"They dont care about us" refugees living in fagersta camp, Sweden, hungering striking because the f - General

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;49118160] "I'm not saying that aliens are real and all but don't you wonder who leaves all those circles in the crops around the world?"[/QUOTE] Dude chill out, somebody asking for a more reputable source on a video about an extremely taboo subject isn't anywhere near the same as claiming the earth is flat or that aliens create crop circles are you even hearing yourself

[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;49118224]Dude chill out, somebody asking for a more reputable source on a video about an extremely taboo subject isn't anywhere near the same as claiming the earth is flat or that aliens create crop circles are you even hearing yourself[/QUOTE] What on earth are you bumbling on about? The aliens thing was an example of a suggestion with a question mark on the end of the sentence. And his post was doing just that. I also haven't said that wanting another source on this is the same as claiming the earth is flat. I said that assuming this is fake because it goes against your worldview is the same thing as when flat-earthers reject any proof against their worldview as fake (could be someone else, again flat-earthers were an example). Absolute lack of reading comprehension. You have not replied to anything that I have ACTUALLY said. Funny that it's coming from someone who asked "can you read lol".

Okay, then how about we get an actual reputable source for this video. It's a sad state of affairs when the majority of facepunch users would want a whole list of sources if it was something pertaining to video games or gamergate, but when it's refugees it's just taken at face value because "grr i sure do hate refugees"

[QUOTE=MILKE;49118047]Send these unappreciative cunts back[/QUOTE] Well she said she's considering going back on her own volition. :speechless:

[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;49118359]Okay, then how about we get an actual reputable source for this video. It's a sad state of affairs when the majority of facepunch users would want a whole list of sources if it was something pertaining to video games or gamergate, but when it's refugees it's just taken at face value because "grr i sure do hate refugees"[/QUOTE] Because gg and agg is filled with trolls and fake stories and drama queens and giant amounts of misinformation and censoring, it's basically narrative wars. So everything has to be confirmed. But with refugees you see them do similar things reported by reputable sources so it's not something that is very likely fake unlike anything concerning gamergate. Doesn't mean I wouldn't like a confirmation from another source on this, but it's not very unlikely that it actually happened.

As someone who works with homeless people, this fucking disgusts me.

All I can say is thank fucking god Australia is surrounded by water and we only take a small amount of these people. Good luck Europe I really hope that the vast majority of these people are not just advantage taking immigrant filth and actual refugees.

This fucking pisses me off. Everyone's saying 'they're the middle class of Syria trying to escape hell'. Yes, that's fine. But don't expect your easy middle class fucking lifestyle as a god damn refugee.

They should call people who complain about bad food to sign a petition with their name, then ask them to proceed to the place where they can receive it and.... BAM! Its a airplane trap with a trip back to Syria Fucking pig faggots.

You don't get better food in school so they better get used to it. I wanna add on and say that most refuges don't act like this at all, but those that do are the ones that get attention by the media.

[QUOTE=Evi.tf;49119754]You don't get better food in school so they better get used to it. I wanna add on and say that most refuges don't act like this at all, but those that do are the ones that get attention by the media.[/QUOTE] How can you be sure? I mean it's easy to say "Yeah this has got to be a small minority" but it's not like there's been any time for there to be objective unbiased studies of refugee behavior. Not taking a side either way, but I've read reports from organizations handling women's issues that there's wide scale harassment/rape/assault in the camps because they're such a high percentage male and there isn't really proper monitoring and policing.

[QUOTE=Elspin;49119810]How can you be sure? I mean it's easy to say "Yeah this has got to be a small minority" but it's not like there's been any time for there to be objective unbiased studies of refugee behavior. Not taking a side either way, but I've read reports from organizations handling women's issues that there's wide scale harassment/rape/assault in the camps because they're such a high percentage male and there isn't really proper monitoring and policing.[/QUOTE] Judging from posts from German users and some media it seems like this is also the case in German towns and cities.

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;49120141]Of course there are people who're thankful to escape a war, but they're literally being slandered by the people who think they should be treated like kings. There has been similar things happening in Finland too, where the refugees complain about the free food they were given and were demanding money instead. I really wish they'd just start shipping these ungrateful idiots back and let people who actually can appreciate kindness take their place[/QUOTE] i think that the problem there is that there are some kinds of stupid laws preventing us from doing that until they are a threat to national security or whatever and even when we eventually do ship them back, they have to be assigned a police escort and bought plane tickets which is very expensive and i don't think that we can even ship them anywhere without the receiving country's permission at least that's what i've heard, but i'm not sure if it's actually so

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;49120215]It seems that everybody is pretty clueless how this thing works, right up the ladder to the people who're making these decisions for us. It disgusts me that nothing will be done about this whole refugee problem before more people have to get hurt[/QUOTE] yeah unfortunately due to the way politics work it takes a long time to make any sort of change i just wish they would find a way to get rid of these jerkbags and still allow people in who really do need refuge

[QUOTE=Flumbooze;49115828]Also can anyone confirm that this video is actually true and not some anti-refugee propaganda? I'm not saying it is, but to just accept this video and its crappy subtitles as fact...[/QUOTE] the place they're living at has been in the local newspaper for that town a couple of times, due to how many refugees they take in, it's over their capacity. it exists and the video was uploaded by one of the refugees. when interviewed, the owners of the place "they're looking into it". there's no reason this is fake.

