[QUOTE=General J;49405892]I can't take him seriously anymore if he's seriously implying Dirty Bomb was the third best game of the year.
It's a CoD clone with F2P moneygrubbing mechanics.[/QUOTE]
Uhh, he explicitly states MULTIPLE TIMES in the video that this is a list of games[B] he [/B]had the most fun with in 2015.
Did you even watch the video?
[QUOTE=Melnek;49405994]i don't get the consistent praise for undertale
it was really boring and unfunny to me, and yeah i got that it was supposed to be super meta and clever but it really wasn't. it played like a bad rpg game from the 90s and the storyline was pretty shit, how it recognized any possible choice you could have made is pretty cool but it has no saving grace besides that.
literally every critic praises it as if it's the pinnacle of pc gaming while it's average at best, and i get that it's unique and all, but that alone doesn't make the game good by any measure[/QUOTE]
For me it's the same reason as TB, the idea of a game finally getting story telling in an interactive medium right. I mean it pisses me off so much when a game is basically just gameplay sections and cutscenes, when mechanics and narrative are oil and fucking water. Undertale manages to subvert the oil and water trap, and it has some great comedy, style and a touching tale. That's all.
[QUOTE=thegrb93;49407405]You know, he explains why in the video.[/QUOTE]
He specifically doesn't like it when people just post the list, because people read it, ask "wtf why X or Y" when he says so in the video.
Then again, people might not have time for 50 minutes of things.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;49407866]For me it's the same reason as TB, the idea of a game finally getting story telling in an interactive medium right. I mean it pisses me off so much when a game is basically just gameplay sections and cutscenes, when mechanics and narrative are oil and fucking water. Undertale manages to subvert the oil and water trap, and it has some great comedy, style and a touching tale. That's all.[/QUOTE]
I have the same view. It's well executed, it could have been a bland award-bait walking sim, but it turned out completely different.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;49406232]Its a meme now?
Know what is a meme? Calling every fucking thing a meme.[/QUOTE]
Ok it's not a meme it's a thing. Doesn't change how shit it is and it's not even because of the saying it's because it's always used in a vague context "being a dick" is incredibly subjective.
And so what if you're being a dick about it as long as you're coherent and stray away from ad hominem, criticism is criticism.
[QUOTE=Skyward;49406055]I don't think he's saying he was.
Dweeb.[/QUOTE]
Then why did he say it at all? pretty sure it was "You said you didn't like a game I like you dweeb!!" (who uses dweeb in a sentence by the way).
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[QUOTE=LegndNikko;49406316]And I don't get the consistent criticism.
It's a quirky game with interesting characters that played like a charming RPG (think Earthbound), but with little quirks in the gameplay that can only be done because its a modern game. The music is varied but fitting, and the story was predictable to a point, but still very enjoyable. Etc, etc.
People love it, people are eh about it. Obviously TB and myself are of those who love it. Undertale [I]totally[/I] has more hype than its worth. Every thing that reaches Undertale's hype has more than its worth. No game is worth its hype, not even Half-Life, Ocarina of Time, or whatever you may think they best video game is. But games reach that hype for good reasons. They deserve the praise they've got for doing enough things right.[/QUOTE]
Just because a bunch of people like it doesn't make his opinion less valid. It's a over hyped (not bad) game that's not for everyone.
And as I'm sure other people in this thread have mentioned the fan-base is shithouse and sours the overall experience.
[QUOTE=Slim Charles;49408015]Then why did he say it at all? pretty sure it was "You said you didn't like a game I like you dick!!".[/QUOTE]
It seemed to me like it was a "it's cool if people don't like it, it's just when people are dicks about it that it's uncalled for". A statement, not an accusation. And if that's what he means, he's not wrong. Different strokes, different folks. No need to put people down for liking what they like.
But hey, I'm not him so what do I know. Maybe he was being a dick. I prefer to assume the better of people.
