[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44930552]i've literally never said it wasn't a good or fun game
just that it didn't live up to it's E3 video and thus was sold on a lie.
don't take it so personally.
and you're free to your opinion of GTAV, I thoroughly enjoyed it and think it's a good game.[/QUOTE]
I've definitely had moments where I thought "reminds me of the trailer" so I don't know what this game isn't living up to.
[editline]28th May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;44932899]You pretty much just listed the ONLY outstanding detail, id be a liar if I said the civilians were shit, also the little dynamic events that can happen are a really nice touch, like two cars getting into a carcrash, sometimes 1 dies and the NPC comments on it, sometimes its a fender bender and they get out and start giving attitude to each other.
Yet at the same time, it feels so barren and lifeless, the scenery is pretty ugly except in a few places where the game CAN actually look great(not run great) on ultra, such as the northwestern area Pawnee.
Aside from that, the game doesnt really do anything amazing, the game itself ends up being just "good" like a flat 70/100, I mean the writing and campaign are awful, the writing is so bad its not even opinion, its just schlock. You know somethings wrong when your fucking minigames and sidemissions are the highlight of your game and not the actual main story of it.
Even the hacking becomes pretty mundane after like 5 hours of play, its the same old shit, and the gunlplay is so easy and you literally fucking shit out ammo that hacking is almost never worthwhile, you get LESS XP WAY LESS, from fucking stealth+hacking than you would guns blazing with Headshots.
So the main feature they wanted you to use, and most likely wanted you too be a non killing stealth guy, you dont get any rewards for it, and far less than just being a killing machine.
The best way to describe watch_dogs is honestly, its a game thats very good at keeping you busy with a lot of unique things to do, yet at the same time, it doesnt do any of them exceptionally well to be blown away.
Also not even including all the lies and bullshit marketing surrounding this game and the atrocious PC port that will most likely never get polished because its ubisoft. At least GTAIV ran fine on my PC, it was just an ugly looking PC port(people were hoping for big changing graphic options) and not so much a shitty unoptimized mess, it wasnt perfect by any means, but Watch_Dogs is an embarrassment, nothing in the game should be nearly as taxing as it is, because it looks like shit 90% of the time.[/QUOTE]
Game runs smooth as butter for me, and hacking gets repetitive if you're a boring person, that's it. NPCs aren't the only detailed aspect about this game. Every block has it's own story and personality to it.
[editline]28th May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44934701]i don't think that's at all a good excuse for poor optimization.[/QUOTE]
Stuttering was fixed on the day one patch for me, other than that the only technical difficulties have been with UPlay. Have you even played the game?
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44935045]I've definitely had moments where I thought "reminds me of the trailer" so I don't know what this game isn't living up to.
[editline]28th May 2014[/editline]
Game runs smooth as butter for me, and hacking gets repetitive if you're a boring person, that's it. NPCs aren't the only detailed aspect about this game. Every block has it's own story and personality to it.
[editline]28th May 2014[/editline]
Stuttering was fixed on the day one patch for me, other than that the only technical difficulties have been with UPlay. Have you even played the game?[/QUOTE]
no, i've watched 5 or 6 different game play reviews all at least 40 minutes on PC and saw stuttering and optimization issues.
I'm not buying it regardless until it goes on sale as the what I've heard about the story alone is enough to make me want to hold off for a while.
Am I unable to talk of anything about the game until I've played through it?
[editline]28th May 2014[/editline]
I'd like you to note, like I've been saying this whole time, I never, ever said it wasn't a fun or good game.
but go ahead and lambast me like I have.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44935134]no, i've watched 5 or 6 different game play reviews all at least 40 minutes on PC and saw stuttering and optimization issues.
I'm not buying it regardless until it goes on sale as the what I've heard about the story alone is enough to make me want to hold off for a while.
Am I unable to talk of anything about the game until I've played through it?
