Future serial killer puts mouse and snake in a maze whilst laughing. "Yes, yes I'm so happy" said wh - General

[QUOTE=dannass;41041053]uhh, YES? You shouldn't play with death, even if it's just a mouse. Feed the snake to keep it alive, don't be a fucking asshole and scare the shit out of the mouse before killing it. It should be quick and painless. And i know, he would be scared if you were just throwing him into a cage with the snake, but damn. Can't you see how fucked up this is?[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.badhaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/kids.jpg[/img] There is quite a firm difference in "playing with death" (I.E. torturing something to see how long it lasts before it dies, or finding interesting ways to kill something.) and trying different methods to [b]feed a pet[/b]. A mouse would die regardless of how it was fed to a mouse, why do you make such a deal about it because someone wants to try something they considering amusing?

[QUOTE=AaronM202;41041080]You realize this happens in the wild right? [editline]14th June 2013[/editline] Literally thousands of times every single day.[/QUOTE] I didn't know mice were placed in humanly made mazes for amusement happend in the wild, sorry.

[QUOTE=dannass;41041053]uhh, YES? You shouldn't play with death, even if it's just a mouse. Feed the snake to keep it alive, don't be a fucking asshole and scare the shit out of the mouse before killing it. It should be quick and painless. And i know, he would be scared if you were just throwing him into a cage with the snake, but damn. Can't you see how fucked up this is?[/QUOTE] no, fucked up is the civil war in Syria. this is harmless. it's a mouse, getting eaten by a snake. literally everyone I know who owns a snake feeds them live feeder mice. it sucks for the mice, but... y'know... this is how snakes do in the wild...

[QUOTE=Cureless;41041089] You don't happen to be a "right to life-er" do you?[/QUOTE] Please dont bring that argument into this thread, it'll just cause a whole new batch of shit.

[QUOTE=Cureless;41041089][img]http://www.badhaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/kids.jpg[/img] You don't happen to be a "right to life-er" do you?[/QUOTE] "feed it to the snake to keep it alive" answer is no.

[QUOTE=dannass;41041096]I didn't know mice were placed in humanly made mazes for amusement happend in the wild, sorry.[/QUOTE] Im sorry you didnt know snakes hunt mice in the wild and this is how nature works. Is it a little strange? Yes. Cruel? No.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;41041097]no, fucked up is the civil war in Syria. this is harmless. it's a mouse, getting eaten by a snake. literally everyone I know who owns a snake feeds them live feeder mice. it sucks for the mice, but... y'know... this is how snakes do in the wild...[/QUOTE] I agree, but how the hell is this related to syria? I just find it cruel. And it is. Not feeding the mice, i understand that. But putting it through a maze, scaring the shit out of it is not something i would've done.

[QUOTE=dannass;41041127]I agree, but how the hell is this related to syria? I just find it cruel. And it is. Not feeding the mice, i understand that. But putting it through a maze, scaring the shit out of it is not something i would've done.[/QUOTE] How is it cruel? This shit happens in the wild everyday, its how nature works.

[QUOTE=dannass;41041127]I agree, but how the hell is this related to syria? I just find it cruel. And it is. Not feeding the mice, i understand that. But putting it through a maze, scaring the shit out of it is not something i would've done.[/QUOTE] it's literally no different than dropping the mouse into a snake's cage, the mouse if anything had a better chance of evading the snake in the maze.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;41041134]How is it cruel? This shit happens in the wild everyday, its how nature works.[/QUOTE] I would've shit my mouse-pants if i were put in a maze, finding a snake tail, and then stare the snake in the face before he fucking wrestled me around. It happens in nature, sure. But that maze construction is just cruel.

[QUOTE=dannass;41041156]I would've shit my mouse-pants if i were put in a maze, finding a snake tail, and then stare the snake in the face before he fucking wrestled me around. It happens in nature, sure. [b]But that maze construction is just cruel.[/b][/QUOTE] [b]How.[/b] Dude its just a couple of walls, its like a mouse running into a snake in a tunnel or a pipe.

