Look Who's Back aka What if Hitler lived today? - Trailer
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Ninja'd the charlie chaplin post I scrolled down to post
The book for this movie was relatively popular and good I heard, so if you don't want to wait it has probably been translated.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;49012058]Nazi ideology should be mocked like the joke it is[/QUOTE]
Pretty much, it's better to remember dead and hateful ideologies with humour.
Like, most of the people in the former Soviet Union and eastern bloc countries tell anecdotes about about incompetence of the regimes they lived under and the pointless sufferings that they went through.
My grandmother enjoyed telling stories about how Polish villagers liked to rob both Nazi and Soviet trains for instance.
its not like you're making fun of the jews for getting murdered. you're making fun of hitler by turning him into this type of figure.
I remember reading the book. Haven't watched the movie yet, sadly.
It does look pretty sweet tho!
[editline]30th October 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=sgman91;49010340]I mean, it's funny and all, but doesn't anyone find it a little disturbing that they're treating one of the biggest genocidal, racially motivated, mass murderers in history as a comedy figure?
I mean, what if someone had people dressed in KKK hoods walk around Charleston, South Carolina doing funny antics as if they aren't really a big deal? Generally, I just don't think real evil is funny.[/QUOTE]
He's not really being shown as a comedy figure though? The charm about the book/movie is the fact that Hitler is acting... like Hitler in a modern time, full of new things. He's not trying to be funny or anything, he's literally being himself, while everyone else thinks he's some random comedian. It's charming, but also kinda dark. What's not to like?
[QUOTE=sgman91;49010461]It bothers me because Hitler is such an absolutely terrible person that I'm not sure how anyone can find him funny. [/QUOTE]
That's part of the charm though! It even says so in the book: "Laughing with Hitler - can you do that? Is that even allowed? Find it out yourself!" Plus it's just satire. It's not really tasteless or anything.
[QUOTE=sgman91;49010340]I mean, it's funny and all, but doesn't anyone find it a little disturbing that they're treating one of the biggest genocidal, racially motivated, mass murderers in history as a comedy figure?
I mean, what if someone had people dressed in KKK hoods walk around Charleston, South Carolina doing funny antics as if they aren't really a big deal? Generally, I just don't think real evil is funny.[/QUOTE]
probably because hitler hasn't had any ability to harm anyone since about some 60 odd years ago whereas the KKK, and by extension racial hate crime, is still a very real problem that plagues the usa
here hitler's image is just being used for shock value and that's where the comedy comes from.
hes about to find out, that living in the 21st century... isnt all its "cracked up" to be
That movie is quite awesome.
As Skunky said this movie is about Hitler, instead of dying in World War 2, gets somehow thrown into the present time. Nothing funny about his character, just Hitler discovering the modern world, being shocked about what the hell has happened since the end of the Great War.
Then he slowly starts to discover all the new technology like having hundreds of TV Stations, or the Internet. And as the Person he is, Hitler, he immediately starts to think about how to use these new media in his new Rise to power and popularity.
The people around him start to think he is a performance artist playing a role, and he starts to gather a cult following, later becoming a YouTube Star and stuff like that, getting invited to (real existing) Talk Shows and stuff.
The movie couldn't have come out at a better time, now with the huge refugee debate we're having a new wave of right wingers rising.
The more interesting aspect of this movie though is when you start to sympathise with him and what he thinks, for example when he first starts watching modern TV and he's like: "This is the greatest invention of all time!" and then he suddenly realizes: "Wow like 95% of the stuff they're showing is rubbish". That's a point many people would agree with, until they realize that they just sympathized with Hitler on that regard. The movie plays a lot around this idea of sympathy and being scared of sympathizing with him.
So a debate about "should the Fuhrer be a joke, can we laugh about him" kinda misses the point, as the movie actually goes quite a bit deeper on that regard.
[QUOTE=sgman91;49010340]I mean, it's funny and all, but doesn't anyone find it a little disturbing that they're treating one of the biggest genocidal, racially motivated, mass murderers in history as a comedy figure?
I mean, what if someone had people dressed in KKK hoods walk around Charleston, South Carolina doing funny antics as if they aren't really a big deal? Generally, I just don't think real evil is funny.[/QUOTE]
The best way to remember genocidal freaks is to make fun of them.
[QUOTE=sgman91;49010340]I mean, it's funny and all, but doesn't anyone find it a little disturbing that they're treating one of the biggest genocidal, racially motivated, mass murderers in history as a comedy figure?
I mean, what if someone had people dressed in KKK hoods walk around Charleston, South Carolina doing funny antics as if they aren't really a big deal? Generally, I just don't think real evil is funny.[/QUOTE]
German comedy is very dry and grim. That's just how it is.
[QUOTE=MaGGiFiXXX;49014401]That movie is quite awesome.
As Skunky said this movie is about Hitler, instead of dying in World War 2, gets somehow thrown into the present time. Nothing funny about his character, just Hitler discovering the modern world, being shocked about what the hell has happened since the end of the Great War.
Then he slowly starts to discover all the new technology like having hundreds of TV Stations, or the Internet. And as the Person he is, Hitler, he immediately starts to think about how to use these new media in his new Rise to power and popularity.
The people around him start to think he is a performance artist playing a role, and he starts to gather a cult following, later becoming a YouTube Star and stuff like that, getting invited to (real existing) Talk Shows and stuff.
