Am I obliged to answer your question, Mr Policeman? - How to deal with a policeman - General

[QUOTE=PirateMax;29085491]Why do people always have to be such douchebags when the cyclist broke the law by going through a red light. The policeman is just doing his damned job, he's not doing this to ruin your day. If the policeman sees someone breaking the law he has to step up to it, that's what he gets paid for. Not to mention it's incredibly annoying as a car driver to stop because a cyclist drives through a red light, if I see a policeman fine that cyclist, it makes me feel good justice is served. So please stop with the fight the law shit.[/QUOTE] I agree. Cyclists are so annoying, and I've only realized that now I've started driving. I know it's probably illegal, but I wish they'd use the pavement in some cases... Also, I like your avatar :3:

Am I the only one who thought it was Tom Baker talking?

He should of just arrested the biker, yeah the bobby didn't have clue what to do, but at the end of the day he ran a red light, he resisted arrest (even if it looked like he was trying to get the camera the bobby could just say he was trying to apprehend him) and he was failing to provide any details of his identity which ultimately made he refuse a fine.

That was awesome! Poor cop...

Clever way to avoid ticket, the cop just made himself look like an idiot.

[QUOTE=Oblivion470;29089091]Clever way to avoid ticket, the cop just made himself look like an idiot.[/QUOTE] He could have said the man on the bike was refusing a ticket, which I belieave is illegal in england im not sure.

That was total brilliance, I feel bad for the cop though. Why would you even call a law an "ID Cop Plan" like what the hell :v:

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;29089317]He could have said the man on the bike was refusing a ticket, which I belieave is illegal in england im not sure.[/QUOTE] Did you even watch the video? He wasn't refusing to take the ticket, he refused to take it at that moment, and getting it mailed to him, really fucking common.

Cyclist was well within his right......even if it did seem like he was being a dick because he knew the copper was beat, basically Cop didn't have a clue what he was on about and just didn't like someone playing him at his own game.

[QUOTE=ZeroMinus;29087756]He should of just arrested the biker, yeah the bobby didn't have clue what to do, but at the end of the day he ran a red light, he resisted arrest (even if it looked like he was trying to get the camera the bobby could just say he was trying to apprehend him) and he was failing to provide any details of his identity which ultimately made he refuse a fine.[/QUOTE] Except he didn't resist arrest because he wasn't fucking being arrested, there were no grounds at any point to arrest him, and if he arrested him without grounds he'd be in major shit. And he has to say that he's arresting you before he can say you "resisted arrest", him trying knock out the camera was plain assault.

[QUOTE=Raptor !;29089614]Cyclist was well within his right......even if it did seem like he was being a dick because he knew the copper was beat, basically Cop didn't have a clue what he was on about and just didn't like someone playing him at his own game.[/QUOTE] No he wasn't well within his rights... He was being issued a ticket. It is the cyclists obligation to take the ticket, and answer the cops questions truthfully. He did not fulfill either obligation. If he wanted to dispute the ticket, it is done through the courts, not at the scene. The cop does need to touch up on his laws though. [editline]11th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Crimor;29089620]Except he didn't resist arrest because he wasn't fucking being arrested, there were no grounds at any point to arrest him, and if he arrested him without grounds he'd be in major shit. And he has to say that he's arresting you before he can say you "resisted arrest", [/QUOTE] He would've been arrested for not taking the ticket and just general disobedience - however he ran off, so we can assume he was "resiting arrest". [QUOTE=Crimor;29089620]him trying knock out the camera was plain assault.[/quote] Not really. He was probably being arrested at that point. Making an arrest or attempting to is a lawful excuse for assault. [editline]11th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Oblivion470;29089091]Clever way to avoid ticket, the cop just made himself look like an idiot.[/QUOTE] It's also illegal.

[QUOTE=Trumple;29086060]I agree. Cyclists are so annoying, and I've only realized that now I've started driving. I know it's probably illegal, but I wish they'd use the pavement in some cases... Also, I like your avatar :3:[/QUOTE] It is illegal to use the pavement, but the police don't really care unless you are going stupidly fast or are going through a big crowd.

