[QUOTE=Midas22;45870814]Hey guys
Its a kids TV show.[/QUOTE]
Shame it had to be Star Wars.
Here's what they should have made instead of some stupid Show aimed at Kids....
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpJX7hgRjJo[/media]
They really don't do enough of the Old Republic lore stuff anyway.
[QUOTE=Midas22;45870814]Hey guys
Its a kids TV show.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gamerman12;45797508]Still dull as hell. Designs are okay but the animation and jokes have no timing and the actual story for it is so bland child me would turn this off in an instant. You want to know a cartoon show that is [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_time"]catered for kids[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed,_Edd_n_Eddy"]well animated[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courage_the_Cowardly_Dog"]and with interesting plot[/URL]? Well, there you go.[/QUOTE]
Ugh... that neutered "the force" theme when he sensed the incoming blasts...
And yeah, those blaster bolts at the start were stupidly slow looking.
But nothing beats the fucking slingshot for facepalm... Worse yet, it fucking ARCS... because PHYSICS!
Bleh!
[QUOTE=Source;45873222]Here's what they should have made instead of some stupid Show aimed at Kids....
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpJX7hgRjJo[/media]
They really don't do enough of the Old Republic lore stuff anyway.[/QUOTE]
They do lots of stuff? Lots of novels have came out based around the Old Republic stuff.
[QUOTE=Source;45873222]Here's what they should have made instead of some stupid Show aimed at Kids....
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpJX7hgRjJo[/media]
They really don't do enough of the Old Republic lore stuff anyway.[/QUOTE]
They need to ditch this stupid cartoon crap and pull out a full on gritty series based on this, or at least an animated film. OR lore has a lot sat in it and all it has going for it currently is a shitty MMO and a few novels which most people wont pickup.
Here's the thing: Disney doesn't give a shit about the older fans, the people in charge have never cared. You know why? Kids buy more toys and they watched the prequels first so you get only prequel stuff. We get Rebels because the original films are going to be prominent again with 7 coming out.
I tried watching a few episodes of The Clone Wars series recently
Basically I skipped ahead to the reputedly better and more mature seasons, starting with season 4's first two episodes
Those were pretty terrible, they were pretty dark for a kids show (Mon Calamari and Gungans and such being slaughtered, particularly by the weird shark humanoid) but you can still tell its a kid's show. The main arc is about a squeaky, awkward kid with terrible writing and terrible voice acting who has to learn about leadership so he can be a king and bla bla bla
I then did some research and tried the S4 episodes about an all out war on a separatist planet by Clones, with a pretty shit Jedi General leading them, and they were bearable to watch, and genuinely good in places, particularly with the animation quality and combat, but the writing for the Jedi was pretty poor. Again, pretty grim, with loads of Clones being slaughtered. The direct kid appeal is a lot less obvious.
I've also seen a couple other odd episodes like S1 EP1 (Yoda and 3 Clones vs a fuckton of droids, that was a good one) before that varied in quality.
In conclusion its an iffy show, maybe worth watching some of the episodes. This new rebels show looks extremely shit and childish, not even the original CW episodes looked that bad.
Oh my god imagine a childrens show being childish huh what no way.
You need to understand that this isn't being made to appeal to you, so there's no point getting upset because the series doesn't cater to what you think star wars should be.
That said the animation is shit and there's no excuse for that.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;45886059]Oh my god imagine a childrens show being childish huh what no way.
You need to understand that this isn't being made to appeal to you, so there's no point getting upset because the series doesn't cater to what you think star wars should be.
That said the animation is shit and there's no excuse for that.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that the show is completely childish. Its been shown time and time again that cartoons can be made that have a fair share of childish moments, but also have good stories and characters. With subject matter like Star Wars, the creators could have found a better balance for the show, especially with all the source material available to them.
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;45881657]I tried watching a few episodes of The Clone Wars series recently
Basically I skipped ahead to the reputedly better and more mature seasons, starting with season 4's first two episodes
Those were pretty terrible, they were pretty dark for a kids show (Mon Calamari and Gungans and such being slaughtered, particularly by the weird shark humanoid) but you can still tell its a kid's show. The main arc is about a squeaky, awkward kid with terrible writing and terrible voice acting who has to learn about leadership so he can be a king and bla bla bla
I then did some research and tried the S4 episodes about an all out war on a separatist planet by Clones, with a pretty shit Jedi General leading them, and they were bearable to watch, and genuinely good in places, particularly with the animation quality and combat, but the writing for the Jedi was pretty poor. Again, pretty grim, with loads of Clones being slaughtered. The direct kid appeal is a lot less obvious.
I've also seen a couple other odd episodes like S1 EP1 (Yoda and 3 Clones vs a fuckton of droids, that was a good one) before that varied in quality.