[editline]28th May 2014[/editline]
I'd like you to note, like I've been saying this whole time, I never, ever said it wasn't a fun or good game.
but go ahead and lambast me like I have.[/QUOTE]
I'm 12 hours in and have yet to think "ew, ugly" or "aw wish i could do that, thought i was going to be able to". I have however, been frequently getting the thoughts "that looks really nice" or "ok that was epic" or "YEEESSSS". The only complaint I have so far is when driving, accelerating and turning is too sensitive.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44935230]I'm 12 hours in and have yet to think "ew, ugly"[/QUOTE]
u have something wrong with your eyes
[QUOTE=endorphinsam;44936104]u have something wrong with your eyes[/QUOTE]
haha no i've just actually taken the time to try the game out. it then spawned a 12 hour gaming session
[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;44917090]I'm not saying that it's what you meant, but this is in no way an example of next gen technology, Crackdown 1 had that in 2007[/QUOTE]
Neither is leaving scatches on walls that everybody in this thread seems to be cumming over. It is literary bullet holes with cars, not some technological marvel
[QUOTE=Snapster;44917091]another comparison
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcCqfuam-tc[/media][/QUOTE]
The only thing I liked about Watch Dogs in this comparison to GTA IV was the gas escaping from the silenced pistol when shooting. gj watch dog! :)
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;44937394]Neither is leaving scatches on walls that everybody in this thread seems to be cumming over. It is literary bullet holes with cars, not some technological marvel[/QUOTE]
and yet Watch Dogs can't do it
[QUOTE=HazzaHardie;44942474]and yet Watch Dogs can't do it[/QUOTE]
I am sure it is capable, it just doesn't because Ubisoft exec's are terrible people who ruined the game.
[QUOTE=HazzaHardie;44942474]and yet Watch Dogs can't do it[/QUOTE]
correction: watch dogs didn't do it.
Fuck me if a game doesn't have as much cosmetic details as the free roaming game that is famous for it's immersive details
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
I can't even say GTA IV has more cosmetic detail. The way the physical objects react to the player is more detailed.
Funny how GTA4 which used to get shit on for its crap graphics, is now being praised for them years later because another game did a worse job of it.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44945880]correction: watch dogs didn't do it.
Fuck me if a game doesn't have as much cosmetic details as the free roaming game that is famous for it's immersive details
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
I can't even say GTA IV has more cosmetic detail. The way the physical objects react to the player is more detailed.[/QUOTE]
Why are you even still sitting here arguing with everybody? Just accept it already, next to nobody here thinks it looks good, big fucking deal dude.
Yeah, it doesn't have as much cool shit as GTA but that doesn't mean it can't [I]try[/I].
Why do you seem to think this sort of mediocrity is okay in the modern gaming industry? Hell, fucking Crysis 1 is still used as a graphical benchmark today despite being seven years old, GTA has an amazing world and level of detail, the Elder Scrolls series, despite their drawbacks, have a super immersive world and decent stories.
The problem is, with all these games setting new benchmarks in every aspect every year, mediocrity [i]should not be tolerated.[/I] We shouldn't even be sitting here having this discussion over three different threads. The game looks bad, plain and simple. It has a lot of problems. It could be worse. It could be LOADS better. It [I]should[/I] have been loads better.
Why are you so okay with such laziness and mediocrity? Don't you want more from games than this? Don't you want something to actually live up to the hype?
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;44945989]Why are you even still sitting here arguing with everybody? Just accept it already, next to nobody here thinks it looks good, big fucking deal dude.
Yeah, it doesn't have as much cool shit as GTA but that doesn't mean it can't [I]try[/I].
Why do you seem to think this sort of mediocrity is okay in the modern gaming industry? Hell, fucking Crysis 1 is still used as a graphical benchmark today despite being seven years old, GTA has an amazing world and level of detail, the Elder Scrolls series, despite their drawbacks, have a super immersive world and decent stories.
