Prominent feminist and journalist Julie Bindel has openly called for putting all men in concentratio - General

[QUOTE=kilerabv;48670695]I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.[/QUOTE] dgg's feminism defense mechanism faq.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48672284]I have to ask, I just have to If someone posted an equal number of feminist articles, would you say the same thing? Would you degrade and attack them too? Probably not is my guess[/QUOTE] that's totally not why i brought this up but thanks for the assumption my issue is that most of what op has posted are either sensationalist stories from shitty sources, fringe lunatics that are easy to refute, and generally just the kind of low hanging fruit that people post so they can all start patting eachother on the back for being so smart and right all along. also, there's people saying much more vile things in this same thread, and you come at me for making fun of this -and there's really no other word to describe it- sad attempt at validation? come on, you're better than this. [editline]a[/editline] by all means, op can preach to his choir all he wants, but just because he has a right to do it doesn't mean people aren't gonna notice it and criticize :^)

Validation for what exactly? I asked that because I'm genuinely curious if someone who attacks one extreme would attack the other that's closer to their own side But thanks for the assumption about "validation" lol

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48672353]Validation for what exactly? I asked that because I'm genuinely curious if someone who attacks one extreme would attack the other that's closer to their own side But thanks for the assumption about "validation" lol[/QUOTE] i didn't say you were seeking validation, but pretiacruento obviously is but yes, if the hypothetical content posted was as shitty as this, i would also criticize it [editline]a[/editline] like, op, my man, it would be a hundred times better if you just made a "fuck feminists" thread where y'all could just drop the pretense of debate and scoff away

[QUOTE=dgg;48670636]Of course human rights would exists, but the human rights would be different, as would the world itself. This segregation is happening in the made-up world that Julie Bindel is envisioning where such a thing would be possible, and obviously the women would consider themselves humans and have human rights by law. Human rights had to be made up and written at some point, more rights may have to be added in the future to adapt, but just like you can add on to it you can also detract from it, but it needs to be something the world agrees with.[/QUOTE] From now on I think I'd rather call you dgg Quisling, seeing as you're Norwegian, and it would suffice to the amount of batshit insanity I'm reading in this thread.

I've seen people argue for some insane stuff on Facepunch but I think dgg has surpassed any prior expectations I used to have.

[QUOTE=kilerabv;48670695]I don't even know what this thread is about anymore.[/QUOTE] A joyus jalopy ride where Vidkun "dgg" Quisling tries to defend the idea of putting the male population of the planet earth into Concentration camps because he liked the idea of it.

Reading this thread is like watching a train crash that could've easily been avoided.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48669727]Unfortunately it is feminism. Huge segments of the movement have turned towards straight up man-hating and female supremacy. This evolution in part being caused by the sexist idea of women being the oppressed and men being the oppressor. Its natural to think "fuck the oppressor".[/QUOTE] I swear every post of yours is just a slightly reworked version of the same thing