In conclusion its an iffy show, maybe worth watching some of the episodes. This new rebels show looks extremely shit and childish, not even the original CW episodes looked that bad.[/QUOTE]
Season 1-2 are notable for have relatively low quality compared to seasons 3-6 mostly because they got a HUGE budget increase for the show so in short higher quality and newer models. Anyway if you skip out over seasons 1-2 you miss some relatively good episodes revolving around the Clones,Mandalorians, and some of the internal politics going about. But calling it terrible or bad based on getting into the later seasons without knowing many of the other characters is a tad unfair. Give or take they had the Prince(Kid) character because they still NEED to show they're a kid's show but you also got some the heavy Clone,War, and Political episodes that have little to no antics. While you have episodes with Jar-Jar and droids being more kid friendly outside of the man storyline, usually the filler episodes are for the kids while the main story arcs tend to have the action,death,war,etc.
[QUOTE=Sharker;45863059]Yep, the imperials are all pushovers, seems about accurate to me. Not like they took over a large part of the galaxy or anything.[/QUOTE]
the were all pushovers in the original trilogy too, lol
Well this isn't too bad
[i]Laser Slingshot[/i]
No it's bad.
GIVE ME BACK MY FUCKING CLONE WARS
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;45887415]Well this isn't too bad
[i]Laser Slingshot[/i]
No it's bad.[/QUOTE]
Least they showed the Jedi Cowboy character shooting stormtroopers with little to no regret towards it.
Oh lordie, the laser that blew up the TIE fighter not only misses, but the TIE fighter explodes before it even hits, so the laser just vanishes a short distance behind it
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;45886059]Oh my god imagine a childrens show being childish huh what no way.
You need to understand that this isn't being made to appeal to you, so there's no point getting upset because the series doesn't cater to what you think star wars should be.
That said the animation is shit and there's no excuse for that.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Animated_Series"]but it is possible to make a show that's dramatic and still for kids[/URL] and when dealing with something as badass as Star Wars, it best not be some comedic shitshow where even the comedy falls flat.
Besides, the comedy on me gets lost when they're actually fucking killing real humans. I don't seem to remember such a large bodycount in Clone Wars, since they fought droids and not living beings. This is a much darker storyline underneath and yet they're treating it with the same respect as the old series did, which just doesn't work. They've gotta learn to adapt.
[QUOTE=elowin;45887377]the were all pushovers in the original trilogy too, lol[/QUOTE]
To be fair it usually only showed when they were facing off against someone really important, and even then it was only really obvious in episode IV. The rebels on Hoth and Endor get fucking wrecked and while the main characters can hold their own they're at least in some kind of danger. Even though Luke and Han cut through the Imperials like butter, you can at least get glimpses of how they managed to maintain galactic dominance for as long as they did. In most of the large-scale battles the rebels get torn to shreds, and they're the most competent force out there.
Point is, I don't think the Empire is gonna be treated right in this show. In the OT they were good but the heroes were better. Here I doubt they'll ever pose a legitimate threat to anyone.
[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;45870371]I usually say this any thread regarding Rebels. They aren't reusing any assets from TCW so of course things aren't going to look as spiffy as they did before, literally everything they have have IIRC is new. Assuming this too as well is that they're currently on a smaller budget than what they had for TCW. We all know post season 2 the quality of TCW surged ahead and ended up looking damn impressive. Why is this important? Hypothetically we can assume that if the show has good characters,story,political mess,Stormtrooper episodes, and all the things that made the TCW good the first 2 seasons we can easily see season 3 giving us better quality. While I hate the current look of it there is room to improve, even after watching season 1 of TCW I thought it was stupid but there started being actual interesting episodes and I got past it.[/QUOTE]
Imho I think the issues aren't with reusing or not reusing content. The issues are with the animation which just looks bad.
The models look fine. The animation looks worse than something you'd find in quake3 though.
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;45889837]To be fair it usually only showed when they were facing off against someone really important, and even then it was only really obvious in episode IV. The rebels on Hoth and Endor get fucking wrecked and while the main characters can hold their own they're at least in some kind of danger. Even though Luke and Han cut through the Imperials like butter, you can at least get glimpses of how they managed to maintain galactic dominance for as long as they did. In most of the large-scale battles the rebels get torn to shreds, and they're the most competent force out there.
Point is, I don't think the Empire is gonna be treated right in this show. In the OT they were good but the heroes were better. Here I doubt they'll ever pose a legitimate threat to anyone.[/QUOTE]
Imho I want to see an early alliance ( Tharen's red hand for instance) fight it off with a competent empire. Hell you could push the red hand further, since they did often pretty much disregard the line between terrorist and freedom fighter.