The problem is, with all these games setting new benchmarks in every aspect every year, mediocrity [i]should not be tolerated.[/I] We shouldn't even be sitting here having this discussion over three different threads. The game looks bad, plain and simple. It has a lot of problems. It could be worse. It could be LOADS better. It [I]should[/I] have been loads better.
Why are you so okay with such laziness and mediocrity? Don't you want more from games than this? Don't you want something to actually live up to the hype?[/QUOTE]
The game is far above mediocre and calling the devs lazy is childish as fuck. I'm allowed to make posts on a forum, don't think you can do anything to stop me.
Listen to you "[i]should not be tolerated!"[/i]
fucking cry babies
People are allowed to create what they want, and make changes to their IP if and when they want. That's never gonna change because some self entitled kids think they have more control over creative materials than the creators themselves. There are far worse AAA games than this, and some far better ones. That doesn't mean it's mediocre, it's definitely a strong enough game to stand out on it's own.
someone's put sleepless nights into this game and it shows, it's a fun game with engaging mechanics, if you can't see that, then I don't know what else to say, just don't be a dick and call the developers lazy and a bunch of liars [i]{without even trying the game}[/i] because you look like a little kid.
I tried to explain this to a "grill gamr!!!" at school today. She told me to "shut the fuck up" and that the game was super good and that it was next-gen
[I]
jesus christ[/I]
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946098]The game is far above mediocre and calling the devs lazy is childish as fuck. I'm allowed to make posts on a forum, don't think you can do anything to stop me.
Listen to you "[i]should not be tolerated!"[/i]
fucking cry babies
People are allowed to create what they want, and make changes to their IP if and when they want. That's never gonna change because some self entitled kids think they have more control over creative materials than the creators themselves. There are far worse AAA games than this, and some far better ones. That doesn't mean it's mediocre, it's definitely a strong enough game to stand out on it's own.
someone's put sleepless nights into this game and it shows, it's a fun game with engaging mechanics, if you can't see that, then I don't know what else to say, just don't be a dick and call the developers lazy and a bunch of liars [i]{without even trying the game}[/i] because you look like a little kid.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing more i can say to a stubborn fool that would rather rock back in forth in a corner telling himself everything is alright than actually voice his opinion when something is wrong.
Get over yourself dude, game is mediocre and could be better or worse, deal with it.
[QUOTE=Dub!;44946120]I tried to explain this to a "grill gamr!!!" at school today. She told me to "shut the fuck up" and that the game was super good and that it was next-gen
[I]
jesus christ[/I][/QUOTE]
OK.
Please.
Go ahead.
explain c:
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;44946197]There's nothing more i can say to a stubborn fool that would rather rock back in forth in a corner telling himself everything is alright than actually voice his opinion when something is wrong.
Get over yourself dude, game is mediocre and could be better or worse, deal with it.[/QUOTE]
Get over yourself dude, you're bashing professionals for a game you haven't even taken the time to try.
I went in to the game expecting to make fun of it.
Game didn't look half as bad as people exclaimed and I ended up playing for 12 hours straight, I've racked 21 hours so far, and I'd have more if I didn't have to make a living for myself.
Now you're accusing me of voicing dishonest opinions. How much lower you gonna go here?
Your first mistake is just assuming nobody here has played the game. You're voicing opinions that are just plain wrong, not dishonest. You've pretty much sat here and touted it as the best game ever and the most beautiful and it's far from and bashing and shitposting at anybody that has disagreed with you. I'm not going low, i'm just calling you out on being a stubborn idiot.
And posts like these
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946200]OK.
Please.
Go ahead.
explain c:
[/quote]
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44935045]Game runs smooth as butter for me, and hacking gets repetitive if you're a boring person, that's it. NPCs aren't the only detailed aspect about this game. Every block has it's own story and personality to it.[/quote]
Aren't exactly going to get people on your side.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;44946298]Your first mistake is just assuming nobody here has played the game. You're voicing opinions that are just plain wrong, not dishonest. You've pretty much sat here and touted it as the best game ever and the most beautiful and it's far from and bashing and shitposting at anybody that has disagreed with you. I'm not going low, i'm just calling you out on being a stubborn idiot.
