• h3h3 is a huge hypocrite
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[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52691651]I don't mean to call him a nazi but honestly if you say that enough that it accidentally flies out of your mouth reflexively there's a good chance you've been saying it too often.[/QUOTE] its almost as if he had a youtube channel where he yelled out faggot and rape and all types of slurs for years because he was an idiot catering to a 13 year old audience. Like, he apologized for it right afterward, and I'm pretty sure he's never said it much before. but no he said nigger once he's a nazi!
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52691651]I don't mean to call him a nazi but honestly if you say that enough that it accidentally flies out of your mouth reflexively there's a good chance you've been saying it too often.[/QUOTE] I mean, you can call him a racist at best, I would disagree with you however, as I really think it's clear he isn't despite the fact that he used a racist term as an insult, it's one of those things people do sometimes, use an extremely insulting word in the heat of the moment to insult someone with, but a [I]nazi?[/I] Wtf are you talking about.
are people really getting offended by him saying nigger? it isnt rocket science to know it was an accident, its called having common sense. everyone has these moments, there's no 'subconcious' bullshit or ulterior motive for him saying it for god sake, stop trying to get offended for no reason.
Unless he's a secret member of the KKK or something, I don't think pewdiepie is racist. Just said something stupid without thinking. Most of us got these moments where we say something we regret.
It's like, all these armchair psychologists love to come out of the wood work and pick apart a simple mistake on his part, it's honestly quite hilarious. Oh, he said it once, that must mean he says it all of the time, which also means he's a secret racist, which ALSO means he's actually a neo-nazi. Like, the leaps of logic it takes to get from one to the other is just mindbogglingly insane. [editline]edit[/editline] Like this isn't Jontron levels of "I want to keep the white race pure" this is just a guy who said one bad word, in the millions he's used during his career.
I think its weird how h3h3 is so against pewdiepie now when im pretty sure he was defending 'blacks are inferior' jontron earlier, unless im mistaken
[QUOTE=sourcegamer101;52691691]are people really getting offended by him saying nigger? it isnt rocket science to know it was an accident, its called having common sense. everyone has these moments, there's no 'subconcious' bullshit or ulterior motive for him saying it for god sake, stop trying to get offended for no reason.[/QUOTE] I mean maybe when i was 14 but i cant recall using nigger accidentally in my adult life
[QUOTE=Naught;52691716]I think its weird how h3h3 is so against pewdiepie now when im pretty sure he was defending 'blacks are inferior' jontron earlier, unless im mistaken[/QUOTE] This is one of the things that really puzzles me. The Youtube community seemed measurably more uncomfortable with Pewdiepie blurting out the word nigger in a heat of the moment thing then issuing a pretty sincere apology than they were with the far more elaborate and premeditated bullshit that Jontron spouted followed by a total non-apology. Somewhat a sad reflection of the current political climate in general.
[QUOTE=sourcegamer101;52691691]are people really getting offended by him saying nigger? it isnt rocket science to know it was an accident, i[B]ts called having common sense. everyone has these moments[/B], there's no 'subconcious' bullshit or ulterior motive for him saying it for god sake, stop trying to get offended for no reason.[/QUOTE] What kind of defense is this? When was the last time you accidentally yelled "nigger" out of frustration? Do you really think this is normal? [QUOTE=Naught;52691716]I think its weird how h3h3 is so against pewdiepie now when im pretty sure he was defending 'blacks are inferior' jontron earlier, unless im mistaken[/QUOTE] Do you know where h3h3 defended Jontron? I'm not doubting you but I don't remember that and I'd really like to know what they thought about that particular fiasco.
I think there's a moderate medium where you can disapprove of, even be personally offended or upset about what Felix said and then move on and care about more important things in life.
Cause that's what I'd like the media and people to do, move on.
[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;52691762]What kind of defense is this? When was the last time you accidentally yelled "nigger" out of frustration? Do you really think this is normal?.[/QUOTE] Like I've already said, it's one of those things people do sometimes, use an extremely insulting word in the heat of the moment to insult someone with. I've had it happen to me before plenty of times, people call me everything under the sun, that doesn't make them secret racists, homophobes, sexists, etc, they just want to use insults that sting.