The biker is just yet another pretentious prick from London.

Poor Hezzy. [editline]10th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Greaterbeing;29067301]hes a psuedo-intellectual prick[/QUOTE] he's not a pseudo-intellectual, seeing as he is a law student but yes, he is a prick [editline]10th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=DogGunn;29089738]It is the cyclists obligation to take the ticket[/quote] no it isn't [quote]and answer the cops questions truthfully.[/quote] no [quote]If he wanted to dispute the ticket, it is done through the courts, not at the scene.[/quote] either is appropriate [quote]He would've been arrested for not taking the ticket[/quote] no

[QUOTE=Atokniro;29085179]Police Brutality is smart now?[/QUOTE] Actually it is, guys like this deserve to be smashed into the pavement.

[QUOTE=CasualJoe;29091188]Actually it is, guys like this deserve to be smashed into the pavement.[/QUOTE] No.

[QUOTE=CasualJoe;29091188]Actually it is, guys like this deserve to be smashed into the pavement.[/QUOTE] No, because then somebody would have to clean it up and it would be a proper mess. Instead, he should just get a stern talking to or maybe take some lessons on how to talk to a cop without being an aggressive asshole about it.

iN USA CYCLIST WOULD GET BEAT DOWN WITH A STICK ALREADY

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;29090730] [editline]10th April 2011[/editline] no it isn't no either is appropriate no[/QUOTE] are you serious? you are obliged to take the ticket, in the same manner you are obliged to take court summons you are obliged to answer the questions truthfully - i can't believe you'd even try and dispute that. you are obliged to pay the fine, or challenge the fine in court. if you do so at the scene, the officier may decide to arrest you for civil disobedience. you can challenge it to a certain degree, but you are required to take it if he gives it to you. and you are obliged to take the ticket. if you have committed a crime, and it is being written up, you are obliged to take the ticket. seeing as how he didn't give enough information to post the ticket (if he refused to take it on the spot), the officer would've been able to arrest him for not taking it, not answering his questions truthfully, and probably for being a douchebag (civil disobedience)

[QUOTE=Crimor;29089589]Did you even watch the video? He wasn't refusing to take the ticket, he refused to take it at that moment, and getting it mailed to him, really fucking common.[/QUOTE] It still is considered refusing a ticket, I dont belieave you have the right to decide where and when the ticket is issued.

[QUOTE=Otsegolation;29045640]Yeah and multiple people were killed and robbed because of this. Everything was cool, why would he have to give money to the government because he was riding on a bike through an intersection? Did they lose money? No, fuck that stupid shit.[/QUOTE] Because there is a possibility of an accident. There are many pointless laws, but this isn't one of them.

Cops are important and everything, without them we would be living in a pretty shitty world. Cops have power, and commonly when people get power they can become abusing dickheads. However this cop was just doing his job, while the infraction was very small it still is important to stop people so that they can learn from their mistakes. The cop was being sort of a formal douche, I feel if he just said something on the lines of "come on man, don't be a smartass and just accept the ticket" he might of gotten this guy to accept responsibility.

Sir, you're going to have to get into the back of my squadbicycle. :downs:

[QUOTE=Apache249;29103417]Sir, you're going to have to get into the back of my squadbicycle. :downs:[/QUOTE] sir you're gonna have to wait for my backup to arrive :saddowns:

I thought it was illegal to film policemen.

[QUOTE=CasualJoe;29091188]Actually it is, guys like this deserve to be smashed into the pavement.[/QUOTE] WHat country do you live in so I can become a cop and flatten your face with a nice slab of concrete

[QUOTE=MasterG;29105614]ITT: Everyone thinks that they're law students.[/QUOTE] uhh, maybe some are.

[QUOTE=Sh33p;29104582]I thought it was illegal to film policemen.[/QUOTE] it's just a derpy ~anti-terrorism~ law so camera shy policemen can go "please don't film me it's the law now kthx"