And posts like these
Aren't exactly going to get people on your side.[/QUOTE]
Where have I said it's the most beautiful and best game ever? This is the same level of immaturity and exaggeration that we see throughout this whole thread. And I took the liberty of checking your steam profile before making the assumption that you haven't tried the game, am I wrong?
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946327]Where have I said it's the most beautiful and best game ever? This is the same level of immaturity and exaggeration that we see throughout this whole thread. And I took the liberty of checking your steam profile before making the assumption that you haven't tried the game, am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
Your stance of "everybody here is immature because they don't like the way it looks" isn't getting you anywhere and if you have a problem with it, no one here is keeping you around and in fact, judging by your ratings, people would prefer you just not be. I'm not saying you've specifically said that but that's the way you act. And besides, i haven't played it, i'm fully admitting that and don't think i ever implied that i've done so. It's the same as looking at any game and judging on whether or not i should get it or not. At any point in time, if i ever saw a game like this and all the controversy and disappointment surrounded it, i'd NEVER get it. I don't need to have tried Crysis to tell you it's an amazing and beautiful game.
I'm not denying it's got cool shit in it, even a broken clock is right twice a day (unless it's Digital) but when as a whole, the game failed to deliver and quite frankly is steering people away from it, there's an undeniable problem and i'm sorry that you just don't get that. You can have fun with it, i'm not trying to stop you, but there's problems dude.
It all comes down to a bunch of small things that add up and people have problems with it. Don't hype the hell out of a game when you can't deliver. I wouldn't tell someone i'd do something for them and turn around and not do it, neither should a company people expect better from.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946327]Where have I said it's the most beautiful and best game ever? This is the same level of immaturity and exaggeration that we see throughout this whole thread. And I took the liberty of checking your steam profile before making the assumption that you haven't tried the game, am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
Why would a person NEED to play a game to see the level of detail is shit?
When I can see cars rendering 10ft from me and see the reflections in the windows aren't accurate as well as damage on a car doesn't show on a game claiming to be next-gen its a disappointment don't hype your game to be the next big thing if its not going to be.
[editline] May 29 2014 [/editline]
For example I don't need to play Crysis to tell you its a gorgeous game.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946327]And I took the liberty of checking your steam profile before making the assumption that you haven't tried the game, am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
Watch_Dogs isn't PC exclusive.
[editline]29th May 2014[/editline]
That being said, from what i've seen, the quality is the same on consoles as well.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;44946392]Your stance of "everybody here is immature because they don't like the way it looks" isn't getting you anywhere and if you have a problem with it, no one here is keeping you around and in fact, judging by your ratings, people would prefer you just not be. I'm not saying you've specifically said that but that's the way you act. And besides, i haven't played it, i'm fully admitting that. It's the same as looking at any game and judging on whether or not i should get it or not. At any point in time, if i ever saw a game like this and all the controversy and disappointment surrounded it, i'd NEVER get it. I don't need to have tried Crysis to tell you it's an amazing and beautiful game.
I'm not denying it's got cool shit in it, even a broken clock is right twice a day (unless it's Digital) but when as a whole, the game failed to deliver and quite frankly is steering people away from it, there's an undeniable problem and i'm sorry that you just don't get that. You can have fun with it, i'm not trying to stop you, but there's problems dude.
It all comes down to a bunch of small things that add up and people have problems with it. Don't hype the hell out of a game when you can't deliver. I wouldn't tell someone i'd do something for them and turn around and not do it, neither should a company people expect better from.[/QUOTE]
I never said people were immature because they weren't pleased with the way it looks. I called people immature for exaggerating the problems with this game and chalking the problems up to "the devs, these professionals who have dedicated their lives and careers into making video games, are just lazy, and they are liars too, slithering liars."
