Instigating biker gets ass kicked by old guy. - General

[QUOTE=Fantastical;52456824]Good, fucker deserved it. Bikers are the worst people[/QUOTE] lol can you please tell me how operating a motor vehicle with less than 4 wheels automatically makes you a supervillain

[QUOTE=n0cturni;52456930]lol can you please tell me how operating a motor vehicle with less than 4 wheels automatically makes you a supervillain[/QUOTE] Pretty much every biker I've seen in traffic acts like an asshole. Speeding, overtaking like complete morons, squeezing between cars when there's a line at a stop light, and worst of all they fucking rev up those engines so the whole damn city can hear them, even at night too.

[QUOTE=Fantastical;52456955]Pretty much every biker I've seen in traffic acts like an asshole. Speeding, overtaking like complete morons, squeezing between cars when there's a line at a stop light, and worst of all they fucking rev up those engines so the whole damn city can hear them, even at night too.[/QUOTE] Take a look at the behavior of car drivers, they do the same assholish things. It's not bikers specifically, a lot of people turn into huge dickheads when driving.

Lane splitting is only safer in areas where drivers are aware of splitting (aka where it's legal and understood). I've split lanes in places where it's not legal in rough jams and I've seen idiot drivers literally drive off the road because they don't understand what's happening and feel like they need to get out of the way. Keep in mind I'm keeping it around 10 MPH or so. I don't split any more because of how dangerous it can be to other drivers.

Don't flip people off if they fuck up your driving. So what if someone cuts you off, oh no, now you get to your destination a few seconds later. Is that really worth potentially starting a fight with some stranger? The biker was an idiot for flipping off the old dude and brake checking (and of course for trying to start a fight and pulling over), and the old guy shouldn't be such a violent asshole. Nobody in this video was right. This video really only shows why giving in to road rage is a bad idea, so just do yourself a favor and don't. It's never worth it.

What was the biker even trying to accomplish.

Funnily enough today I had the worst driving experience ever, and I can [b]not[/b] proudly say I flipped some guy off. He kept slowing down and speeding up, almost driving off the road a few times, and in the middle of a circle roundabout braked hard, and almost caused me to get into an accident with the guy behind him. I have a little bit of road rage, but it goes to show that you really do need to keep your cool. It's too easy to flip someone off and go on your merry way - but all it takes is that one crazy to ruin your life.

[QUOTE=Kabstrac;52457733]A lot of you guys are assuming the biker was trying to start a fight[/QUOTE] There are no assumptions when he says "Oh you want to pull over? Pull over, let's go... bitch" in the video. In any case, there is no good reason to pull over and confront the other party in any road rage scenario.

They're both very very wrong, but you would think if you own a bike you'd have the common sense not to piss people off on the road considering one flick of the wrist on their part could liquefy you

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;52456123]Asking someone what their problem is, albeit yelling at them, is not picking a fight when the old guy went to throwing punches immediately. The worst part about this is the fact that the guy went after him while he was trying to defuse and walk away. You [B][I][U]Never[/U][/I][/B] fucking do that no matter what. A good chunk of the bikers I know carry a knife or a pistol of sorts when they ride. Forcing a CC into a corner when they are actively trying to get away from you is a good way to get yourself fucking killed.[/QUOTE] This is the worst post in this thread. "Asking someone what their problem is" and "trying to defuse and walk away" are gross misrepresentations of a motorist flipping off another, yelling at them to pull over, stopping in front of them, and destroying their mirror before leaving. The discussion here is awfully one sided for what is a biker blocking someone to literally ask for a fight, before having their harassment quest put to an end.

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;52456123]Asking someone what their problem is, albeit yelling at them, is not picking a fight when the old guy went to throwing punches immediately. The worst part about this is the fact that the guy went after him while he was trying to defuse and walk away. You [B][I][U]Never[/U][/I][/B] fucking do that no matter what. A good chunk of the bikers I know carry a knife or a pistol of sorts when they ride. Forcing a CC into a corner when they are actively trying to get away from you is a good way to get yourself fucking killed.[/QUOTE] yeah man, brake checking someone while riding a bike is totally reasonable to do, flipping them off, yelling at them, driving like a fucking idiot, pulling over and screaming into their window Totally something someone who doesn't want a fight does. I do this every day to women driving cars to tell them how much I love their hair in fact. And then after the guy you're yelling at mysteriously responds with anger you shoot them in 'self defense'? They punch first, you shoot first, I say! [editline]11th July 2017[/editline] Or better yet, don't cut someone off and then immediately flip them off. After all there are some angry dudes who drive cars like cunts and get so angry that they steal cameras that could have guns in them, wouldn't want to corner a gun owner driving a 4 door. God, idk, hard fucking decision.

The reason why we bikers get a little pissy is because some morons cant drive for shit and nearly kills us. If this old guy wouldve touched me i wouldve beat his shit. Learn to fucking drive, you dont own the road and intentionally trying kill me to save a millisecond of your time is going to piss me off.