what are you guys doing with your lives

[QUOTE=discofex;48671080]Yea but dgg also said they can be checked out like books, to be raped. Dgg has already pointed out that human males are not humans.[/QUOTE] Quote from Julie Bindel that is the first thing that comes up in the video: [quote]I would actually put them all in some kind of camp where they can all drive around in quad bikes, or bicycles, or white vans. I would give them a choice of vehicles to drive around with, give them no porn, they wouldn’t be able to fight – we would have wardens, of course! Women who want to see their sons or male loved ones would be able to go and visit, or take them out like a [B]library book[/B], and then bring them back.[/quote] That's her idea that I'm arguing about. My whole point is that what she's saying is fucking terrible, but it is not nazi-levels of genocide, she does not wish the death of men, but she wants men to be considered less human, like animals in a zoo, which is fucking terrible in itself. There is no need to make her sound even more evil than she is, she already is evil, you don't need to paint on a hitler moustache and add a evil-laughter.mp3 track on top of it. [QUOTE=Derposaurus;48671864]It will never cease to amaze me when people say that a person meant something else when they sent something. "She meant to say prison but she actually said concentration camp, it was just an oopsie of hers." No, she said concentration camp and the only logical conclusion is that she meant concentration camp.[/QUOTE] She never used the word concentration camp, you can see the quote above and you will find it nowhere in the interview. This does not make what she said somehow not bad, but there is no need to hyperbole it. This is her dream, her ideal, and it is fucking bonkers, but it would never be possible to implement. [QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;48672181]Are you just some neo-nazi or something? You're statements reek of closeted facism.[/QUOTE] Stating that people were seen as humans on some levels, had certain rights is being closet fascist? If they weren't recognized as humans to some extent they would have never gotten to the point where they got all human rights. [QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;48672312]Are you seriously that petty? :v:.[/QUOTE] No, I just noticed that he made an edit so I said "oh look an edit" so he knew that I noticed that he's added more stuff to his post that I could reply to, which is why it wasn't in the original post. [QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;48672420]From now on I think I'd rather call you dgg Quisling, seeing as you're Norwegian, and it would suffice to the amount of batshit insanity I'm reading in this thread.[/QUOTE] If simply stating that her make-believe man-hating world would have different human right laws is advocating for her batshit views rather than pointing out how batshit crazy they are, then sure, I guess I somehow am a Quisling to men. [QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;48672465]A joyus jalopy ride where Vidkun "dgg" Quisling tries to defend the idea of putting the male population of the planet earth into Concentration camps because he liked the idea of it.[/QUOTE] If that's what you got out of it you've come to some far fetched conclusions.

[QUOTE=dgg;48670663]No, I have only been arguing against the idea that they would be stripped away of [B]all[/B] human rights in this made-up silly segregation. bdd458 even brought up a good example with afro americans in the 60's which I think would be a similar matter as this. Afro americans in the 60's had some human rights, but they were not considered humans because they didn't have all of them; they were treated as inferior humans. This segregation would cause the same sort of situation but with males. Anyone that thinks of that as defending it assumes way too much right away.[/QUOTE] Tbh. you are arguing about the nuances of brown in two piles of dogshit.

[QUOTE=Saturn V;48673108]what are you guys doing with your lives[/QUOTE] Arguing on the internet. [editline]13th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Killuah;48673248]Tbh. you are arguing about the nuances of brown in two piles of dogshit.[/QUOTE] I'm arguing that we shouldn't stoop down to the level of who we disagree with. Just because she says something extreme doesn't mean we have to top it off by making it sound even more extreme. What she said was already extreme enough as it is. You don't fight fire with fire. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Pretty sure by now this is threadshitting" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=dgg;48673250]Arguing on the internet. [editline]13th September 2015[/editline] I'm arguing that we shouldn't stoop down to the level of who we disagree with. Just because she says something extreme doesn't mean we have to top it off by making it sound even more extreme. What she said was already extreme enough as it is. You don't fight fire with fire.[/QUOTE] This could've been your first post. I agree with your point but it's not worth the last 3 pages.

I am absolutely dumbfounded by the lengths you went to dgg, like seriously. What the fuck are you doing, ALL YOU HAD TO SAY WAS LETS NOT STOOP TO EXTREMISTS LEVEL AND MISREPRESENT THINGS. But you literally spent four pages arguing this shit with a tone that cries nothing more than desperate internet forum damage control about the side you care about. Just, I don't even know what to say to you. I am continuously, surprised and partly impressed by the lengths the recent trend of feminism social what ever the fuck you want to call it shit posting has become the norm in a lot of places. But this, this is a whole new fucking level, the others are gonna need some real fucking impressive shit to top this. Just. Fuck man.