[QUOTE=O'Neil;45879462]They do lots of stuff? Lots of novels have came out based around the Old Republic stuff.[/QUOTE]
don't get me wrong i love the novels but a full CGI tv series like the trailer would be fucking incredible in comparison to the shit we get now.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;45890819]Imho I want to see an early alliance ( Tharen's red hand for instance) fight it off with a competent empire. Hell you could push the red hand further, since they did often pretty much disregard the line between terrorist and freedom fighter.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see something from the Empire's point of view. Pretty much everything from the clones' point of view is both good and popular, and the stormtroopers didn't exclusively fight "the good guys." There were plenty of instances of stormies going head to head with the Hutt cartels or the Black Sun, and if I had to choose between the two I'd probably pick the Empire because they don't shank people in the streets. I'm not saying the stormtroopers should be portrayed as [I]right[/I] per se, but I'd definitely like to see their side of things.
Y'know, it's really weird to see this, because like, part of an overarching issue with Star Wars is it's inability to keep a consistent tone, and it's the only major sci fi franchise that really seems to have this struggle. So you've got the Original Trilogy which is pretty much for everyone, then the prequels which are for babies, then Episode III which is dark and edgy and mostly appeals to teenagers, then you've got all these little shitty prequel-related things for little babies, and a lot of serious things intended for older audiences, and both of them share legitimacy in the universe. It's jarring, the same franchise responsible for [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fcT5TRPK5l8#t=946]this (15:46)[/url] is also responsible for, well, this.
also even if this is for kids it sucks
A lot of modern cartoons show that you can get away with a lot of mature content whilst also appealing to kids. There's really no excuse why this show is show shitty. Plus, I dunno about anybody else but when I was a kid I thought the empire was awesome and I didn't give a huge shit about the rebels. Why would I want to watch my favorite side get completely destroyed by a bunch of teenagers?
[QUOTE=Jackald;45894217]Did they fucking draw that laser in paint?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/AlKxHFJ.jpg[/img]
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Compare it to this: which is by no means flawless, and has its own problems, but the sense of life and movement is so much better.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rWciV_WBh8[/media][/QUOTE]
I was gonna link this exact video.
Yeah, it's not perfect but the foley is amazing, the movement is interesting and it feels a lot more real than this stupid kid being a dick. It's obviously still aimed at kids which excuses most of my problems with it (like the troopers just doing stupid shit like dual wielding and running into the open to take down droids in buildings) but it's still cool.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;45895364]Y'know, it's really weird to see this, because like, part of an overarching issue with Star Wars is it's inability to keep a consistent tone, and it's the only major sci fi franchise that really seems to have this struggle. So you've got the Original Trilogy which is pretty much for everyone, then the prequels which are for babies, then Episode III which is dark and edgy and mostly appeals to teenagers, then you've got all these little shitty prequel-related things for little babies, and a lot of serious things intended for older audiences, and both of them share legitimacy in the universe. It's jarring, the same franchise responsible for [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fcT5TRPK5l8#t=946]this (15:46)[/url] is also responsible for, well, this.
also even if this is for kids it sucks[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing we can assume they had a bit more creative freedom with The Sith Lords. I mean that entire game literally deconstructs Star Wars pieces it together, while still giving this odd feeling that nothing and literally nothing is good in the galaxy and just about everything you do fucks someone up. Plus add to this, Star Trek is show about exploring space, encountering new and interesting races,species, political issues, etc. It's easy to keep going with that theme when most of your subject matter is very serious at times and keeps to it. Star Wars just happens to have an incredibly broad audience for anyone kid or elder to enjoy, I mean you got toys,video games, tv shows, and movies. The games just happening to have more of your darker subject matter because they have more creative license to do what they wish. TV Shows and Movies have kid audience in mind obviously because the channels they're on, like Cartoon Network and Disney XD, who are wanting kids to buy toys of the show rather than watch and enjoy which is why you got campy kids going campy and whack things. While movies and games tend to have the older audience in mind allowing them to take in the story,action, and character more than just watching it to see fights and get toys of the movie. It's not a set series aimed for a niche audience Star Wars is literally one of the most main stream sci-fi series behind Star Trek you can assume it'll look weird and all over the place trying to appeal to all audience instead of sci-fi nerds,fans,etc.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;45888162]GIVE ME BACK MY FUCKING CLONE WARS[/QUOTE]
They should have at least finished it before ending it
[QUOTE=Jackald;45894217]
Compare it to this: which is by no means flawless, and has its own problems, but the sense of life and movement is so much better.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rWciV_WBh8[/media][/QUOTE]
I actually like this art style, it reminds me of Samurai Jack for some reason.
so bad
Still not as bad as SW Detours
[QUOTE=Laputa;45898250]Still not as bad as SW Detours[/QUOTE]
Did that even get to air? I heard it got canned in the wake of Disney's buyout. I didn't pay attention, so I don't even know if it went to series.
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