With Undertale, it's something of a special game for me personally because pretty much everything clicked with me - all the characters, all the actions you can do, the levels, everything was great, soundtrack is fucking incredible and it is definitely more than half of the reason I enjoyed it(and whenever I hear it I remember those fights!), [I]except[/I] for one thing. I agree with TB on every thing about Undertale, and I liked it when I was playing it, but the bullet-hell mechanic didn't click with me and because of that I didn't enjoy the game as much as he did for instance, but I'm really glad to see that the game is actually on top of the list because it's a great game and it's obvious that there was a lot of love put into it. It's even better to see it at top after he kept saying two or three podcasts in a row how he still haven't got to playing it while Dodger was talking about to everyone on podcast(not spoilering it, of course).
Oh wow, an argument related to undertale on a video praising undertale.
And birds can fly now it seems.
[QUOTE=Skyward;49408065]It seemed to me like it was a "it's cool if people don't like it, it's just when people are dicks about it that it's uncalled for". A statement, not an accusation. And if that's what he means, he's not wrong. Different strokes, different folks. No need to put people down for liking what they like.
But hey, I'm not him so what do I know. Maybe he was being a dick. I prefer to assume the better of people.[/QUOTE]
Gotta ward off all those hypothetical people!
[QUOTE=Slim Charles;49408112]Gotta ward off all those hypothetical people![/QUOTE]
Let's not act like Undertale conversation doesn't usually bring in a bunch of assholes that talk down to people that like it. It happens a lot.
Just let it go man. Whether he meant it antagonistically or not, it doesn't really matter, does it? Not worth getting upset over. No one really gave him shit for disliking it, and he didn't give anyone shit for liking it. What's the issue here? Opinions were shared, and nobody made a fuss until you decided he might have been maybe possibly potentially being rude.
Yes because I'm disagreeing with what you said that automatically means I'm upset.
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[QUOTE=Skyward;49408118]Just let it go man. Whether he meant it antagonistically or not, it doesn't really matter, does it? Not worth getting upset over. No one really gave him shit for disliking it, and he didn't give anyone shit for liking it. What's the issue here? Opinions were shared, and nobody made a fuss until you decided he might have been maybe possibly potentially being rude.[/QUOTE]
I never said he was being rude I just said I disagreed with his sentiment and don't see the validity in it even if he was responding to the other guy or hypothetical people. I'm not "not letting go" "kicking up a fuss" "causing waves", I wasn't going to say anything else until I got told that I was causing a fuss and to fuck off.
[QUOTE=Slim Charles;49408144]Yes because I'm disagreeing with what you said that automatically means I'm upset.
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Coz we all know that's how emotions work![/QUOTE]
Oh fuck off now you are just trying to make waves.
What I'm not trying to do anything I said I'm not upset in a sarcastic manner and you tell me to fuck off and that I'm trying to cause a stir?
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Like what is actually with you people when anyone comes into a conversation with a opposing opinion they're trying to cause a "fuss" or "create waves" or is upset, a dick or a dweeb?
[QUOTE=Rossy167;49407866]For me it's the same reason as TB, the idea of a game finally getting story telling in an interactive medium right. I mean it pisses me off so much when a game is basically just gameplay sections and cutscenes, when mechanics and narrative are oil and fucking water. Undertale manages to subvert the oil and water trap, and it has some great comedy, style and a touching tale. That's all.[/QUOTE]
I agree that storytelling in games has not reached its peak yet, but there's a reason most story-driven games rely on cutscenes. It's simply the most straightforward way for telling a story, it's also similar to movies - therefore you can apply many concepts that we've learned through the decades on film making and story telling.
Not to mention that Undertale starts with a cutscene to explain the base story!
i think r6 siege deserves to be in there
fun game and addicting with interesting mechanics even though its plagued with problems
Oh god nobody's happy everytime when there's a top 10 list
[QUOTE=sa2fan;49408301]i think r6 siege deserves to be in there
fun game and addicting with interesting mechanics even though its plagued with problems[/QUOTE]
In his Arbitrary Awards. R6 Siege was a runner up for "The Game that most surpassed my expectations"
[QUOTE=sa2fan;49408301]i think r6 siege deserves to be in there
fun game and addicting with interesting mechanics even though its plagued with problems[/QUOTE]
My problem with Siege isn't what it is, it's what it isn't. Siege isn't the eSport to rival CSGO that I wanted it to be. It has pretty shallow shooting mechanics, and is too cluttered and messy (mechanically and visually) to be a high end competitive shooter.