[QUOTE=mooman1080;48673312]I am absolutely dumbfounded by the lengths you went to dgg, like seriously. What the fuck are you doing, ALL YOU HAD TO SAY WAS LETS NOT STOOP TO EXTREMISTS LEVEL AND MISREPRESENT THINGS. But you literally spent four pages arguing this shit with a tone that cries nothing more than desperate internet forum damage control about the side you care about. Just, I don't even know what to say to you. I am continuously, surprised and partly impressed by the lengths the recent trend of feminism social what ever the fuck you want to call it shit posting has become the norm in a lot of places. But this, this is a whole new fucking level, the others are gonna need some real fucking impressive shit to top this. Just. Fuck man.[/QUOTE] except if you actually read his first post past having a knee jerk reaction at 'it's not the same as a concentration camp' that's what he said I mean he's incoherent and argues way longer than necessary but he was pretty much arguing against the presentation of the video

At the risk of derailing this thread, did anyone actually read the article? Because I'm pretty sure the guy in the video didn't, he seems like he's as much of a feminist hater as Bindel is a man hater. He makes it sound like she's actively trying to make these concentration camps which is flatout wrong. Although What she says about dismantling gender & heterosexuality dying seemed like an interesting idea (well except for the part were she blames all the bad things on men) it might be interesting to see what would happen if society got rid of defined sexuality & gender, instead just the concept to be more fluid than it is now. So instead of labeling people as one sexuality or another & trying to force themselves or other people to stick to those labels, they could just let their sexuality do whatever it wants.

[QUOTE=axemunger;48673808]At the risk of derailing this thread, did anyone actually read the article? Because I'm pretty sure the guy in the video didn't, he seems like he's as much of a feminist hater as Bindel is a man hater. He makes it sound like she's actively trying to make these concentration camps which is flatout wrong. Although What she says about dismantling gender & heterosexuality dying seemed like an interesting idea (well except for the part were she blames all the bad things on men) it might be interesting to see what would happen if society got rid of defined sexuality & gender, instead just the concept to be more fluid than it is now. So instead of labeling people as one sexuality or another & trying to force themselves or other people to stick to those labels, they could just let their sexuality do whatever it wants.[/QUOTE] Getting rid of them wouldn't work, because they're deeper than sociologists like to admit. There is some root cause of gender itself, as well as sexuality, that is deeper than just socialization. Hell, there has been research in to sexuality indicating it stems primarily from individual factors, IE: prenatal conditions, hormones, and individual upbringing to a minor extent. Societal influence plays little role. Hence why even in societies where homosexuality is very strictly prohibited, where it is utterly unspoken, it still exists. When society provides no influences or awareness of homosexuality, it will still develop. So there absolutely has to be a cause that is not social. How these things manifest, how they are interpreted, and how they are responded to, that is social. Gender roles social creations. They are the ways societies respond to gender. But gender roles are not gender itself.

[QUOTE=Ithon;48669571]I wonder how many people will dismiss this because infowars.[/QUOTE] If it was Alex Jones hosting this video then yes, I would not believe anything in this video :v:, but its not so I'll give it a pass.

[QUOTE=dgg;48673250]Arguing on the internet. Just because she says something extreme doesn't mean we have to top it off by making it sound even more extreme. What she said was already extreme enough as it is. You don't fight fire with fire.[/QUOTE] yeah you could have like, removed all your posts in this thread, and said just that, and it would have been fine, but you instead went into a strange tirade about how people should hate this woman [I]less[/I] because she wants men imprisoned, not killed. it's still a stupid fucking statement dude, it's all extremism.

also wouldnt abolishing heterosexuality kill off humanity? like, who cares if her camps are full on death camps or not when everybody dies. man or otherwise.

[QUOTE=dgg;48669377]So you think prison is a concentration camp? Whenever we want to imprison people we should really have headlines "*** should be put in concentration camps" I feel extremely sorry for the jews for having their concentration camps during World War 2 compared to prison-like segregation.[/QUOTE] You gotta be trolling or something. Begin this close minded and stupid cant be possible.

