What's up with the usually suspicious and sceptical facepunch community when blindly trusting a video like this?
It seems like people tend to let go of their questioning attitude when the material occurs to confirm their position in the german migration situation
[QUOTE=Killuah;50056078]Nice. Gates of Vienna is reporting on it too.
[url]http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/03/9-year-old-boy-badly-beaten-by-migrants-whose-side-are-the-german-police-on/[/url]
A+[/QUOTE]
Wow that's a really crappy website. But that doesn't really discredit the video since anyone can embed it and report about it.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50056089]Of the fucking course?
This fits their narrative, so they are going to report it.
Does being reported by them discredit you? Does being reported by Breitbart, or Daily Mail?[/QUOTE]
No why are you asking that I didn't say that.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50056103]No why are you asking that I didn't say that.[/QUOTE]
Then why even post it?
[QUOTE=Killuah;50056103]No why are you asking that I didn't say that.[/QUOTE]
It kind of made the impression that you were trying to imply that tbh.
The really fishy point of her story is that the kids got into a fight, they got the kid out there, her husband drives home, gets his gun from home, drives into the street 2 blocks away from any place to play soccer and whips out his gun.
[url]https://www.google.de/maps/place/Flurstra%C3%9Fe,+67065+Ludwigshafen+am+Rhein/@49.4549797,8.4168119,649m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4797cb9cdf6b4681:0x9dfa269b9fe1f842[/url]
Of fucking course people would react weirdly when kids get into a fight and half an hour or however later some random dude whips out something that looks like a real gun.
[editline]2nd April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50056111]Above has been the case of other people discrediting the video because of second-hand source shittiness, so I assumed that was your point too. If not, then I fail to see why you would mention that in the first place.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen the last seconds of the video.
I'm not saying she is lying but a random video of a woman telling some story about her husband who is on probation whiping out a gun in the streets together with that is.... ugh.
[editline]2nd April 2016[/editline]
"clips for the counter jihad" ffs
milf :v:
[QUOTE=Killuah;50056120]The really fishy point of her story is that the kids got into a fight, they got the kid out there, her husband drives home, gets his gun from home, drives into the street 2 blocks away from any place to play soccer and whips out his gun.
[url]https://www.google.de/maps/place/Flurstra%C3%9Fe,+67065+Ludwigshafen+am+Rhein/@49.4549797,8.4168119,649m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4797cb9cdf6b4681:0x9dfa269b9fe1f842[/url]
Of fucking course people would react weirdly when kids get into a fight and half an hour or however later some random dude whips out something that looks like a real gun.
[editline]2nd April 2016[/editline]
Have you seen the last seconds of the video.
I'm not saying she is lying but a random video of a woman telling some story about her husband who is on probation whiping out a gun in the streets together with that is.... ugh.
[editline]2nd April 2016[/editline]
"clips for the counter jihad" ffs[/QUOTE]
You are grasping at straws, I see nothing wrong.
People reacted wrong or not, the police fucked up. Didn't send a unit when a kit was getting beaten, didn't accept the report and proceeded to lay siege to the family house. This is the most horrifying part.
And yes, pulling out your gun seems like a reasonable decision. Police also had all the right to investigate into it, but the family is still not guilty of anything here.
She also might be reading off something because that's what you do when you want to tell a story on video - write it down.
Lets check the Police protocols:
[url]http://www.mrn-news.de/2016/03/14/ludwigshafen-55-jaehriger-prahlt-mit-waffe-245489/[/url]
55 year old whips out alarm gun he's not allowed to own in a tram
14th of march 2016.
Video is from 19th.
[url]http://www.mrn-news.de/2016/03/05/hemsbach-im-bereich-einer-fluechtlingsunterkunft-mit-schreckschusswaffe-herumgeballert-244133/[/url]
Dude fires alarm gun next to refuggee home in the middle of the night, nice going asshole.
Other than that, nothing that would relate to arms use in that area.
Hamburg is also getting more and more fucked now to be honest. reeperbahn used to be fun and pretty friendly. Now, not so.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;50056201]You are grasping at straws, I see nothing wrong.
People reacted wrong or not, the police fucked up. Didn't send a unit when a kit was getting beaten, didn't accept the report and proceeded to lay siege to the family house. This is the most horrifying part.
And yes, pulling out your gun seems like a reasonable decision. Police also had all the right to investigate into it, but the family is still not guilty of anything here.
She also might be reading off something because that's what you do when you want to tell a story on video - write it down.[/QUOTE]
I don't know man for everyone in that street it must have looked like some random dude whipped out a gun at some kids and he was on probation and "has a history", that's what she says herself.
[editline]2nd April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=4NGRY MUFF1N;50056228]Hamburg is also getting more and more fucked now to be honest. reeperbahn used to be fun and pretty friendly. Now, not so.[/QUOTE]
Uh. WHAT?
