"They dont care about us" refugees living in fagersta camp, Sweden, hungering striking because the f - General

Also can anyone confirm that this video is actually true and not some anti-refugee propaganda? I'm not saying it is, but to just accept this video and its crappy subtitles as fact...

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;49115828]Also can anyone confirm that this video is actually true and not some anti-refugee propaganda? I'm not saying it is, but to just accept this video and its crappy subtitles as fact...[/QUOTE] Propaganda is the most powerful when it uses actual events to convey a message.

[QUOTE=morky;49115175]Send them back to Syria?[/QUOTE] I don't remember if it's EU Law or Swedish Law, but one of those state we're not allowed to deny or send home people who arrive from war-torn countries. This includes if the person it's about participated in the war. Which by extension includes ISIS warriors. [editline]14th November 2015[/editline] It's Swedish law. [url]http://sweref.org/barn/lagar_och_konventioner__barn_.aspx[/url] Translated: [quote]12 kap. 1 § Expulsion of a foreigner should never be enforced to a country where there are reasonable grounds to believe that - The foreigner would be in danger of the death penalty or becoming subjected to corporal punishment, torture or other inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.[/quote] [editline]14th November 2015[/editline] Oh, my bad, there is a bit further down where it states the exception for expulsion would be if the foreigner poses a threat to national security. But there are a ton of loopholes, which is why they (genuine ISIS warriors) are still allowed to come and stay. These guys in the video are just being a nuisance though. Not really a national threat.

[QUOTE=DarKSunrise;49114812]i really hate how guys like this are giving a bad rep to all refugees[/QUOTE] They're kind of giving themselves a bad rep. I used to be sympathetic, and I still am to those who genuinely seek refuge, but many of these people are immigrants and not refugees.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;49115986]I don't remember if it's EU Law or Swedish Law, but one of those state we're not allowed to deny or send home people who arrive from war-torn countries. This includes if the person it's about participated in the war. Which by extension includes ISIS warriors. [editline]14th November 2015[/editline] It's Swedish law. [url]http://sweref.org/barn/lagar_och_konventioner__barn_.aspx[/url] Translated: [editline]14th November 2015[/editline] Oh, my bad, there is a bit further down where it states the exception for expulsion would be if the foreigner poses a threat to national security. But there are a ton of loopholes, which is why they (genuine ISIS warriors) are still allowed to come and stay. These guys in the video are just being a nuisance though. Not really a national threat.[/QUOTE] And this is why the law needs to be changed, they should NOT be allowed to murder, torture, break human rights abroad and then come here and get to chill easily. And some PC politicians want to give them psychiatric help, rehabilitation into society, housing and get them jobs automatically because of this - while there is problems with housing and jobs already and that's even for native swedes.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;49116097]And this is why the law needs to be changed, they should NOT be allowed to murder, torture, break human rights abroad and then come here and get to chill easily.[/QUOTE] Kinda a slap in the face to liberal minded muslims wanting to live in a free democracy. Letting the genocidal slave running maniacs in...

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49114715]There were Syrian refugees who were offered lands and homes in the Uruguayan countryside, but they turned them down, on the account that "the school was too far away". So I guess the Uruguay's government don't care about them either, right?[/QUOTE] We have a comparable situation in Den Haag, the Netherlands two days ago. [video=youtube;-5TBtiRsDGs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5TBtiRsDGs[/video] They seriously refused to sleep inside the provsional refugee center in a old government building, because there were no televisions in their rooms and the toilets weren't modern enough to their taste. And the Dutch food they were getting was beneath their status. And that they don't get enough money from the government despite getting provided all the food for free. And that the wi-fi is bad. [URL="https://twitter.com/fritswester/status/664608520478830592"]And no free prepaid cards for their phones either.[/URL] So they shout that they rather go back to their country to be killed there. And as protest, they stayed outside for the night and the day after. Also note that the television is the first thing they do complain about. Now, you might ask, if they are staying outside, in the middle of a Den Haag living district where do they do their sanitary needs? Well, that got answered rather quickly. [URL="https://twitter.com/BobHGL/status/664900141376253952"]Right on the doorsteps and into the mailboxes of nearby houses.[/URL] But what about the food they were complaining about? Well, lemme show you that: [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTmzippVEAA8jbq.jpg[/IMG] [url]https://twitter.com/kranenburg1/status/664759841072750592/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw[/url] Oh, the horrors of eating bread with cheese and ham with a glass of milk as breakfast. It isn't like that is the completely usual breakfast for most Dutch citizens. Hell, I'm a student, and that is my daily breakfast right there. What the hell did they expect then? To get beef, kaviar and champagne for breakfast? Why the fuck are they so entitled? I am really fucking fed up with those whining welfare sponges. Those people are not fucking refugees if they seriously act like this. Real families fleeing from war are very grateful when they finally get to a safe country that is willing to keep them. These people in Den Haag are ungrateful economical immigrants with zero respect for our country, culture and values.