[QUOTE=dgg;48669353]She does not wish their deaths, at all. There is nothing about death implied or stated in the segregation. It's stripping their rights away, like a prison. Not forcing them to slavery until death. It's a [B]HUGE[/B] difference.[/QUOTE] Dude, she could come with every single lawyer in the world saying "it actually isn't a death camp/concentration camp for men", nobody would be convinced.

In the end it doesn't matter what this crazy woman wants because every person with a brain in their head, male or female, would stand up and say "no this shit is fucked up, you can't do it". Still, the fact that she's this big of a public figure and can say this with no repercussions is pretty fuckin' scary.

[QUOTE=MedicWine;48674517] like, who cares if her camps are full on death camps or not when everybody dies. man or otherwise.[/QUOTE] I'm sure she has plans that involve harvesting the mens semen while they live in the internment camps. [QUOTE=Banned?;48672430]I've seen people argue for some insane stuff on Facepunch but I think dgg has surpassed any prior expectations I used to have.[/QUOTE] He got upset about Scat porn being put in the same category as Bdsm and argued in its favor for like 12 pages in a fast thread. Dunno. Likes to argue? He does have a point though. They aren't really death camps. The radical feminists want to keep straight men away from the general populace. Its more like the internment camps but with sexism instead of racism. [QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;48672173] holy moly dude. yowza![/QUOTE] People keep saying that these people don't [URL="http://i.imgur.com/V7eGL8g.png"]exist[/URL]

What the ever loving fuck. Is someone seriously suggesting a segregated society is good idea, completely ignoring the fact it will inhibit rights, it will cause violence amongst men and last of all it will be prison. Everything she has detailed has been word for word, prison. You don't deserve to speak if you think even [I]comprising[/I] a population's rights to protect another larger population's rights. Her entire idea is basically forcing every man into prostitution via the state and then giving women complete control over them.

Please go back to drawing 10 shitty versions of rats Dgg. For the love of everything.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;48674464]yeah you could have like, removed all your posts in this thread, and said just that, and it would have been fine, but you instead went into a strange tirade about how people should hate this woman [I]less[/I] because she wants men imprisoned, not killed. it's still a stupid fucking statement dude, it's all extremism.[/QUOTE] If you don't think there is a huge difference between wanting to imprison instead of kill someone then I don't know where to begin. It's going out of your way to hate a person by making shit up and putting words into their mouths. What she said was bad enough as it was, don't make up shit. [QUOTE=Rangergxi;48674670]He got upset about Scat porn being put in the same category as Bdsm and argued in its favor for like 12 pages in a fast thread. [/QUOTE] No, it was lumped in with vore, bestiality and snuff, stuff that actually harms others in the process, it didn't belong. 3 posts, the thread as a whole has barely tipped over to page 2. You know you're slightly biased against me when you didn't get a single point right. [editline]13th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=MedicWine;48674517]also wouldnt abolishing heterosexuality kill off humanity? like, who cares if her camps are full on death camps or not when everybody dies. man or otherwise.[/QUOTE] I believe what she wants is the concept of heterosexuality to be abolished, that people shouldn't fit into a box, you should just be attracted to whoever you're attracted to, you should just be sexual. But I don't know, couldn't read the interview because her arguments are loaded with terrible words like patriarchy and she's clearly extremists in her views and doesn't seek equality.

Im honestly at a loss on what you are trying to defend here. Whats your endgame for this?

[QUOTE=dgg;48674978]If you don't think there is a huge difference between wanting to imprison instead of kill someone then I don't know where to begin. It's going out of your way to hate a person by making shit up and putting words into their mouths. What she said was bad enough as it was, don't make up shit.[/QUOTE] I don't care if she wants to put all men in a zoo or all men in a concentration camp, it's still fucking bonkers and stupid. I mean does this semantics shit really matter, when no normal person would consider either of those statements to be sane? what are you trying to do here? why do you care about defending the ramblings of this woman? what are you trying to attain?