Reeperbahn has been shit for.... ages.
The ban on glas bottles due to too many drunken fights and inhuries has been in place since 2009 dude.
Even more so now that gentrification fucks up the area.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50056229]I don't know man for everyone in that street it must have looked like some random dude whipped out a gun at some kids and he was on probation and "has a history", that's what she says herself.
[editline]2nd April 2016[/editline]
Uh. WHAT?
Reeperbahn has been shit for.... ages.
The ban on glas bottles due to too many drunken fights and inhuries has been in place since 2009 dude.
Even more so now that gentrification fucks up the area.[/QUOTE]
Well for the street people - yes, I agree. As I said police had all the reasons to look into the matter.
But what she describes sounds like some orwellian shit.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;50056279]Well for the street people - yes, I agree. As I said police had all the reasons to look into the matter.
But what she describes sounds like some orwellian shit.[/QUOTE]
Yes because it's most likely very one sided or not true. Every detail of the police thing is wrong.
"come out we bumped into your car"
Jesus christ we are talking about a SWAT team here according to what she describes(and even that is wrong)
Nothing of it here too
[url]http://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/suche.htx?q=Ludwigshafen+Waffe[/url]
[QUOTE=Killuah;50056282]Yes because it's most likely very one sided or not true. Every detail of the police thing is wrong.
"come out we bumped into your car"
Jesus christ we are talking about a SWAT team here according to what she describes(and even that is wrong)
Nothing of it here too
[url]http://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/suche.htx?q=Ludwigshafen+Waffe[/url][/QUOTE]
Could you give a summary of the source please?
I don't speak german.
It's press releases of all incidents involving the police, they are required to make it public.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50055987]
So most likely this is just a very very one sided story.
The channel it is hosted on is further evidence of this.
Also I've heard FAR too many hoax stories from racist fucks, just look at the fake slander stories
[url]www.hoaxmap.org[/url]
Especially since there is no source at all.[/QUOTE]
The pro-refugee crowd also have an habit of making stories up. [URL="http://www.ef-magazin.de/2016/03/29/8673-syrische-retter-der-ideologische-unfall-der-frankfurter-rundschau"]Apparently the story about Syrian refugees saving an NPD politician was mispresented. [/URL] They took a look at the accident, but weren't involved with getting him out of the car. Also, the made-up story about a refugee freezing to death in Berlin is probably a better example.
And while Hoaxmap shows a number of disproved stories, the list of actual reported crimes committed by refugees are far bigger. Also note how Keulen/Cologne has no fake stories, for a start.
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z12D0zt-V4iI.kXGfjpzjOS1Q[/url]
The XYEinzelfall map shows most of the reported crimes committed by refugees in and near Germany, and by which form of media got reported in the mostly German media.
The worst thing is, that the amount of rapes committed in swimming pools by refugees got so big, that it eventually became a separate category in the crime list provided there.
It's not going very well in Germany at all lately.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50055987][...]
The clothes she decribes are also not their uniform so something is wrong there. The Bundespolizei does not wear cameo.
[...][/QUOTE]
On that note, do we even have [I]any[/I] police that wear camo? I don't remember any, but I could just be mistaken.
No.
This is the police, not the army.
Aka she's making shit up.
[editline]3rd April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jordax;50056477]The pro-refugee crowd also have an habit of making stories up. [URL="http://www.ef-magazin.de/2016/03/29/8673-syrische-retter-der-ideologische-unfall-der-frankfurter-rundschau"]Apparently the story about Syrian refugees saving an NPD politician was mispresented. [/URL] They took a look at the accident, but weren't involved with getting him out of the car. Also, the made-up story about a refugee freezing to death in Berlin is probably a better example.
And while Hoaxmap shows a number of disproved stories, the list of actual reported crimes committed by refugees are far bigger. Also note how Keulen/Cologne has no fake stories, for a start.
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z12D0zt-V4iI.kXGfjpzjOS1Q[/url]
The XYEinzelfall map shows most of the reported crimes committed by refugees in and near Germany, and by which form of media got reported in the mostly German media.
The worst thing is, that the amount of rapes committed in swimming pools by refugees got so big, that it eventually became a separate category in the crime list provided there.
It's not going very well in Germany at all lately.[/QUOTE]
You are linking an extreme right wing blog that talks about a left-green cartell conspiracy within the first 6 words of the article
I'm not gonna involve myself with this further than this but I want to point out that if I were to recite events for a camera for 10 minutes, I'd need notes or a script, or a lot of jump cuts.
[QUOTE=Killuah;50056616]No.
This is the police, not the army.
Aka she's making shit up.
[editline]3rd April 2016[/editline]
You are linking an extreme right wing blog that talks about a left-green cartell conspiracy within the first 6 words of the article[/QUOTE]
Ad-hominem?
You are attacking the source, but how does this disprove the point?
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