[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;49118359]Okay, then how about we get an actual reputable source for this video. It's a sad state of affairs when the majority of facepunch users would want a whole list of sources if it was something pertaining to video games or gamergate, but when it's refugees it's just taken at face value because "grr i sure do hate refugees"[/QUOTE] Funny enough, you're doing the exact same.

man look at all those healthy fighting-age men

Oh thank you sweden we get to live! We don't have to fear for our lives anymore! Bless you! Wait what? No flatscreen tv's? Fuck I guess I might as well kill myself.... ^ THIS IS ACTUALLY A THING CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN, WHY THIS IS AN ACTUAL SITUATION. I DONT GET IT AAAAAAA

[QUOTE=Strontboer;49133329]Oh thank you sweden we get to live! We don't have to fear for our lives anymore! Bless you! Wait what? No flatscreen tv's? Fuck I guess I might as well kill myself.... ^ THIS IS ACTUALLY A THING CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN, WHY THIS IS AN ACTUAL SITUATION. I DONT GET IT AAAAAAA[/QUOTE] They rejected offers to settle down from so many countries. They headed to Germany based on the promise of free stuff and more opportunity,

[QUOTE=Judas;49133323]fighting-age[/QUOTE] And? Like, I'm not arguing that some of the refugees aren't being ungrateful for their circumstances in Europe. I just don't like the idea of telling them "well you look healthy enough, shouldn't you be back in Syria getting shot and blown up?"

[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;49133355]And? Like, I'm not arguing that some of the refugees aren't being ungrateful for their circumstances in Europe. I just don't like the idea of telling them "well you look healthy enough, shouldn't you be back in Syria getting shot and blown up?"[/QUOTE] We're gleefully bleeding a country dry of young men who could do a lot towards rebuilding their country, that's the problem.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49133840]We're gleefully bleeding a country dry of young men who could do a lot towards rebuilding their country, that's the problem.[/QUOTE] Rebuilding, sure. But when people point out "fighting-age", it suggests to me fighting is what they have in mind for the people coming to Europe. I don't think anyone has any business telling others what they should risk their lives for.

Does anyone else think it's really odd that they are specifically demanding WIFI and TVs everywhere? Because if there was a good amount of terrorists in these groups WIFI would be exactly what they want for communication purposes.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;49135734]Does anyone else think it's really odd that they are specifically demanding WIFI and TVs everywhere? Because if there was a good amount of terrorists in these groups WIFI would be exactly what they want for communication purposes.[/QUOTE] Do you like WIFI and TV? Well, so do others.

I think there is a business in making a website that lists amenities and detailed reviews for each country to help refugees make a educated decision.

[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;49133355]And? Like, I'm not arguing that some of the refugees aren't being ungrateful for their circumstances in Europe. I just don't like the idea of telling them "well you look healthy enough, shouldn't you be back in Syria getting shot and blown up?"[/QUOTE] Yeah, better send Russian, French,US, etc. troops to die instead.

[QUOTE=Satansick;49135825]Do you like WIFI and TV? Well, so do others.[/QUOTE] The fuck kind of argument is this? They're supposedly refugees, looking for a nation that can keep their lives safe, not paying clients staying at a hotel that had those things listed in their "what your room includes" leaflet. But hey dude, I'd like some 4K projectors, fancy caviar, and a couple of bottles of bubbly. Send the bill to the Deutsch government. What do you mean you can't do that? You some kind of xenophobe, bud? Bring the tar and feathers, boys

[QUOTE=Rixxz2;49136256]The fuck kind of argument is this? They're supposedly refugees, looking for a nation that can keep their lives safe, not paying clients staying at a hotel that had those things listed in their "what your room includes" leaflet. But hey dude, I'd like some 4K projectors, fancy caviar, and a couple of bottles of bubbly. Send the bill to the Deutsch government. What do you mean you can't do that? You some kind of xenophobe, bud? Bring the tar and feathers, boys[/QUOTE] The guy was saying that they're terrorists for wanting WiFi and television, which is bullshit. You don't even know what you're talking about. Don't attack me with your hyperbole, it's pointless. Even in jail you can get television so it isn't that much to ask. These people aren't even prisoners so asking for WiFi shouldn't be that big of a deal either.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;49136071]Yeah, better send Russian, French,US, etc. troops to die instead.[/QUOTE] They volunteered to join the armed forces, which is the crucial thing here. You are absolutely free to risk your own life, but not force someone else to risk theirs.

[QUOTE=Satansick;49136286]The guy was saying that they're terrorists for wanting WiFi and television, which is bullshit. You don't even know what you're talking about. Don't attack me with your hyperbole, it's pointless. Even in jail you can get television so it isn't that much to ask. These people aren't even prisoners so asking for WiFi shouldn't be that big of a deal either.[/QUOTE] I didn't say they're terrorists, I said that it would be extremely helpful to terrorist communication lines, however. I'm not saying that every one of them that wants WIFI wants to use it for communicating with terrorists but can you not be open to the possibility that it's exactly what potential sleeper cells would want it for?