• Totalbiscuit: Why I think Bioware has gone too far with Mass Effect 3
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[QUOTE=Falleen9;34833392]He's totally missing the point. I'm sure the story will have a perfectly normal ending WITHOUT the prothean, just like it had the same ending with Kasumi, and Jaaed. They had no effect on the overall arc, they were just nice to have around. That's all the prothean is. It's an EXTRA character that very may well establish a bit of backstory, but other than that is going to be overall unnecessary to the experience. You lost credibility here. Clearly not taking everything seriously and just enjoying games for what they are means I don't pay for my own games. That logic is flawless.[/QUOTE] Yup, it's not like a DLC destroys the game. I just don't understand what's bothering them, the price, the fact that EA/Bioware does this or something else.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;34833365]Except it's not as extreme as you make it to be.[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you talking about? [QUOTE]selling you a part of the game for the full game price and then telling you there is more to it than that, so you have the urge for more, and then you have to pay for it if you do want more.[/QUOTE] This is [I]exactly [/I]what they are doing. Nothing less. And this [QUOTE]Why not just cut the game into 10 parts and for each you have to pay individually. It would be like "congrats you have completed the first level, if you want to continue buy level 2 for only 9.99$". Part of the story is not collectors content. [/QUOTE] Is what is going to happen if you people keep letting them dictating the terms.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;34833254] I started caring about the price/content ratio when my mom stopped paying for my shit.[/QUOTE] Get a job. [editline]23rd February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Silly Sil;34833417]What the fuck are you talking about? This is [I]exactly [/I]what they are doing. Nothing less. And this Is what is going to happen if you people keep letting them dictating the terms.[/QUOTE] Nah, that's not going to happen. And talk about getting upset, if money matters that much to you I'll buy you the DLC, lol.
I don't have the emotional fortitude not to buy the game itself, but I've since decided not to buy the digital deluxe and just getting the stock game itself. Don't want to fund this shit but still want to play the game. Will watch a youtube video and get the story from there.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;34833417]What the fuck are you talking about? This is [I]exactly [/I]what they are doing. Nothing less. And this Is what is going to happen if you people keep letting them dictating the terms.[/QUOTE] Sil name one occasion where a DLC has completely ruined a game and broke absolutely everything, then maybe you'll be able to understand where we're coming from. Conspiracy theories about us paying for the full game don't have credibility without proof.
[QUOTE=Falleen9;34833392]He's totally missing the point. I'm sure the story will have a perfectly normal ending WITHOUT the prothean, just like it had the same ending with Kasumi, and Jaaed. They had no effect on the overall arc, they were just nice to have around. That's all the prothean is. It's an EXTRA character that very may well establish a bit of backstory, but other than that is going to be overall unnecessary to the experience.[/QUOTE] It's like one of the main points of the plot. It's like when you buy Diablo3 you have to buy DLC to be actually able to fight diablo, if you don't buy dlc you will save the world in some other way. [QUOTE=Falleen9;34833392]You lost credibility here. Clearly not taking everything seriously and just enjoying games for what they are means I don't pay for my own games. That logic is flawless.[/QUOTE] Not giving a fuck about price/content ratio means that you're either very rich or don't pay for your own shit. [QUOTE=Swebonny;34833424]Get a job.[/QUOTE] HUUUUURRRR that's the fucking point? "I pay for my own shit" implies that I earn my own money and therefore care about spending it rasonably? Meaning I don't want to buy overpriced stuff? [QUOTE=Swebonny;34833424]Nah, that's not going to happen.[/QUOTE] It's already happening? You get more of the story if you pay more. [editline]23rd February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Falleen9;34833501]Sil name one occasion where a DLC has completely ruined a game and broke absolutely everything, then maybe you'll be able to understand where we're coming from. Conspiracy theories about us paying for the full game don't have credibility without proof.[/QUOTE] What the fuck does destroying the game with DLC has to do with anything? Where the fuck did you get that from? I never said anything about it. What proof you want and of what? Day one DLC is all the proof I need.
You're rude as hell, did you know that?