To be fair they're probably not familiar with ham

What a fucking joke. Also great way to state the issues you perceive you're facing by making a cheesy, shitty video and putting a MJ song over it. They said nothing about why they weren't happy, just that it "wasn't good enough"?

[QUOTE=Steele92;49116335]To be fair they're probably not familiar with ham[/QUOTE] And I also read people from Asia and Africa tend to be lactose intolerant, so basically all they could eat from that list is bread :v:

[QUOTE=Jordax;49116303][video=youtube;-5TBtiRsDGs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5TBtiRsDGs[/video][/QUOTE] Christ it's like a satire. Is that attractive woman who appears to have been doing quite well for herself seriously trying to imply that it would be better staying in syria where there's constant bombings, massacres, and sex slavery? Fucking incredible

[QUOTE=Elspin;49116443]Christ it's like a satire. Is that attractive woman who appears to have been doing quite well for herself seriously trying to imply that it would be better staying in syria where there's constant bombings, massacres, and sex slavery? Fucking incredible[/QUOTE] if you're saying you'd rather live in Syria than eat bad food then you've probably never been to or even seen photos from Syria

[QUOTE=RudeMcRude;49114758]Refugees need to stop bitching[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Mark364;49115246]Fucking pricks aren't entitled to anything. Fuck off back home.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=0x0000000C;49115317]These dipshits aren't entitled to shit.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=_Axel;49115335]If they're dissatisfied with this, they can go back to Syria[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=JohhnyCarson;49115656]Difficult to feel sympathy.[/QUOTE] To be quite honest, most of them are making it real damn hard to feel sympathy for their current "predicament". It's like all of the sudden, they waltz into Europe thinking they own the place, and pretty much whining about "first world problems". [QUOTE=Jordax;49116303]We a comparable situation in Den Haag, the Netherlands two days ago. [video=youtube;-5TBtiRsDGs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5TBtiRsDGs[/video] They seriously refused to sleep inside the provsional refugee center in a old government building, because there were no televisions in their rooms and the toilets weren't modern enough to their taste. And the Dutch food they were getting was beneath their status. And that they don't get enough money from the government despite getting provided all the food for free. And that the wi-fi is bad. [URL="https://twitter.com/fritswester/status/664608520478830592"]And no free prepaid cards for their phones either.[/URL] So they shout that they rather go back to their country to be killed there. And as protest, they stayed outside for the night and the day after. Also note that the television is the first thing they do complain about. Now, you might ask, if they are staying outside, in the middle of a Den Haag living district where do they do their sanitary needs? Well, that got answered rather quickly. [URL="https://twitter.com/BobHGL/status/664900141376253952"]Right on the doorsteps and into the mailboxes of nearby houses.[/URL] But what about the food they were complaining about? Well, lemme show you that: [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTmzippVEAA8jbq.jpg[/IMG] [url]https://twitter.com/kranenburg1/status/664759841072750592/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw[/url] Oh, the horrors of eating bread with cheese and ham with a glass of milk as breakfast. It isn't like that is the completely usual breakfast for most Dutch citizens. Hell, I'm a student, and that is my daily breakfast right there. What the hell did they expect then? To get beef, kaviar and champagne for breakfast? Why the fuck are they so entitled? I am really fucking fed up with those whining welfare sponges. Those people are not fucking refugees if they seriously act like this. Real families fleeing from war are very grateful when they finally get to a safe country that is willing to keep them. These people in Den Haag are ungrateful economical immigrants with zero respect for our country, culture and values.[/QUOTE] Pffft, the nerve. What the fuck is wrong with these people. I'm being reminded that when Polish, German, Italian, Dutch and pretty much *everyone* who abandoned Europe prior -and during- WWII, were extremely thankful for the hospitality in their new host countries. The best way to illustrate it would be with [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations]this graph[/url]: [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Clash_of_Civilizations_map.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;49115687]Why is everyone here talking about people being entitled to anything? Don't you just help people because that's what a normal human being would do? I'm not saying they aren't acting like stuck-up shits but why does everyone here only help people who 'deserve' it?[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? They were given food and shelter for free and they are protesting because they think they are entitled to better quality food. It's like a beggar would ask you for something to eat and you'd give him your own sandwich and he would throw it away and tell you he wants a steak. I can't believe a single one of these people is a war refugee. Someone who escaped hell is grateful for a slice of bread and a bit of roof above his head and certainly not going on a fucking hunger strike because he doesn't like the food. [editline]14th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Flumbooze;49115828]Also can anyone confirm that this video is actually true and not some anti-refugee propaganda? I'm not saying it is, but to just accept this video and its crappy subtitles as fact...[/QUOTE] Flat-earthers say all the photos from space are fake because it goes against their worldview. You're doing exactly the same thing.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;49116543]What are you talking about? They were given food and shelter for free and they are protesting because they think they are entitled to better quality food. It's like a beggar would ask you for something to eat and you'd give him your own sandwich and he would throw it away and tell you he wants a steak. I can't believe a single one of these people is a war refugee. Someone who escaped hell is grateful for a slice of bread and a bit of roof above his head and certainly not going on a fucking hunger strike because he doesn't like the food. [editline]14th November 2015[/editline] Flat-earthers say all the photos from space are fake because it goes against their worldview. You're doing exactly the same thing.[/QUOTE] You have to walk through quite a few countries to get to Germany, the Netherlands and France. They escaped the war the second they stepped into one of the countries willing to accepting them.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49116566]You have to walk through quite a few countries to get to Germany, the Netherlands and France. They escaped the war the second they stepped into one of the countries willing to accepting them.[/QUOTE] To be honest I can understand someone wants to go far away from the region where there are hundreds of thousands of other refugees, cause you know, chances are you're gonna have a better chance in central/northern europe than say in Lebanon that's basically overrun with refugees. But it's one thing to try to go far away from war and another to insist on going to Germany and only Germany and what these people are doing. I wouldn't mind taking those 20k or how many the EU is pushing on Poland now if they all were actual war refugees.

