[QUOTE=mchapra;52277695]whenever the college thing comes up i just think of this:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZYIqJ7D.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
dril is always right about everything.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52278043]Buddhism -> New Atheism -> Greek Paganism -> [B]Orthodox[/B]?
That's a... journey lol. [/QUOTE]
No [I]It's way longer[/I]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)] Independent or "Free Zone" Scientology[/url] and maybe "Independent" Wicca is two of my short-lived religious beliefs.
First two Christian denominations (That I was raised interfaithly until my preteens) -> Independent/Free Zone Scientologist -> Vajrayana/Tibetian Buddhist? (Atheism - de facto) -> Atheist -> "Independent" Wiccan -> Hellenist/Hellenic (Greek) Neopaganism -> [Maybe Orthodox or "created new religious movement that mostly based from Furry subculture"]*/ N/A / "Not interest coverting to other religion by this point"
* (Not converting to "Western" Orthodox yet (and only depends if I want myself 'Confirmed' between the mid-40s to 60s) but only respect faith like their traditions (Christo-mysticism, Hymns, Good History with Christian Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire as examples))
it's really telling that thunderfoots videos on trump and brexit (both of which he opposes) have the most downvotes out of any of his videos
turns out when all you do is talk about how crazy those sjw's are you cultivate a certain toxic audience
[QUOTE=Camdude90;52275316][media]https://twitter.com/InnerPartisan/status/846595230451355649[/media]
this tweet still rings true to this day[/QUOTE]
One will protect you, the other 3 will try to kill you. Choose wisely.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;52275835]1) It's a joke
2) It's a joke
3) It's a joke
4) It's a joke with a point. Deflecting and acting like horseshoe politics isn't a thing because "America doesn't have a leftist party" is absolutely asinine. Here's a fun picture of the poster-boys for each end of the horse shoe:
[t]http://68.media.tumblr.com/40ab3e1204fa5272ee3a291899f66917/tumblr_nhtxx3ucDh1t43e29o1_1280.jpg[/t]
They're totally different, right?[/QUOTE]
umm
yes?
There are similarities, primarily coming from both of your examples being extremely authoritarian which is a completely different thing, entirely separate from the concepts of left or right wing politics. But they're also extremely different.
[QUOTE=ChadMcGoatMan;52278458]No [I]It's way longer[/I]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)] Independent or "Free Zone" Scientology[/url] and maybe "Independent" Wicca is two of my short-lived religious beliefs.
First two Christian denominations (That was raised) -> Independent/Free Zone Scientologist -> Vajrayana/Tibetian Buddhist? (Atheism - de facto) -> Atheist -> "Independent" Wiccan -> Hellenist/Hellenic (Greek) Neopaganism -> [Maybe Orthodox]*/ N/A / "Not interest coverting to other religion by this point"
* (Not converting to "Western" Orthodox yet (and only depends if I want myself 'Confirmed' between the mid-40s to 60s) but only respect faith like their traditions (Christo-mysticism, Hymns, Good History with Christian Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire as examples))[/QUOTE]
Wow, I think we may have had a few similar experiences. I am currently an agnostic/atheist but I was also a Wiccan for a while.
My journey:
Syriac Orthodox Christianity (was born into it) -> Wicca -> random occult beliefs -> back to Orthodox Christianity -> slowly lost all religious beliefs and became an agnostic/atheist -> LaVeyan Satanist -> agnostic/atheist but with some spiritual beliefs from Hinduism and Buddhism -> back to LaVeyan Satanism -> agnostic atheist with no spiritual beliefs.
Just have to clarify that I no longer agree with the ideas in LaVeyan Satanism.
Also, for people who have never heard of LaVeyan Satanism; it has nothing to do with devil worship or anything religious; it is just a philosophy (most of it's followers are atheists or at most diests), but I no longer agree with the ideas in that philosophy.
[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;52278891]Wow, I think we may have had a few similar experiences. I am currently an agnostic/atheist but I was also a Wiccan for a while.