[QUOTE=Sky King;52457970]The reason why we bikers get a little pissy is because some morons cant drive for shit and nearly kills us. If this old guy wouldve touched me i wouldve beat his shit. Learn to fucking drive, you dont own the road and intentionally trying kill me to save a millisecond of your time is going to piss me off.[/QUOTE] there are definitely some crazy fucks out there who are just totally blind or don't care Even on a bike, you really have to learn to just be patient and suck it up. But there are also crazy bikers that speed, cut in front, just silly shit

[QUOTE=Sky King;52457970]some morons cant drive for shit[/QUOTE] there are plenty of moron bikers who "can't drive for shit" it doesn't matter what kind of vehicle you drive, that's a universal trait [QUOTE=Sky King;52457970] Learn to fucking drive, you dont own the road[/QUOTE] the "learn to drive, asshole" mentality is so dumb good driver, bad driver, nutcase, idiot - in the end it doesn't matter because on a bike you will be the one who dies in a crash why go looking for fights you can't win? of course in this case none of it matters because the biker is obviously a fucking moron

[QUOTE=unrezt;52457994]there are plenty of moron bikers who "can't drive for shit" it doesn't matter what kind of vehicle you drive, that's a universal trait[/QUOTE] The worst part about shitty bikers is that they're basically suicidal idiots that go out of there way to make it more dangerous for themselves, just like the guy in the video they need to realize that people feel safe in a car. There are actual psychopaths that would love a chance to get brake checked just so they can 'accidentally' bump into the bike. You can't test these massive idiots patience when you're in the most vulnerable thing around This isn't me applauding brake check hit and run jackasses of course, but I've seen so many biker videos where they act like fools, its insane. The worst thing about people like the guy in the OP too, is that I've seen drivers who sped past tons of cars but they ended up going slower than me who was going only 5 over the limit.

[QUOTE=Sky King;52457970]The reason why we bikers get a little pissy is because some morons cant drive for shit and nearly kills us. If this old guy wouldve touched me i wouldve beat his shit. Learn to fucking drive, you dont own the road and intentionally trying kill me to save a millisecond of your time is going to piss me off.[/QUOTE] That goes both ways though, if the biker in this case would have just let the old dude pass him and not start cutting him off and flipping him off, everything would have been fine and the only negative is that the biker would arrive at his destination half a second later. Also we still have no idea what happened before this video so the biker could have been an ass to the old guy in the Kia first, we have no idea what happened here.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;52458012]That goes both ways though, if the biker in this case would have just let the old dude pass him and not start cutting him off and flipping him off, everything would have been fine and the only negative is that the biker would arrive at his destination half a second later. Also we still have no idea what happened before this video so the biker could have been an ass to the old guy in the Kia first, we have no idea what happened here.[/QUOTE] Regardless the driver shouldnt be risking almost killing a guy for fingering off.

[QUOTE=Sky King;52458075]Regardless the driver shouldnt be risking almost killing a guy for fingering off.[/QUOTE] Oh without a doubt, but if you see the guy's other videos you can see he drives like a total dick: [url]https://www.youtube.com/user/abrennan077/videos[/url] He shouldn't be getting his ass kicked in any scenario, but seems to me that he invites trouble anywhere he drives, so I'm not sure anyone should be surprised with the outcome. Takes two to tango is my point I guess.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;52458083]if you see the guy's other videos[url]https://www.youtube.com/user/abrennan077/videos[/url][/QUOTE] that's assuming it's even the same guy aside from a video description written by some rando who exclusively posts garbage, what else is there to connect them?

[QUOTE=Sky King;52458075]Regardless the driver shouldnt be risking almost killing a guy for fingering off.[/QUOTE] "almost killing" he just beat him up a bit. it wasn't right what the driver did, but at the same time i don't really feel bad for the biker at all. he was out there clearly looking for a fight and he of course acted like a cunt when he actually got one.

[QUOTE=Sky King;52457970]The reason why we bikers get a little pissy is because some morons cant drive for shit and nearly kills us. If this old guy wouldve touched me i wouldve beat his shit. Learn to fucking drive, you dont own the road and intentionally trying kill me to save a millisecond of your time is going to piss me off.[/QUOTE] I wonder if the biker in the video was thinking "learn to drive, idiot, you don't own the road" as he cut off a car and then flipped them off

[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;52458309]that's assuming it's even the same guy aside from a video description written by some rando who exclusively posts garbage, what else is there to connect them?[/QUOTE] Probably isn't him, I did some digging, the video in the bike appears to be a Honda Grom of some kind with Texas plates, where HD2 is in LA and does not have a Honda Grom. Could be an old video or something, though. Either way, plenty of bikers drive like dicks, it's not unique to cars.

[QUOTE=Talvy;52457916]This is the worst post in this thread. "Asking someone what their problem is" and "trying to defuse and walk away" are gross misrepresentations of a motorist flipping off another, yelling at them to pull over, stopping in front of them, and destroying their mirror before leaving. The discussion here is awfully one sided for what is a biker blocking the road to literally ask for a fight, before having their harassment quest put to an end.[/QUOTE] Why the fuck would he be asking someone to call the police if his intention was to fist fight him? There is absolutely no justification for what the old guy did. Fight or no fight when someone walks away it's done, you're shooting yourself in the foot if cops involved because if you keep pushing it everyone is gonna say that you kept punching someone that was actively trying to get away from you and wasn't even fighting back. [QUOTE=J!NX;52457941]And then after the guy you're yelling at mysteriously responds with anger you shoot them in 'self defense'?[/QUOTE] Yelling match doesn't justify assault, nothing that happened on the road justified attacking someone that wasn't even fighting back. I definitely don't think it would of been a great thing if the old guy got shot or stabbed, but if he did it would of been self defense in the eyes of the law.