[QUOTE=dannass;41041156]I would've shit my mouse-pants if i were put in a maze, finding a snake tail, and then stare the snake in the face before he fucking wrestled me around. It happens in nature, sure. But that maze construction is just cruel.[/QUOTE] because its any worse to just be upfront and plain give the mouse to the snake Jesus Christ people, just because he does it a little differently than just giving it to the snake all of a sudden he's a terrible monster you people have some fucked up "Morals" if you actually think this is an issue. There's a billion things worse he could have done... like, you know... step on the mouse, dissect it, etc. But just because its slightly "Cruel" he's a giant asshole psychopath. hell, he's just making it at least a little more fun. Boo hoo. If this is "Future serial killer" material to people then I wonder what a man beheading a dog with a pen and watching the dog slowly bleed to death as they grin must look like to you. Grow up. (I'm not telling you specifically to grow up, but, OP suret does)

[QUOTE=AaronM202;41041172][b]How.[/b] Dude its just a couple of walls, its like a mouse running into a snake in a tunnel or a pipe.[/QUOTE] oh for fuck sakes.. YES! I UNDERSTAND this shit happens in nature, but this was made by humans for the sole purpose to play cat and mouse with a snake. Which means they are playing with it, playing with the death of a living being. For me, that's cruel. And i'm sorry that you can't see it.

I really did not expect this to turn into a debate :v:

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[QUOTE=dannass;41041212]oh for fuck sakes.. YES! I UNDERSTAND this shit happens in nature, but this was made by humans for the sole purpose to play cat and mouse with a snake. Which means they are playing with it, playing with the death of a living being. For me, that's cruel. And i'm sorry that you can't see it.[/QUOTE] It's a mouse that is bought as nothing but snake food. And as said, theres a billion things he could have done that is way more cruel.

[QUOTE=J!NX;41041251]It's a mouse that is bought as nothing but snake food. And as said, theres a billion things he could have done that is way more cruel.[/QUOTE] I'm really exaggerating here but that's like saying john wayne gacy wasn't that cruel, he could've done billion more stuff to their bodies that are so much more crueler. Bad example, i'm not calling this snake dude a serial killer.

[QUOTE=dannass;41041296]I'm really exaggerating here but that's like saying john wayne gacy wasn't that cruel, he could've done billion more stuff to their bodies that are so much more crueler.[/QUOTE] Next you'll be saying "What if he put you in there" fucking don't that wasn't even the point, you obviously don't get it Tell me do you eat meat? because the way your meat is treated is just as bad, if not worse than this.

I feel kinda sorry for the mouse, but hey, that's nature. It could be argued as cruel, but it's providing mental stimulation for the snake. It's more beneficial for the snake this way, and at the end of the day, it's the snake who will be alive at the end. It is a quick death too, because non-poisonous snakes rely on this so it's prey can't bite it/Get free. [editline]15th June 2013[/editline] Also, notice the complete lack of squealing? Trust me, if the mouse would have squealed like hell if was alive for more then a few milliseconds.

[QUOTE=J!NX;41041307]Next you'll be saying "What if he put you in there" fucking don't that wasn't even the point, you obviously don't get it Tell me do you eat meat? because the way your meat is treated is just as bad, if not worse than this.[/QUOTE] I eat meat, that wouldn't be unnatural if not.

[QUOTE=dannass;41041352]I eat meat, that wouldn't be unnatural if not.[/QUOTE] Then what's the issue? Animals suffered to feed you. You obviously are fine with that, and I eat that way tons and tons as well. But you have a choice (But I won't go into that pseudo moral bullshit about humans are horrible and should never eat meat). Snakes don't. and so what if they're making it slightly fun? Yes, 'playing with death' is very odd, but its no more cruel than what cows get, or just feeding it plain. In the end yeah it is a little more cruel but it's not even that much more cruel.

