheap knock off goods thankfully (standardised plugs are super cheap it turns out!), but it's still a cause for concern.[/QUOTE] as long as it's something that doesn't actually [I]need[/I] to be grounded, there's no problem having a plastic ground pin worth remembering that just having a metal ground pin doesn't guarantee the device is grounded - the plug that came on my BUSH clock/radio, for example, has a solid brass ground pin that's not connected to anything because it doesn't need to be.

[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;52488459]5:50 Jesus Christ. I had heard of American plugs that did that, but assumed it was some level of exaggeration. Are all American plugs like that? or did he just get a particularly bad one?[/QUOTE] All plugs are like this and you know, no one ever taught me this. It was just something I figured out on my own like "oh, shit, if I touched that couldn't I die?" I feel like somebody should point that out to a kid

a few people posting in this thread saying they were never aware of it being dangerous to touch the metal prongs if it's inserted in a plug surprise me a little bit. even when I was a dumb kid, my brain could put 2 + 2 together: "if I'm putting this plug into a switched on wall socket, I gotta be careful not to trap my fingers because there will be electricity running through the metal bits"

[QUOTE=hexpunK;52488909]I have genuinely never understood why most of the world has such...simplistic? plugs. The UK plug standard is an incredibly safe thing, three prongs for live, neutral and earth, plastic mouldings around the base of the prongs (as suggested at the end of the video), and a housing designed to afford some grip without needing to pry between the plug and socket. [editline]20th July 2017[/editline] Oh yeah, plus inline fuses to break the circuit without tripping the entire fuse box.[/QUOTE] Europlug best plug or bust.

[QUOTE=CruelAddict;52491831]Europlug best plug or bust.[/QUOTE] Those aren't grounded though, so they only work for Class II appliances. I do like the inset sockets, since it's almost impossible to dangerously cheap out on plug prong insulation that way. [editline]21st July 2017[/editline] Which country had the happy sockets, again? [editline]edit[/editline] [URL="http://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plugs-and-sockets/k/"]Denmark and Greenland[/URL][URL="https://archive.is/Vi3Sz"].[/URL] [editline]21st July 2017[/editline] [URL="http://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plugs-and-sockets/"]Type N looks like the most convenient one[/URL] (assuming the socket is inset deeply enough)[URL="https://archive.is/fyPXJ"].[/URL] Type E and F aren't bad either, but they often take up way too much space.

[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;52491244]as long as it's something that doesn't actually [I]need[/I] to be grounded, there's no problem having a plastic ground pin worth remembering that just having a metal ground pin doesn't guarantee the device is grounded - the plug that came on my BUSH clock/radio, for example, has a solid brass ground pin that's not connected to anything because it doesn't need to be.[/QUOTE] That is a good point actually. I just assume if they went through the effort of paying for the extra pin (all fractions of a penny of it), they would have wired it up to something. But if there's nothing exposed to the user that needs grounding I suppose that makes sense.

can't we all just agree to migrate to PowerCon where you definitely can't touch the contacts & works >20A.