I've just been around long enough to know a blind crusader when I see one, and this thread is full of em.
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=F T;44946408]Watch_Dogs isn't PC exclusive.
[editline]29th May 2014[/editline]
That being said, from what i've seen, the quality is the same on consoles as well.[/QUOTE]
From what I've heard, the quality is worse on the consoles. And for the current/last-gen consoles there's no online freeroam or decryption, which I have to say is quite a bitch.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946439]I never said people were immature because they weren't pleased with the way it looks. I called people immature for exaggerating the problems with this game and chalking the problems up to "the devs, these professionals who have dedicated their lives and careers into making video games, are just lazy, and they are liars too, slithering liars."
I've just been around long enough to know a blind crusader when I see one, and this thread is full of em.[/QUOTE]
I've been around plenty long enough to know a white-knight when i see one as well.
I don't think anyone has flat out called them a liar but don't hype a game you won't deliver on and it IS lazy when you put out a meh game when you've made plenty better, like AC4 for instance. Besides, people dedicated their lives to games like DNF, Superman 64 and numerous others for them to still be absolute garbage, so that rehashed point isn't really valid.
[editline] May 29 2014 [/editline]
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946467]But reflections do show in windows, and cars do show damage. So your point is really flawed, but I get what you're saying. Just a lot of people are basing the assumptions on this video wherein it's clearly not set to max settings.[/QUOTE]
The reflections don't even show the right things in the windows, i posted a picture ON THIS PAGE showcasing that exact thing and i'd assume he meant dynamic car damage, not a set model for each level of damage. And there's dozens of these kinds of videos, three of which are on this forum, all of which are showcasing the same problems as various settings.
[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;44946394]Why would a person NEED to play a game to see the level of detail is shit?
When I can see cars rendering 10ft from me and see the reflections in the windows aren't accurate as well as damage on a car doesn't show on a game claiming to be next-gen its a disappointment don't hype your game to be the next big thing if its not going to be.
[editline] May 29 2014 [/editline]
For example I don't need to play Crysis to tell you its a gorgeous game.[/QUOTE]
But reflections do show in windows, and cars do show damage. So your point is really flawed, but I get what you're saying. Just a lot of people are basing the assumptions on this video wherein it's clearly not set to max settings.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946439]I never said people were immature because they weren't pleased with the way it looks. I called people immature for exaggerating the problems with this game and chalking the problems up to "the devs, these professionals who have dedicated their lives and careers into making video games, are just lazy, and they are liars too, slithering liars."
I've just been around long enough to know a blind crusader when I see one, and this thread is full of em.
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
From what I've heard, the quality is worse on the consoles. And for the current/last-gen consoles there's no online freeroam or decryption, which I have to say is quite a bitch.[/QUOTE]
Plenty of devs make shit games you cannot use that a an argument.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;44946460]I've been around plenty long enough to know a white-knight when i see one as well.
I don't think anyone has flat out called them a liar but don't hype a game you won't deliver on and it IS lazy when you put out a meh game when you've made plenty better, like AC4 for instance. Besides, people dedicated their lives to games like DNF, Superman 64 and numerous others for them to still be absolute garbage, so that rehashed point isn't really valid.[/QUOTE]
I've seen plenty of posts saying they are flat-out liars.
When there's even an AMA from an ubisoft employee saying they needed 6 extra months but ubisoft wasn't giving it to them. That's still no reason to bash the team that worked on this game.
Also, don't know how many times I'll say this, but the game is above "meh" tier for sure. I'm not saying it's an instant classic, but it's definitely a good game with it's own unique feel to it and has REALLY engaging multiplayer modes, which is where I think the game excels.