That being said, for what it is, Siege is a hell of a lot of fun.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;49408445]My problem with Siege isn't what it is, it's what it isn't. Siege isn't the eSport to rival CSGO that I wanted it to be. It has pretty shallow shooting mechanics, and is too cluttered and messy (mechanically and visually) to be a high end competitive shooter.
That being said, for what it is, Siege is a hell of a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]
well, im starting to see siege appear in e-sports tournaments and stuff
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not like ubi ever said they wanted to compete with cs
[QUOTE=sa2fan;49408482]well, im starting to see siege appear in e-sports tournaments and stuff
[editline]28th December 2015[/editline]
not like ubi ever said they wanted to compete with cs[/QUOTE]
My main barrier to buying Siege is that I keep hearing that the netcode is awful, particularly about low tickrate servers, leading to constant bullshit deaths and things like that.
Yeah Undertale really is something special. Pretty much a hit for me across the board. It's a shame some people are getting so offended by its sudden and meteoric rise from obscurity that they straight up refuse to ever even try it, giving such hilarious reasons as "tumblr likes it!!!" or "I hate hearing everyone talk about it!!" but honestly, who cares it's their loss lmao. That and the fact it's not like it isn't getting the recognition it deserves anyways. ofc I'm not gonna say it's THE GREATEST GAME EVER ([url=http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/bge20_vote]unless it's to piss off gamefaqs again![/url]) since it's definitely not a game for everyone, but I will say it's probably the one I've enjoyed the most, thus far.
tl;dr: :dog:
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;49408543]My main barrier to buying Siege is that I keep hearing that the netcode is awful, particularly about low tickrate servers, leading to constant bullshit deaths and things like that.[/QUOTE]
they said the servers run at a tick rate of 64, its better after the patch now tho
[QUOTE=sa2fan;49408482]well, im starting to see siege appear in e-sports tournaments and stuff
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not like ubi ever said they wanted to compete with cs[/QUOTE]
Siege was certainly built up by the gaming community to be a competitive FPS, with Ubisoft emphasizing teamplay and communication then announcing there would be no paid DLC maps the hints of eSports were there but hidden between the lines. It'd be great if we did get more FPS eSports because somebody needs to get up there and compete for our attentions with CSGO, but Siege is not going to be that game.
[QUOTE=postal;49408565]Yeah Undertale really is something special. Pretty much a hit for me across the board. It's a shame some people are getting so offended by its sudden and meteoric rise from obscurity that they straight up refuse to ever even try it, giving such hilarious reasons as "tumblr likes it!!!" or "I hate hearing everyone talk about it!!" but honestly, who cares it's their loss lmao. That and the fact it's not like it isn't getting the recognition it deserves anyways. ofc I'm not gonna say it's THE GREATEST GAME EVER ([url=http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/bge20_vote]unless it's to piss off gamefaqs again![/url]) since it's definitely not a game for everyone, but I will say it's probably the one I've enjoyed the most, thus far.
tl;dr: :dog:[/QUOTE]
"it's the meme game of the year" is one I personally hear a lot of
Eh undertale is ok. I just feel it's shallow. Sure it's funny and it has characters in it, but I still think it's overrated a bit. It seems kind of pandering to me.
If you want to get real obscure and shit check out the 3 games by love-de-lic studios, not sure if that english translation is out for 2 of them yet. The one for the dreamcast is great though. It also explores themes of love and stuff like undertale does. (Undertales kinda about that right i didnt watch the whole way through)
They are all kind of artsy games that have weird gameplay and funny characters and dialogue but from all the information I can gather its potentially the same kind of conceptual basis as Undertale except done better and by a bigger artistic team. I have a feeling the guy who made undertale is directly inspired by those games. I think some of the guys who made those games were also apart of the team that made Chrono Trigger.