Because you people make no sense and you miss my points by light years.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;34833515]What the fuck does destroying the game with DLC has to do with anything? Where the fuck did you get that from? I never said anything about it.[/QUOTE] I decided to skim your posts and get the general idea of what you've been saying, just like how you haven't read a single one of mine or swebonny's posts and just took what you wanted out of them. I've been polite and explained my position respectfully, but clearly that isn't your method of function. You don't have to buy the DLC, and I gave my reasoning why I was going to buy it and that's what I'm sticking to and also my choice. All you had to really do was say "Oh hey that's your choice and I don't agree with it but good for you." I'm making a perfectly logical argument for the DLC, but hey if you aren't intelligent enough to understand it and just want to fight against it go for it. That's your choice, and I'm not going to be rude to you about it.
[QUOTE=Falleen9;34833169]Its getting tiresome when the gaming community acts like over-entitled brats when a new big name game comes out. [B]What ever happened to just buying the game and enjoying it regardless of the content?[/B][/QUOTE] "Eat shit and like it"? Go fuck yourself. As a consumer I the right to complain when someone's trying to fuck me up the ass. 90% of the game might be completely alright (it won't, thanks Dragon Age and gay sex in space) and I would still not buy it because I don't support companies treating me like a mindless retard that most of us are. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Great job telling someone "Go fuck yourself." I already remarked about being rudeness." - Swebonny))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=NanoSquid;34823660]Because it's more fun to stare at a female ass for hours on end when you're straight.[/QUOTE] That's why they put Miranda into ME2.
If I continue buying games which developers try to pull off shit like this, they will think (they already know they do) they can get away with shit like that. I'm not buying it not because I think it's gonna be a shitty game but because the developers and it's publishers treat me like shit. Fuck EA, fuck Bioware and fuck their shovelware.
[QUOTE=Falleen9;34833642]I decided to skim your posts and get the general idea of what you've been saying, just like how you haven't read a single one of mine or swebonny's posts and just took what you wanted out of them.[/QUOTE] You're making it look like I'm saying that DLC destroy games and I take what I want from your posts? [QUOTE=Falleen9;34833642]I've been polite and explained my position respectfully, but clearly that isn't your method of function. [/QUOTE] Moral highground. Bonus points for you. [QUOTE=Falleen9;34833642] You don't have to buy the DLC, and I gave my reasoning why I was going to buy it and that's what I'm sticking to and also my choice. All you had to really do was say "Oh hey that's your choice and I don't agree with it but good for you."[/QUOTE] What? You said things like "Its getting tiresome when the gaming community acts like over-entitled brats when a new big name game comes out. What ever happened to just buying the game and enjoying it regardless of the content? I've always bought games to just play and relax, it seems nowadays they just make people more angry than work as they were originally intended. " What does that have to do with reasoning for you buying DLC? If you'd be like "I'm going to buy DLC because I think it's worth it and I don't mind paying more" then I would answer "Oh hey that's your choice and I don't agree with it but good for you." because I it's your subjective opinion and choice and I have no rights to tell you what to do. [QUOTE=Falleen9;34833642]I'm making a perfectly logical argument for the DLC, but hey if you aren't intelligent enough to understand it and just want to fight against it go for it. That's your choice, and I'm not going to be rude to you about it.[/QUOTE] Where's that logical argument about DLC? "It doesn't destroy the game" which has nothing to do with anything anyone said? Or that one of the main points of the plot is a collectors content? That what I've been saying is a conspiracy theory without proof? Dude what is this dlc? It's a part taken out of the fully developed game. The rest is sold as full game for full price. Then they tell you that there is more of the story and game, which they sell for additional money. This way they sell the game for more. It's that easy. Does it destroy the game? No. Do you have to buy the DLC? No. Do you have to buy the game at all? No. And that's when supply and demand comes in. I don't feel like buying overpriced game and I won't. You feel like the content is worth the price? Your choice, I don't agree. Do you understand why people get angry about this now? Because people feel that the content isn't worth the price and they feel that they're being manipulated to pay more for the same thing and they don't appreciate it. And now, if you continue buying those things you tell them that it's ok to do it. And they will push for more and more as long as it gets them profit.