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;52458652]Why the fuck would he be asking someone to call the police if his intention was to fist fight him? There is absolutely no justification for what the old guy did. Fight or no fight when someone walks away it's done, you're shooting yourself in the foot if cops involved because if you keep pushing it everyone is gonna say that you kept punching someone that was actively trying to get away from you and wasn't even fighting back.[/QUOTE] You can go on about specific laws, but if you blocked me and destroyed my mirror before running away, I would not let you go, and I certainly wouldn't be happy.

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;52458652]Why the fuck would he be asking someone to call the police if his intention was to fist fight him? There is absolutely no justification for what the old guy did. Fight or no fight when someone walks away it's done, you're shooting yourself in the foot if cops involved because if you keep pushing it everyone is gonna say that you kept punching someone that was actively trying to get away from you and wasn't even fighting back. Yelling match doesn't justify assault, nothing that happened on the road justified attacking someone that wasn't even fighting back. I definitely don't think it would of been a great thing if the old guy got shot or stabbed, but if he did it would of been self defense in the eyes of the law.[/QUOTE] Never mind the fact that he could have simply not cut someone off and flipped them off in the first place that wasn't aggressive at all nope [editline]11th July 2017[/editline] I'm not going to sit here and defend the old guy but he probably shouldn't have pulled over either, and then walked up to someones window to yell its no mystery the old dude punched him, but regardless of his 'intention' to fight or not he was driving aggressively and aggravating a driver that was made, also, aggressive. Being an aggressor and then shooting in 'self defense' doesn't make sense. It wouldn't be self defense in the law, it'd be a hell of a court case to define it as defense or not. You don't exactly whip your gun out and [B]IMMEDIATELY start shooting after all[/B]. If he had pulled a gun the old guy would have likely backed off, I'd hope to imagine.

[QUOTE=J!NX;52458687]Never mind the fact that he could have simply not cut someone off and flipped them off in the first place that wasn't aggressive at all nope[/QUOTE] Being an asshole is not a crime and I'm not saying he's a saint, but physical assault is [editline]11th July 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Talvy;52458680]You can go on about how any law can define right & wrong, but if I had a car that's mirror you destroyed before running away, I would not let you go, and I certainly wouldn't be happy.[/QUOTE] Cops were on the way apparently, instead of committing an actual offense and fleeing maybe you should tell them when they get there. It was all on camera.

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;52458696]Cops were on the way apparently, instead of committing an actual offense and fleeing maybe you should tell them when they get there. It was all on camera.[/QUOTE] Expect it was [I]his[/I] camera, and [I]he[/I] was leaving. What part of "Pull over, let's go!" while repeatedly blocking someone before approaching them do you not see as a threat in the first place?

[QUOTE=J!NX;52458687]Being an aggressor and then shooting in 'self defense' doesn't make sense. It wouldn't be self defense in the law, it'd be a hell of a court case to define it as defense or not. You don't exactly whip your gun out and [B]IMMEDIATELY start shooting after all[/B]. If he had pulled a gun the old guy would have likely backed off, I'd hope to imagine.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying jump straight to it, my point is that if the guy kept coming after him even after warning him then it would be viewed as self defense. [QUOTE=Talvy;52458716]Expect it was [I]his[/I] camera, and [I]he[/I] was leaving.[/QUOTE] He wasn't fleeing the scene like the old man did, he walked away after getting punched in the face. The old guy should of left it at that and waited for the police to arrive. [QUOTE=Talvy;52458680]You can go on about specific laws, but if you blocked me and destroyed my mirror before running away, I would not let you go, and I certainly wouldn't be happy.[/QUOTE] Go right ahead but at the end of the you're going to fucking jail over a mirror, especially when you are already ready in shit for punching the dude in the face.

[QUOTE=Paramud;52456091][b]You do not try to drive other people off the fucking road.[/b] This is not an arguable opinion, this is a fact. It doesn't matter who did what. You do not [b]ever[/b] try to drive someone, especially someone on a bike, off the road. There is [b]nothing[/b] that justifies pulling in front of a biker and slamming on the brakes.[/QUOTE] Did you read the post to which you're replying, the one that specifically said that didn't happen - or are you just looking for that page-1 respekt? I invite anyone to serve a timestamp of when the driver slammed the brakes, or even braked significantly.

[QUOTE=Talvy;52458875]I invite anyone to serve a timestamp of when the driver [B]slammed[/B] the brakes, or even braked [B]significantly[/B].[/QUOTE] The old guy, while he didn't slam on the brakes so to say, definitely pulled in front of him and tried to brake check. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DCqdLjR.gif[/IMG]