Jesus guys, how many of you have actually owned a snake before? Snakes eat mice, its just how it is. Changing it from just putting the mouse in the cage with the snake to putting the mouse in a maze with the snake doesn't make him a serial killer, or mentally disturbed. Yeah, it can be a little uneasy to watch, but if you've ever owned a snake you'd probably realize this isn't that bad.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;41041036]Nature being Nature is cruel. Okay. [editline]14th June 2013[/editline] Im sorry but you do know snakes eat mice in the wild, right? And this mouse was bought for the sole purpose of being fed to a snake, right?[/QUOTE]It's in an artificial maze made by humans, that's not natural at all. [QUOTE=Protocol7;41040915]so instead of feeding the mouse to the snake outright, putting it in a maze and getting a chuckle out of it is cruel hmm okay[/QUOTE]Yes, yes it fucking is, you're watching another living thing suffer and you get a chuckle out of that? You're pretty fucked up in the head if you think that shit is entertaining or funny. [editline]14th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=AaronM202;41041080]You realize this happens in the wild right? [editline]14th June 2013[/editline] Literally thousands of times every single day.[/QUOTE]Not at all in this way.

[QUOTE=Killer900;41041556]It's in an artificial maze made by humans, that's not natural at all. Yes, yes it fucking is, you're watching another living thing suffer and you get a chuckle out of that? You're pretty fucked up in the head if you think that shit is entertaining or funny.[/QUOTE] If you think this shit is bad, then stop eating meat. The treatment is FAR worse than this. By eating meat, you are contributing to animals suffering worse than this. Meanwhile I'll enjoy myself to a burger and watch this. Though, it wasn't even really entertaining to me. I don't see how anyone can think its "Funny".

[QUOTE=Killer900;41041556]It's in an artificial maze made by humans, that's not natural at all. [editline]14th June 2013[/editline] Not at all in this way.[/QUOTE] Depends on the environment, it could completely be like that in certain areas.

[QUOTE=J!NX;41041561]If you think this shit is bad, then stop eating meat. The treatment is FAR worse than this. Meanwhile I'll enjoy myself.[/QUOTE]That process that meat undergoes in facilities is for the sole purpose of food for the masses, and yeah I know that the way they undergo those processes are very messed up, questionable, and inhumane, but just because that's the case (which we're trying to change), does that makes it ok for a bunch of chucklefucks to construct a maze and have fun watching another living thing try and fight to survive? Animals that we grow up and kill for the sole purposes of feeding us SHOULD be raised well and killed humanely (which again I know this isn't the case today). If you're feeding your pet snake find a way to kill it quickly and as painlessly as possible, then feed it, it shouldn't need to suffer like that whilst under human supervision. [QUOTE=AaronM202;41041615]Depends on the environment, it could completely be like that in certain areas.[/QUOTE]Yeah depends on the NATURAL environment, but this isn't natural, it's artificial, if it's just a natural occurrence then yeah I agree with you, but not in this case.

[QUOTE=Killer900;41041671] Yeah depends on the NATURAL environment, but this isn't natural, it's artificial, if it's just a natural occurrence then yeah I agree with you, but not in this case.[/QUOTE] Its not a natural environment but this happens in nature.

[QUOTE=Killer900;41041556]Yes, yes it fucking is, you're watching another living thing suffer and you get a chuckle out of that? You're pretty fucked up in the head if you think that shit is entertaining or funny. [/QUOTE] I'm a mentally disturbed person because watching a snake kill a live mouse is entertaining How do you take yourself seriously haha

[QUOTE=Killer900;41041671]That process that meat undergoes in facilities is for the sole purpose of food for the masses, and yeah I know that the way they undergo those processes are very messed up, questionable, and inhumane, but just because that's the case (which we're trying to change), does that makes it ok for a bunch of chucklefucks to construct a maze and have fun watching another living thing try and fight to survive? Animals that we grow up and kill for the sole purposes of feeding us SHOULD be raised well and killed humanely (which again I know this isn't the case today). If you're feeding your pet snake find a way to kill it quickly and as painlessly as possible, then feed it, it shouldn't need to suffer like that whilst under human supervision. Yeah depends on the NATURAL environment, but this isn't natural, it's artificial, if it's just a natural occurrence then yeah I agree with you, but not in this case.[/QUOTE] you do realize cattle are not killed naturally right because thats what happens... you do realize this, yes? and you do realize snakes aren't naturally pets, and it's artificial automatically because they made a made? Holy shit dude, just, wow.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;41041754]I'm a mentally disturbed person because watching a snake kill a live mouse is entertaining How do you take yourself seriously haha[/QUOTE]Just a little yes