My journey:
Syriac Orthodox Christianity (was born into it) -> Wicca -> random occult beliefs -> back to Orthodox Christianity -> slowly lost all religious beliefs and became an agnostic/atheist -> LaVeyan Satanist -> agnostic/atheist but with some spiritual beliefs from Hinduism and Buddhism -> back to LaVeyan Satanism -> agnostic atheist with no spiritual beliefs.
Just have to clarify that I no longer agree with the ideas in LaVeyan Satanism.
Also, for people who have never heard of LaVeyan Satanism; it has nothing to do with devil worship or anything religious; it is just a philosophy (most of it's followers are atheists or at most diests), but I no longer agree with the ideas in that philosophy.[/QUOTE]
What all within ten years?
And you describe that LaVeyan is just Atheistic Libertarian Satanism.
[QUOTE=ChadMcGoatMan;52279060]What all within ten years?
And you describe that LaVeyan is just Atheistic Libertarian Satanism.[/QUOTE]Well, the period when I was into Wicca and other occult stuff was a very short period of my life when I was 13; it only lasted several months, then I went back to Christianity and stayed a Christian for 5 more years. I started to really question my Christian faith when I was 18 and I abandoned religion a year later. The rest of my journey went on from there.
[QUOTE=Camdude90;52275316][media]https://twitter.com/InnerPartisan/status/846595230451355649[/media]
this tweet still rings true to this day[/QUOTE]
I don't recognize any of these people
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;52277092]I like armoured sceptic[/QUOTE]
Yikes
[QUOTE=elowin;52278578]umm
yes?
There are similarities, primarily coming from both of your examples being extremely authoritarian which is a completely different thing, entirely separate from the concepts of left or right wing politics. But they're also extremely different.[/QUOTE]
And yet somehow, without fail, "far right" and "far left" have time and again become authoritarian. Not really a coincidence. Hence the horseshoe.
[QUOTE=KillRay;52279258]Yikes[/QUOTE]
Yeah, yikes, what a fucking nutjob. Look at all the shit he argues about/with
1: flat earthers yelling about the globe being fake
2: mgtows being weird creepos
3: christians that argue that athiests are dumb and delusional
4: global warming deniers
5: the nuttiest, craziest feminists
Clearly a person who belongs in an insane asylum/prison!!
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;52280040]Yeah, yikes, what a fucking nutjob. Look at all the shit he argues about/with
1: flat earthers yelling about the globe being fake
2: mgtows being weird creepos
3: christians that argue that athiests are dumb and delusional
4: global warming deniers
5: the nuttiest, craziest feminists
Clearly a person who belongs in an insane asylum/prison!![/QUOTE]
Yikes
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;52279286]And yet somehow, without fail, "far right" and "far left" have time and again become authoritarian. Not really a coincidence. Hence the horseshoe.[/QUOTE]
Except that's a load of bollocks?
Or at least, I wasn't aware that all the very left leaning Scandinavian countries were now suddenly authoritarian dictatorships. Which would be pretty strange since I live in one of them.
Meanwhile, places such as say, the vast swathes of land currently controlled by ISIS are pretty damn authoritarian, despite not fitting into the left or right wing.
Also, the Nazi party actually had a lot of very left wing ideas. Hell, Hitler fucking hated capitalism.
Could it be that the correlation might not be between the left/right and authoritarianism, but between authoritarianism and extremism? Gasp, what a revolutionary thought. Oh wait no we've known this for ages.
[QUOTE=elowin;52280723]Hell, Hitler fucking hated capitalism. [/QUOTE]
This is a misconception. Nazi economic policy sold off the vast majority of property nationalized under the German Empire and Weimar Republic to large German business. Additionally, those actually proclaiming themselves to be anti-capitalist (The Strassers are the ones that I immediately know of) within the Nazi party were killed off and run out of the country in purges.
I really can't buy that Hitler was some bizarre anti-capitalist figure when his party, without exception, crushed anything that stood in the way of preserving 'traditional German economics', including but not limited to trade unions, and he even abandoned traditional Fascist economic positions of corporatism and class collaboration to keep German capitalism untouched. Hitler, and totalitarians in general for that matter, frequently said they supported one, usually popular position, then did the exact opposite to consolidate power.
i wish i got paid to ramble on about bullshit, have a still image of something from history and say SJW in every sentence
[QUOTE=elowin;52280723]Except that's a load of bollocks?