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;34823729]so the only reason you play games is to stare at the protagonists ass? I think you need some psychological help.[/QUOTE] it's a reference to another video
[QUOTE=Falleen9;34833392]He's totally missing the point. I'm sure the story will have a perfectly normal ending WITHOUT the prothean, just like it had the same ending with Kasumi, and Jaaed. They had no effect on the overall arc, they were just nice to have around. That's all the prothean is. It's an EXTRA character that very may well establish a bit of backstory, but other than that is going to be overall unnecessary to the experience.[/QUOTE] Space ninjas and bounty hunters aren't integral to the plot of Mass Effect. Protheans are. Additionally, Zaeed was free if you bought the game new, and Kasumi was released several months after the game was out. The Prothean [I]is[/I] available at the game's release, and you don't even get him if you pay for the game new, you have to pay extra in one way or another.
I loved both Mass Effect games. But that is seriously too much for me so I'll probably boycott this one.
[QUOTE=Last or First;34834946]Space ninjas and bounty hunters aren't integral to the plot of Mass Effect. Protheans are. [/QUOTE] We'll see in two weeks or so how essential he is. I still have my money on this particular Prothean as "not at all" despite the fact I'll still be buying it.
[QUOTE=Falleen9;34835156]We'll see in two weeks or so how essential he is. I still have my money on "not at all" despite the fact I'll still be buying it.[/QUOTE] If one of the main points in the plot is irrelevant that would be equally shitty.
It's a [sp]Prothean[/sp]. The fact that he exists as a character is huge enough. I don't give a shit if your mission is to help him get his job back at Citadel Burgers.
[QUOTE=Sanitizer;34823177]Why is he playing female Shepard? Male Shepard is better.[/QUOTE] He said in a previous video that it's his wife doing the gameplay due to him being in sweden.
I'm pretty well convinced that Bioware's gone to shit.
[QUOTE=Falleen9;34835156]We'll see in two weeks or so how essential he is. I still have my money on this particular Prothean as "not at all" despite the fact I'll still be buying it.[/QUOTE] he's a fucking prothean that's like saying that chozo aren't important in metroid
I still want to buy ME3 but from this I'm concerned on how the actual game will turn out.
i play femshep cuz she is mroe ~kawaiie~
[QUOTE=Falleen9;34835156]We'll see in two weeks or so how essential he is. I still have my money on this particular Prothean as "not at all" despite the fact I'll still be buying it.[/QUOTE] It's like if valve (A reputable company, much like Bioware used to be) released Half Life 2 with day 1 DLC cut directly from the game that had a mission that told you majorly important facts about Gman and his motives. And then it costs $15. Surely you can see why this is bullshit and why your statement is bullshit. Have you ever even played Mass Effect? Protheans are pretty fucking important.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;34837545]It's like if valve (A reputable company, much like Bioware used to be) released Half Life 2 with day 1 DLC cut directly from the game that had a mission that told you majorly important facts about Gman and his motives. And then it costs $15. Surely you can see why this is bullshit and why your statement is bullshit. Have you ever even played Mass Effect? Protheans are pretty fucking important.[/QUOTE] They are collectors content dude. And you don't have to buy the DLC that explains a lot of essenstial stuff. :downs:
The Mass Effects are some of my favorite games this gen, I'll probably buy the game and the dlc, and I still won't be as screwed over as I was when I bought Fallout 3 and those 5 DLC's.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/asshole3.png[/img] I want to punch this guy through his monitor.
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;34836514]He said in a previous video that it's his wife doing the gameplay due to him being in sweden.[/QUOTE] he has a wife? that poor woman [editline]24th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Tudd;34841086][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/asshole3.png[/img] I want to punch this guy through his monitor.[/QUOTE] these people are obviously indoctrinated
[QUOTE=Tudd;34841086][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/asshole3.png[/img] I want to punch this guy through his monitor.[/QUOTE] You should have been there on BSN the day Lair of the Shadow Broker for PC turned out to be full of zeroes. "BIOWAER RIPPD US OFF" "GIMME MEH MUNEY BACK"
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