The movie couldn't have come out at a better time, now with the huge refugee debate we're having a new wave of right wingers rising.
The more interesting aspect of this movie though is when you start to sympathise with him and what he thinks, for example when he first starts watching modern TV and he's like: "This is the greatest invention of all time!" and then he suddenly realizes: "Wow like 95% of the stuff they're showing is rubbish". That's a point many people would agree with, until they realize that they just sympathized with Hitler on that regard. The movie plays a lot around this idea of sympathy and being scared of sympathizing with him.
So a debate about "should the Fuhrer be a joke, can we laugh about him" kinda misses the point, as the movie actually goes quite a bit deeper on that regard.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for putting everyone in their place
[QUOTE=MaGGiFiXXX;49014401]As Skunky said this movie is about Hitler, instead of dying in World War 2, gets somehow thrown into the present time. Nothing funny about his character, just Hitler discovering the modern world, being shocked about what the hell has happened since the end of the Great War.[/QUOTE]
Just fyi it's WW1 that's called the Great War, not WW2.
Not all scenes in this movie are completely scripted, they fuck with real people and actual neo-nazis as well.
At one point, the Hitler character sets a bunch of right wing punks against a cast member.
This movie is as much a comedy as it is social commentary.
So this is sorta like German Borat in terms of how it was made?
[QUOTE=sgman91;49010340]I mean, it's funny and all, but doesn't anyone find it a little disturbing that they're treating one of the biggest genocidal, racially motivated, mass murderers in history as a comedy figure?
.[/QUOTE]
You mean we find Kim Jung Il so feckin funny?
[QUOTE=draugur;49014470]German comedy is very dry and grim. That's just how it is.[/QUOTE]
We're basically british lite.
they had me at "i'm tv"
[QUOTE=PelPix123;49052754]It's taking him about as seriously as he deserves to be taken.
Not un-seriously, just seriously as a mentally ill figure.[/QUOTE]
So mentally ill deserve to be laughed at huh
[QUOTE=PelPix123;49052754]It's taking him about as seriously as he deserves to be taken.
Not un-seriously, just seriously as a mentally ill figure.[/QUOTE]
Doing things you think are wrong doesn't make him mentally ill. He had clear goals and acted in a way that got him very close to achieving those goals. There were plenty of Nazi supporters with PHDs.
I also have a question for anyone who's read the books: Do they show as being a hateful racist? Or do they whitewash his uglier side to offhand joke comments about "world domination?"
[QUOTE=sgman91;49010690]I agree with napoleon as an example. Our modern society has absolutely no idea what he did. He's just a funny short guy (who wasn't actually short).
I, personally, don't want Hitler to become a funny loudmouth with a weird mustache. I want him to be remembered for what he did.[/QUOTE]
did you fail history class or something because killing 8 million jews doesn't fade out of memory. People aren't going to just forget, just like people haven't forgotten Caeser, or Mao Zedong, or Hideki Tojo, or even just people who were major dicks in general. Neither does being a part of the french revolution allow people to forget.
As star trek puts it, people will be referring to Hitler for centuries to come as the worst we had to offer. We have both digital and physical libraries of them after all
[editline]6th November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=draugur;49014470]German comedy is very dry and grim. That's just how it is.[/QUOTE]
I kind of am liking it, personally :v:
just straight to the offense jokes
The trailer was brillant
This movie looks hilarious
[QUOTE=J!NX;49060737]did you fail history class or something because killing 8 million jews doesn't fade out of memory. People aren't going to just forget, just like people haven't forgotten Caeser, or Mao Zedong, or Hideki Tojo, or even just people who were major dicks in general. Neither does being a part of the french revolution allow people to forget.[/QUOTE]
of course we have the history written down, but people don't tend to think about the past very often, how certain powers came to rise, some similarities (not everything of course) from then and now, which is scary.
[QUOTE=sgman91;49055732]Doing things you think are wrong doesn't make him mentally ill. He had clear goals and acted in a way that got him very close to achieving those goals. There were plenty of Nazi supporters with PHDs.
I also have a question for anyone who's read the books: Do they show as being a hateful racist? Or do they whitewash his uglier side to offhand joke comments about "world domination?"[/QUOTE]
I read the book, it doesn't attempt to skirt around the racism or antisemitism at all.
It's also a very funny book that I would highly recommend reading. It's not very long and you'd likely finish it in just a couple of sittings.
Any english subs yet?
Wasn't there a german movie about some old lady falling into a coma during the Nazi reign and then waking up during the present days? I believe I've heard about it, but can't remember the name.
[QUOTE=maxumym;49068966]Wasn't there a german movie about some old lady falling into a coma during the Nazi reign and then waking up during the present days? I believe I've heard about it, but can't remember the name.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0301357/[/url]
Good Bye Lenin!
I personally really liked the movie.
[QUOTE=Steele92;49053093]So mentally ill deserve to be laughed at huh[/QUOTE]
The mentally ill that caused the most destructive war in human history and engaged in acts of despicable genocide on a horrifying scale, yes.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;49069379][url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0301357/[/url]
Good Bye Lenin!
I personally really liked the movie.[/QUOTE]
Didn't really happen during the Nazi reign though like he stated.
[QUOTE=Inspecter;49069929]Didn't really happen during the Nazi reign though like he stated.[/QUOTE]
Guessing he just thought it was in the Nazi period.
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