Or at least, I wasn't aware that all the very left leaning Scandinavian countries were now suddenly authoritarian dictatorships. Which would be pretty strange since I live in one of them.
Meanwhile, places such as say, the vast swathes of land currently controlled by ISIS are pretty damn authoritarian, despite not fitting into the left or right wing.
Also, the Nazi party actually had a lot of very left wing ideas. Hell, Hitler fucking hated capitalism.
Could it be that the correlation might not be between the left/right and authoritarianism, but between authoritarianism and extremism? Gasp, what a revolutionary thought. Oh wait no we've known this for ages.[/QUOTE]
Scandinavian countries aren't "far left" though?
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;52281047]Wanna actually elaborate?[/QUOTE]
He's an alt-right troll that only makes videos about feminist strawmen /s
[QUOTE=Kljunas;52281121]Scandinavian countries aren't "far left" though?[/QUOTE]
It's pretty damn left leaning.
Free single-payer health care system, free education including higher educations, pretty strong welfare policies, we're some of the most extremely environmentalist nations on earth, big on equal rights, most of us hate the very concept of nationalism, and generally we put emphasis on the community over individuals.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;52281047]Wanna actually elaborate?[/QUOTE]
well i don't know what the armored skeptic is about, but the dude said "yikes" and you responded with "clearly a person who belongs in an insane asylum/prison" which is a pretty big ｓｔｒａｗｍａｎ
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52281228]well i don't know what the armored skeptic is about, but the dude said "yikes" and you responded with "clearly a person who belongs in an insane asylum/prison" which is a pretty big ｓｔｒａｗｍａｎ[/QUOTE]
Well that's a problem with low-effort, one-word replies isn't it?
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;52281241]Well that's a problem with low-effort, one-word replies isn't it?[/QUOTE]
if you assume "yikes" means "lock him up in a fucking asylum" that's your own damn fault
[QUOTE=SuperPlamz;52280988]This is a misconception. Nazi economic policy sold off the vast majority of property nationalized under the German Empire and Weimar Republic to large German business. Additionally, those actually proclaiming themselves to be anti-capitalist (The Strassers are the ones that I immediately know of) within the Nazi party were killed off and run out of the country in purges.
I really can't buy that Hitler was some bizarre anti-capitalist figure when his party, without exception, crushed anything that stood in the way of preserving 'traditional German economics', including but not limited to trade unions, and he even abandoned traditional Fascist economic positions of corporatism and class collaboration to keep German capitalism untouched. Hitler, and totalitarians in general for that matter, frequently said they supported one, usually popular position, then did the exact opposite to consolidate power.[/QUOTE]
You're not wrong, that's how their actual policy ended up especially towards the end of the war, but Hitler still personally disliked capitalism. It turns out that wartime is not the best time to try and apply your revolutionary ideology, especially when you're coming right out of a massive recession.
Most of the policies of the late Nazi Germany were very much panicked attempts at salvaging the country.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52281342]if you assume "yikes" means "lock him up in a fucking asylum" that's your own damn fault[/QUOTE]
Well then what [I]is[/I] "yikes" supposed to mean in the context of "I like <X>", where X is not nazis, racism, preventing the gays to marry, and so on?
What a fucking nitpick. Would it have made you feel better if I said "this makes him paramount to /r/incel, alex jones, and Nazis simultaneously!" In my sarcastic argument? Way to miss the forest for the trees, bucko.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;52281667]Well then what [I]is[/I] "yikes" supposed to mean in the context of "I like <X>", where X is not nazis, racism, preventing the gays to marry, and so on?
What a fucking nitpick. Would it have made you feel better if I said "this makes him paramount to /r/incel, alex jones, and Nazis simultaneously!" In my sarcastic argument? Way to miss the forest for the trees, bucko.[/QUOTE]
i mean, it's quite the list. personally i'd assume it means "i don't like this guy" or "he's terrible" or "you've got bad taste". they're all a lot more reasonable than "send him to prison", plus they make you sound like an adult instead of an overly defensive fanboy. but you think what you want to think. i'm done derailing the thread over your inability to interact with humans
[QUOTE=elowin;52281537]You're not wrong, that's how their actual policy ended up especially towards the end of the war, but Hitler still personally disliked capitalism. It turns out that wartime is not the best time to try and apply your revolutionary ideology, especially when you're coming right out of a massive recession.