The first two look like spoiled and ignorant city youth who are still not aware what is going on. I bet(hope) the poorer refuges, that escaped with their families are more grateful than this.

Anyone who complains like this should be deported back. Countries need to be strong, they shouldn't allow themselves to be taken advantage by undeserving outsiders.

Today I had toast made out of non wheat bread and the butter is old and filled with old crumbs. It was delicious and I see these people getting good cheese, I'd fucking love it, do you know how hard it is to eat well when you rely on others to buy stuff that you resell? Not that hard, all I have is old computers right now though, only ghetto people who need a porn machine buy them pretty much. People like new shit. so my pockets are pretty much fucking empty. Thanks for dropping me out on no notice shitty AZ schools. Syrian refugees can send me their full milk cartons, bread and cheese if they don't like it.

If they don't like the food they get, why not give it to people that need it more then, since acting like this, it seems you don't need it. There are plenty of homeless and others in need in those nations

I hope this is only a loud minority. They can't be this fucking serious right?

Taking refugees in like this isn't going to help anyone. Syria is basically fucked even if they stabilized now that were effectively housing their future workforce.

This is a very different reality than the one they're showing on the news, where most refugees are old men, women and children stoically taking the worst life throws at them to seek a better life for them and their families. I just don't know, Europe's literally accepting these people with open arms so I guess they're your problem. Congratulations.

Goddamnit, there have been clips of refugees saying the exact opposite though, that they don't expect us to give them more, that they are happy we are helping them at all. Don't generalize please

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49117507]This is a very different reality than the one they're showing on the news, where most refugees are old men, women and children stoically taking the worst life throws at them to seek a better life for them and their families. I just don't know, Europe's literally accepting these people with open arms so I guess they're your problem. Congratulations.[/QUOTE] The reality is that it is a huge mix bag. There is no generalization because both extremes are present in substantial numbers. For every family of grateful refugees you can find and present, it is easy to find a video of a human wave of 20-40 year old men who are probably just here for the free pass.

I used to have sympathy for the refugees ... kinda. But that stopped after one of them stole my jacket at a refugee charity event where they got free food, my art teacher made my class go there. A few days later a refugee tried to threaten my mother off of a bench so he and his wife could sit there. Oh and a refugee from Syria molested a 12 year old girl in the town where i go to school, needless to say, he got sent back. I got told that he actually raped the girl, but I'm unsure about that because i don't wanna spread false information. My mother got the information from other refugees she talks to sometimes when she picks them up with her car. She works in a caring home and they brought the refugees in the empty flats.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;49116543] Flat-earthers say all the photos from space are fake because it goes against their worldview. You're doing exactly the same thing.[/QUOTE] can you read lol, he's not saying it is fake; he's asking if there's a possibility it is. He even says "I'm not saying it is" it's weird coz facepunch seems so anal retentive towards having reliable sources but i guess not when it's something like this

Send these unappreciative cunts back

[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;49117726]can you read lol, he's not saying it is fake; he's asking if there's a possibility it is. He even says "I'm not saying it is" it's weird coz facepunch seems so anal retentive towards having reliable sources but i guess not when it's something like this[/QUOTE] Yeah I can fucking read "lol". The only way this is fake is if someone would hire 30 people with that skin tone tell them what do and make the vid. First: That's fucking risky given how tense the situation about refugees is and how many people would have to be involved in filming this. Second: Is it really so unlikely that it's real, given what some "refugees" have been doing? And last, just because you put a question mark at the end of the sentence doesn't mean you're not suggesting anything. "I'm not saying that aliens are real and all but don't you wonder who leaves all those circles in the crops around the world?"

i fucking hate how, when refugees are put into camps, they expect to be treated like kings.