I don't want to assume Pewds is a racist, but "nigger" is such an odd word to shout during the "heat of the moment", especially for someone who is aware of it's weight in the Americas. 90% of my humor is just tasteless racist shit, especially towards my own race (black), and such terms never come to my mind during an intense moment. Always stuff like "asshole" and "shit", the usual. [QUOTE=Naught;52691716]I think its weird how h3h3 is so against pewdiepie now when im pretty sure he was defending 'blacks are inferior' jontron earlier, unless im mistaken[/QUOTE] But to give Jontron a pass but not him is dumb as fuck. He just shouted "nigger" then apologized for it while making no excuses for himself and acknowledged that it was an offensive term. Jon went out of his way to argue for some YouTube skeptic/red pill garbage then went on to make an "I'm sorry my uncomfortable statistics upset you" video.
[QUOTE=AbioFlesh;52691773]I don't want to assume Pewds is a racist, but "nigger" is such an odd word to shout during the "heat of the moment", especially for someone who is aware of it's weight in the Americas.[/QUOTE] Sometimes you aren't always aware in the heat of the moment, that's why it's called the heat of the moment. You can clearly see after saying it that he knew he'd said something clearly insulting, but before that, it just comes out because he wanted to insult someone with something that would cut deep.
[QUOTE=Rufia;52691761]This is one of the things that really puzzles me. The Youtube community seemed measurably more uncomfortable with Pewdiepie blurting out the word nigger in a heat of the moment thing then issuing a pretty sincere apology than they were with the far more elaborate and premeditated bullshit that Jontron spouted followed by a total non-apology. Somewhat a sad reflection of the current political climate in general.[/QUOTE] Pewdiepie has around 54 million more subscribers than Jontron, he has a lot more eyes on him so a lot more people react when he does something.
[QUOTE=jonu67;52691776]Sometimes you aren't always aware in the heat of the moment, that's why it's called the heat of the moment. You can clearly see after saying it that he knew he'd said something clearly insulting, but before that, it just comes out because he wanted to insult someone with something that would cut deep.[/QUOTE] He was talking to the audience, the guy he said nigger to didnt even know he was saying it. I dont think pdp is a racist but i think hes a massive idiot for saying "nigger" instead of "asshole"
I think you can say that PDP most likely isn't a racist just because he used the word nigger as an insult and still admit that using the word nigger as an insult is not something most people do.
While theres a lot to disagree on with this guy he did point out one thing i kind of agree is a little fucked up in Ethan saying he "was doing so good" as if he were in the process of redeeming himself from some past action when Ethan of all people knows how fraudulent those claims were.
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;52691744]I mean maybe when i was 14 but i cant recall using nigger accidentally in my adult life[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=BelatedGamer;52691762]What kind of defense is this? When was the last time you accidentally yelled "nigger" out of frustration? Do you really think this is normal? [/QUOTE] i should have clarified. when i said "everyone has these moments", it was meant to come across as "everybody at one point has let the wrong word slip out, whether bad or good". not just nigger exclusively. come on, i thought you guys would understand still, my point stands
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;52691806]He was talking to the audience, the guy he said nigger to didnt even know he was saying it. I dont think pdp is a racist but i think hes a massive idiot for saying "nigger" instead of "asshole"[/QUOTE] Oh no, don't get me wrong, he's obviously stupid for saying it, but like, some people are different, some people speak without thinking, some people don't have a filter and some people use extremely insulting words as throw away insults, but for most of those people the intended meaning is to insult the intended target with a taboo term, because it's an effective insult, people aren't going to give a shit when you throw around the small insults, but they do when you use the larger ones. Like I can't count the times I've played a game and been called a faggot and I'm sure Pewds has said that at SOME point as well and that's just as bad as nigger to me, given I'm a homosexual, but like, people use these things more for shock value than anything else.