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;44946481]Plenty of devs make shit games you cannot use that a an argument.[/QUOTE]
Plenty of devs make shit games but that's from lack of directive or expertise. I don't bash the team and call them lazy because that would make me a shitty person
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;44946460]I've been around plenty long enough to know a white-knight when i see one as well.
I don't think anyone has flat out called them a liar but don't hype a game you won't deliver on and it IS lazy when you put out a meh game when you've made plenty better, like AC4 for instance. Besides, people dedicated their lives to games like DNF, Superman 64 and numerous others for them to still be absolute garbage, so that rehashed point isn't really valid.
[editline] May 29 2014 [/editline]
The reflections don't even show the right things in the windows, i posted a picture ON THIS PAGE showcasing that exact thing and i'd assume he meant dynamic car damage, not a set model for each level of damage. And there's dozens of these kinds of videos, three of which are on this forum, all of which are showcasing the same problems as various settings.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, so I may have not noticed the messed up cubemap.
But again, it's another thing that happens in A LOT of games (including BF4) but because it happens in Watch Dogs it's sacrilege.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946492]I've seen plenty of posts saying they are flat-out liars.
When there's even an AMA from an ubisoft employee saying they needed 6 extra months but ubisoft wasn't giving it to them. That's still no reason to bash the team that worked on this game.
Also, don't know how many times I'll say this, but the game is above "meh" tier for sure. I'm not saying it's an instant classic, but it's definitely a good game with it's own unique feel to it and has REALLY engaging multiplayer modes, which is where I think the game excels. Hell, small, single man indie devs can make absolutely wonderful games that huge companies just can't.
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
Plenty of devs make shit games but that's from lack of directive or expertise. I don't bash the team and call them lazy because that would make me a shitty person[/QUOTE]
Jesus dude, the gameplay is above meh tier, i'm not even talking about the gameplay, the GRAPHICS (say it with me) are meh-tier. Yeah, oh jeez, the LIGHTING is amazing, we know, but as a whole the graphics aren't what they should have been.
And no, smaller companies have that issue, take games like Call of Duty or DNF or Medal of Honor or any other numerous AAA games. Huge teams, plenty of directive and budget and expertise and they made horrible games.
[editline] May 29 2014 [/editline]
Also, people call those games out just as much as they do Watch_Dogs, WD is just the present one with some of the worst cases of it, especially with as much hype as there was focusing attention on this game.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946439]From what I've heard, the quality is worse on the consoles. And for the current/last-gen consoles there's no online freeroam or decryption, which I have to say is quite a bitch.[/QUOTE]
...Wouldn't that just prove his point then?
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;44946492]I've seen plenty of posts saying they are flat-out liars.
When there's even an AMA from an ubisoft employee saying they needed 6 extra months but ubisoft wasn't giving it to them. That's still no reason to bash the team that worked on this game.
Also, don't know how many times I'll say this, but the game is above "meh" tier for sure. I'm not saying it's an instant classic, but it's definitely a good game with it's own unique feel to it and has REALLY engaging multiplayer modes, which is where I think the game excels.
[editline]30th May 2014[/editline]
Plenty of devs make shit games but that's from lack of directive or expertise. I don't bash the team and call them lazy because that would make me a shitty person[/QUOTE]
No its not from lack of direction or expertise not everyone is trying to make the best game they can. Most devs are trying to get a pay check and get the game out as they're told to do. A lot of devs are lazy. It doesn't make you a shitty person to call people out on shit like that.
[QUOTE=Thlis;44915213]I am not really interested in Watch Dogs but good god you all are being pretty big sperglords about things which really don't matter.
I mean how big of a sperg do you have to be to care that the car does not have every wheel accurately on each step of a staircase. Is there really ever going to be a point in the game where a single ripple in the water is going to be consequential to the gameplay in any way?
I am going to save this thread for when you all inevitably say "It's the gameplay that matters, not graphics" about another game.[/QUOTE]
Missing the point where they call this a next gen game, aka details details details, when it clearly isn't one.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.
