Cop Yanks Suicidal Man Off Metro Tracks at Last Possible Second - General

[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;40440693]its pretty fucked to drop that kind of weight on your friends and family assuming you have any left at that point no matter how shitty your life is, there's no excuse for putting the people that care about you through that[/QUOTE] The weight will be dropped regardless if you died today or in ten years, by choice or by accident. It won't be any less overwhelming, like society thinks there is a difference when the outcome doesn't change. In some ways, only assisted suicide or early talks can put mild relief on families and generally make it easier on relations to cope better than with a sudden loss of a loved one. What about parents who saw hope that their kids might not want to kill themselves but fate weren't in their hands? Do people who don't want to live have to pay the price for that too? If we can't drag a person off a cliff with us because we don't feel like being here (metaphorically), why should it be the other way around?

[QUOTE=Daemon;40441106]The weight will be dropped regardless if you died today or in ten years, by choice or by accident. It won't be any less overwhelming, like society thinks there is a difference when the outcome doesn't change. In some ways, only assisted suicide or early talks can put mild relief on families and generally make it easier on relations to cope better than with a sudden loss of a loved one.[/QUOTE] you really don't think suicides have a different emotional toll on friends and family than other forms of death? and you really think people would be okay with their loved ones' suicide if they just talked it out? sure if it's someone bedridden and eating through a tube for the rest of their life, but otherwise i'm doubtful what you're missing is the regret. people are going to reflect on their relationship with that person and think, "i didn't even know they were so troubled, is there anything i could have done to notice and prevent this sooner?" that is going to tear people apart, the closest ones especially you would rather be hurt by fate than someone you trust, right? you mention society as though it's a negative thing but the fact of the matter is that we are all a part of that society, people look at both the cause and the effect. people who trust you. [quote]What about parents who see hope that they might not have a kid that wants to kill himself so they decide to have children? Do people who don't want to live have to pay the price for that too? If we can't drag a person off a cliff with us because we don't feel like being here (metaphorically), why should it be the other way around?[/quote] i don't understand what you're trying to say here at all

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;40439608]killing yourself period is douchy and pathetic[/QUOTE] Watch out, you might cut your self on that edge.

[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;40441485]you really don't think suicides have a different emotional toll on friends and family than other forms of death? [/QUOTE] Different people take different news easier than others but it is all grievous. Why would we have to debate about this? [QUOTE=Anonymuzz;40441485] and you really think people would be okay with their loved ones' suicide if they just talked it out? sure if it's someone bedridden and eating through a tube for the rest of their life, but otherwise i'm doubtful[/QUOTE] No, i don't but i do believe they could understand and as the post below, maybe put their conscious to rest and even provide help if they could. [QUOTE=Anonymuzz;40441485]what you're missing is the regret. people are going to reflect on their relationship with that person and think, "i didn't even know they were so troubled, is there anything i could have done to notice and prevent this sooner?" that is going to tear people apart, the closest ones especially[/QUOTE] I admit possibly but you can play this backseat driving on many other tragedies and possibilities surrounding deaths that aren't alike. It seems like many go through the same experience after losing someone. [QUOTE=Anonymuzz;40441485]you would rather be hurt by fate than someone you trust, right? you mention society as though it's a negative thing but the fact of the matter is that we are all a part of that society, people look at both the cause and the effect. people who trust you.[/QUOTE] No, absolutely not. We know what fate says to people. It's why i wouldn't condone suicide for the repercussions of those who's attempts aren't fatal and end up in a worse off position than before. [QUOTE=Anonymuzz;40441485]i don't understand what you're trying to say here at all[/QUOTE] The fact is, you want someone to be dragged along through your existence at the expense of their misery because you get emotional reprisal out of it. You don't want to cope with the same pain just as much as the guy doesn't so who wins here? Do people need to create some elaborate scheme of things to rid themselves without any knowledge of the truth, go missing or become a child-molesting murderer to be clear of guilt?

[QUOTE=Anonymuzz;40440693]its pretty fucked to drop that kind of weight on your friends and family assuming you have any left at that point no matter how shitty your life is, there's no excuse for putting the people that care about you through that[/QUOTE] Getting splattered by a train, you can't even give them the small comfort of having your body there at the funeral, whether the casket's open or not.

[QUOTE=Retardation;40442144]there's no excuse for asking a person to continue living in mental agony just for ones own mental well being. it's even more selfish than the suicide itself. you're completely ignoring the victim and focusing your attention on the fact that his relatives and friends will be a somewhat sad for [B]a few months[/B] after he's gone.[/QUOTE] My godmother's daughter hung herself over a decade ago a few days before christmas. We still invite her over every christmas because she goes nearly mad with grief every year around that time. I'm just saying, don't underestimate the psychological damage that one suffers from the suicide of a loved one.

your aunt?

The guy is so close it's unreal. I guess all things happen for a reason really, and maybe that guy thought the same when the officer saved his life. I would hate to feel how that person felt before he got the point where he leaped for his death. Like all his problems/worries/debts everything leading up to that point where he's like. Fuck this. Fuck Everyone. I'm just going to go kill myself because it won't make a difference. Even worse must actually thinking you've done it and to realize you have been spared. Like it all just happens so quick. He goes for it, he is grabbed hold of, then he's swung away and marched off the track. Personally though I hate people who jump infront of trains. The amount of delays and havoc it's caused me getting to school/college and back. It's also just such a nasty way to go, I remember when one of my friend's brother committed suicide, the brother was also on the train that hit him. GRIM. He told me how he had loads of scares and stitches and how he looked really fucked up but said it in a joking manner which really confused me. The brother was absolutely amazing guy, he was so genuine and funny, I hate how people take their own lives. Especially this way. Rip Jaefeus :( [img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/148618_474470580052_3488636_n.jpg[/img]

Talk about split second reaction time. Amazing how he saved him

[QUOTE=ThePanther;40432337]That was staged as hell.[/QUOTE] yeah, suicides never happen.

The article has the wrong guy, they linked to the facebook of some guy in Medellin. The policeman that saved him is called Luis Alfonso Ramírez, AKA, this guy [img]http://www.eltiempo.com/justicia/IMAGEN/IMAGEN-12760512-2.jpg[/img] He's been lauded as a hero and awarded by the police force. Twice. It's hard to see such displays of quick wit and bravery nowadays. The guy who tried to jump is called Iván Silva.