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[QUOTE=One Ear Ninja;49408776]"it's the meme game of the year" is one I personally hear a lot of[/QUOTE]
If you take 4chan shitposting seriously then shame on you. It's just a bunch of nerds shitflinging at each other cuz they are bored.
On one hand you have undertale fans that know they can annoy the other group of people who dont like it, and on the other hand you have the people who don't like it shitposting about it to trigger the undertale fans.
[QUOTE=sa2fan;49408482]well, im starting to see siege appear in e-sports tournaments and stuff
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not like ubi ever said they wanted to compete with cs[/QUOTE]
Competitive or not RS is competing for the CSGO player base and it's very much playing second fiddle to that. I thought it was great fun but i haven't bought it because i will still play csgo more, and to be blunt £50 for a backup multiplayer game is more than I'm willing to spend.
As such i can foresee a future where the player base dies, i hope that's not the case because I want to buy it, when it's cheaper.
[QUOTE=RocketRacer;49408098]With Undertale, it's something of a special game for me personally because pretty much everything clicked with me - all the characters, all the actions you can do, the levels, everything was great, soundtrack is fucking incredible and it is definitely more than half of the reason I enjoyed it(and whenever I hear it I remember those fights!), [I]except[/I] for one thing. I agree with TB on every thing about Undertale, and I liked it when I was playing it, but the bullet-hell mechanic didn't click with me and because of that I didn't enjoy the game as much as he did for instance, but I'm really glad to see that the game is actually on top of the list because it's a great game and it's obvious that there was a lot of love put into it. It's even better to see it at top after he kept saying two or three podcasts in a row how he still haven't got to playing it while Dodger was talking about to everyone on podcast(not spoilering it, of course).[/QUOTE]I don't like bullet hell games. Actually hate them with an intense passion really. But I liked how Undertale did it because every fight was unique and required a different approach, and by and large it wasn't pixel perfection between being hit or being safe, and a hit wasn't just game over. However, it does mean it can still be quite difficult and if your reactions aren't good, you'll likely not make it. Which unfortunately means I can't recommend the game to everyone like I want to. I mean, I'd love to get it for my parents and have even them play it, but they're both pushing 50 and don't have twitch reactions, so they likely wouldn't be able to get too far.
Undertale seriously impressed me in ways I don't know how to describe. I had heard a lot of good things about it and everyone told me I should play it, but it didn't really interest me initially, but a great friend got it for me on Thursday and so I played through it and just fell in love with it. I think an interesting way to show it is that I loved it so much, I don't want to see it again. I don't want an Undertale 2, or More Undertales, or anything like that. It did everything right in one take, all the characters were wrapped up so well, everything ended exactly as it should. As much as I want to see more of all the characters and their world, it needs to stand on its own.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';49408818]If you take 4chan shitposting seriously then shame on you. [/QUOTE]
Nah there really are people that sincerely spout all that shit. It's great. Gamefaq's totally exploded with kids spouting "TUMBLR GAME" or "MEME GAME" or "SJW GAME" when their Best Game Ever contest got wrecked. It was actually kinda funny watching people take various groups they hated, and then try to find a way to tie it to undertale and then label the game as such lol.
I'm not in anyway opposed to undertale, but i'm just so not into it that I can't seem to say "yeah I should play that", I just always think "I have some other games to play still I'd rather do that first".
I don't understand the problem some people have with it, nor do I entirely understand the love for it, but I'm glad something like it exists for people.
Was REALLY surprised to see him enjoy Mad Max as much as he did. That game is brilliant but ghostly empty in it's own ways, while still having some of the most in depth locations you'll ever see, even though the game offers you almost no reason to go to some of them, if not most of them. Some really great gems of level design are tucked away in that game.
I personally like Undertale mostly because of the characters and how memorable they are.
I'll definitely not forget about Papyrus and Sans anytime soon.
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