[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;52691762] Do you know where h3h3 defended Jontron? I'm not doubting you but I don't remember that and I'd really like to know what they thought about that particular fiasco.[/QUOTE] he defended him by not going after him. Not only did he 'like' jon's response video on twitter where he didn't go back on anything he said (jon doesnt regret anything that he said and does hold those /pol/ style views, he said it himself), but he also talked about how he wasn't going to bring up the argument at all. And thats because he's friends with jon and not big friends with pewdiepie. Even though jon said some extremely hateful and disturbing things. He basically ignored the whole thing even though he constantly talked shit about people like joey salads for the same thing in the past. He's supposed to be the guy who puts shit out in the open, but conveniently didn't cover anything from jontron. That's as bad as defending him because he justifies his views by doing that and not even just saying something bad about it on twitter.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52691856]You need to take a chill pill, I said "he's not a nazi".[/QUOTE] No you didn't say that actually and if you did, you worded it entirely incorrectly as it's easily misconstrued, "I don't mean to call him a nazi [I]but[/I]"
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;52691766]Cause that's what I'd like the media and people to do, move on.[/QUOTE] I wish that could happen, but there's a significant camp that keeps dismissing the incident by insisting that yelling a racist word isn't racist. It can be argue for days whether PewDiePie is an actual racist or not (but let's face it, if that word is your go to pick, you probably have racist tendencies), but there's no way around the fact that this was racist. [QUOTE=jonu67;52691769]Like I've already said, it's one of those things people do sometimes, use an extremely insulting word in the heat of the moment to insult someone with. I've had it happen to me before plenty of times, people call me everything under the sun, that doesn't make them secret racists, homophobes, sexists, etc, they just want to use insults that sting.[/QUOTE] "Heat of the moment" my ass, the word isn't just insulting, it's [i]hateful[/i]. You can't equate it with other expletives because those words don't have strong historic ties to violence and oppression. Letting PewDiePie completely off the hook just reinforces the idea that it's okay to say shit like this.
[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;52691880]You can't equate it with other expletives because those words don't have strong historic ties to violence and oppression.[/QUOTE] I mean, I've already stated one example, in faggot, a word that has ties to violence and oppression for an even smaller minority of people who's rights to this day are still being curtailed, I being one of them, it's not a contest however. And said word is used left right and centre by a lot of people more so as a general insult, at least in the gaming world as more of a direct insult for the person in question than as a hateful expletive and while I dislike it, as I've said, people want to use insults that sting, and Pewds has said a LOT of them in his time.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52691914]you can't have a discussion if both parties don't have the good faith to actually take peoples arguments at their most sensible interpretation, you just have two sides talking past each other. Like if a post doesn't make sense to you at first, instead of getting outraged take a sec to read to front to back instead of just going for that juicy long hanging fruit that isn't even there.[/QUOTE] Your post made sense, it just made sense in the wrong direction as to what you wanted to imply.
It's always about context. Some of his points have merit and I definitely see how H3H3 is being somewhat hypocritical, but he goes a little too far dissecting for it like when he starts critiquing the ironic 'Ask a Black Man' segment which is not really equivalent. And then he claims anyone who criticizes PewDiePie to be "ruining the site". People expressing their thoughts and/or being offended is "freedom of speech" too.
[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;52691880]I wish that could happen, but there's a significant camp that keeps dismissing the incident by insisting that yelling a racist word isn't racist. It can be argue for days whether PewDiePie is an actual racist or not (but let's face it, if that word is your go to pick, you probably have racist tendencies), but there's no way around the fact that this was racist.[/QUOTE] I mean yeah, it means either he has racist tendencies, hangs out in racist circles or it could not mean any of that. Doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;52691490]The context is what bugs me. If PewDiePie had said "nigger" as an obvious joke, like when Ethan jokingly says "nigger faggot", that would be one thing. But the fact that he just blurted it out as an insult, apparently as the first thing that came into his head, really bugs me. Like I don't know much about PewDiePie but I've never seen anyone blurt "nigger" like that unless it's something they regularly say. I'm not saying he's racist, but the whole situation is uncomfortable.[/QUOTE] A lot of people in online gaming say nigger a lot like it's nothing so it's pretty easy to just blurt it out once you get use to saying it
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52691937]I'm going to be honest I genuinely don't ever know what conclusion you drew. [/QUOTE] It's not exactly hard to grasp, you said "I don't mean to call him a "Insert word here" [I]but[/I]" Like, it's an implication, I don't [I]mean[/I] to call him a nazi, but because he said this, I may, it's poor vocabulary on your part tbh and it's pretty obvious more than just me and Kiwi were confused by it.
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with blurting it out. While it could be viewed as an attack on a person, which is the worst current use of it, this instance wasn't contextual. If enough people continue to use it this way, it will lose its meaning further and just become a standard vulgar word rather than something people should consider racism. [QUOTE=Big Bang;52691201]Pewdiepie is not one of the biggest channels in Youtube, like fucking really?[/QUOTE] I didn't watch the video at all because it's absurdly long, but doesn't the channel have more subscribers than any other channel? 57 million.
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