Most of the policies of the late Nazi Germany were very much panicked attempts at salvaging the country.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking specifically about their pre-war policies, though. Hitler made no attempt at any point to significantly modify the German economic system, but rather protected it as is. I can't exactly believe this was a pragmatic retreat from ideology when he outright had those pushing for what he apparently supported killed in the night of the long knives, and a great deal of his quotes on economic matters feature some form of "we must protect private property", which is consistent with his actions.
Fascists claiming to be anti-capitalist was moreso a means of fascist propaganda of the time, due to the relative popularity and size of socialist movements of the era. Mussolini claimed the same things, yet performed economic actions quite similar to that of Hitler, having only performed nationalisations when the Italian economy began to fail, and the extent of his 'corporatist' economic policies being destroying unions in favor of controlled opposition and giving large producers a monopoly. I'd rather take the actions of totalitarian dictators for what they intended, than the populist statements they made.
Anyway, this is getting a bit off of the thread's rails. Any more and it'll be full blown threadshitting from me.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52281685]i mean, it's quite the list. personally i'd assume it means "i don't like this guy" or "he's terrible" or "you've got bad taste". they're all a lot more reasonable than "send him to prison", plus they make you sound like an adult instead of an overly defensive fanboy. but you think what you want to think. i'm done derailing the thread over your inability to interact with humans[/QUOTE]
that's pretty ironic considering it was very obviously an exaggeration.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;52280040]Yeah, yikes, what a fucking nutjob. Look at all the shit he argues about/with
1: flat earthers yelling about the globe being fake
2: mgtows being weird creepos
3: christians that argue that athiests are dumb and delusional
4: global warming deniers
5: the nuttiest, craziest feminists
Clearly a person who belongs in an insane asylum/prison!![/QUOTE]
armoured sceptic used to target general stupidity such as what you listed above but now all he does is point at crazy feminists and say "LOOK ALL FEMINISTS ARE DUMB!" and post stupid shit like this on twitter
[media]https://twitter.com/ArmouredSkeptic/status/866417995777810432[/media]
he's referring to this bill that adds transgendered people to the list of protected individuals under the human rights act (THAT'S IT) and apparently that means that we're slowly losing our free speech lmao
it's even worse in the twitter forum where he's going "i-i-i-i-i j-just don't understand the human rights tribunal!!!" and "y-y-y you could face legal repercussions for this!" when 99% of the time that's not even the case, 1% of the time you will face legal repercussions if you're the leader of a cult that advocates the murder of "trannies", average case scenario they will send a strongly worded letter asking you to fuck off.
Read the FAQ here.
[url]http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/about/faqs-en.html[/url]
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52282104]armoured sceptic used to target general stupidity such as what you listed above but now all he does is point at crazy feminists and say "LOOK ALL FEMINISTS ARE DUMB!" and post stupid shit like this on twitter
[media]https://twitter.com/ArmouredSkeptic/status/866417995777810432[/media]
he's referring to this bill that adds transgendered people to the list of protected individuals under the human rights act (THAT'S IT) and apparently that means that we're slowly losing our free speech lmao
it's even worse in the twitter forum where he's going "i-i-i-i-i j-just don't understand the human rights tribunal!!!" and "y-y-y you could face legal repercussions for this!" when 99% of the time that's not even the case, 1% of the time you will face legal repercussions if you're the leader of a cult that advocates the murder of "trannies", average case scenario they will send a strongly worded letter asking you to fuck off.
Read the FAQ here.
[url]http://www.chrt-tcdp.gc.ca/about/faqs-en.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Not going to pretend like I have any idea whatsoever what he puts on his twitter because I don't and I don't care, but his videos are in no way just about feminists. He does make videos about feminists, but it's nowhere near being all of them or even a majority. And also at least with the videos about feminism of his that I have watched, which admittedly isn't all of them I guess, he very explicitly did not say that all feminists are dumb.
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