How to fix your posture by doing a 2 minute exercise twice a day. - General

[QUOTE=RaTcHeT302;50559938]No, I just don't know anything about this, but I would never tell people to watch a YouTube video in order to fix their health issues, instead they should approach a real doctor. I was mostly concered about people harming themselves if they didn't know what they were doing, I don't think an internet forum is a great place to discuss medical issues, no matter how safe it might be.[/QUOTE] If you actually watched the video before mouthing off while being on some high horse you'd realize this is as safe as stretching in the morning and is a method universally acclaimed for helping with posture.

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;50560425]The "I've got boneitis" and other obvious jokes are funny but don't fuck around with being too subtle. Like, did that guy really get nerve damage from doing this or is he fucking with us because it looks like he just taped a towel to his arm in 10 seconds and then took a picture. This isn't 4chan please don't try to actually maim people as a joke.[/QUOTE] This video gave me glass bones and paper skin. Every morning I break my legs, and every afternoon I break my arms. At night, I lie awake in agony until my heart attacks put me to sleep.

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;50560425]The "I've got boneitis" and other obvious jokes are funny but don't fuck around with being too subtle. Like, did that guy really get nerve damage from doing this or is he fucking with us because it looks like he just taped a towel to his arm in 10 seconds and then took a picture. This isn't 4chan please don't try to actually maim people as a joke.[/QUOTE] i had to amputate my entire lower body and replace it with a burlap sack filled with leaves

I just did this second time today, and holy shit, i can actually sit straight for a longer period of time now. But holy fuck did my shoulders crack a lot.

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I only did one rotation and holy shit. I know everyone has already said it works or that they thought it was a joke at first, but holy fuck it cannot be posted enough. Finally a one simple trick that works.

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50558751]Try this next guys: [img]http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aKqGrzZ_700b.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] what's this? i must've missed when it was a thing

[QUOTE=Eric95;50561131]what's this? i must've missed when it was a thing[/QUOTE] It's just like that one crystal bubble thing, and the water on red-hot spoon thing. don't do it

Chiropractic is one of the most popular 'bullshit that people don't realize is bullshit" things. Definitely up there with "shaving makes hair thicker" or "cold temperature gives you a cold". It's about as real as astrology and faith healing. The definition of chiropractic, and the story of how it was created, both make it obvious just how bullshit it is. Nevermind no studies support any of the clear quackery of it. [B]Definition[/B] [quote] a system of therapy which holds that [B]disease results from a lack of normal nerve function[/B] and which employs manipulation and specific adjustment of body structures (as the spinal column)[/quote] [URL="https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/chiropractic-a-brief-overview-part-i/"][B]History[/B][/URL] [quote]Chiropractic was founded in 1895 by Daniel David Palmer, a grocer with an [B]intense interest in metaphysics[/B]. Prior to his “discovery” of chiropractic, D.D. [B]Palmer was a magnetic healer.[/B] He also had interests in [B]phrenology[/B] (diagnosing disease based on the bumps of the skull) and [B]spiritualism[/B]. Palmer reported to have discovered the principle of chiropractic when he allegedly [B]cured a janitor of his deafness by manipulating his neck[/B]. [/quote] Looks like he believed in [I]lots[/I] of pseudoscience and bullshit. [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50559405]acupuncture works as a placebo, from what i've read. that doesn't mean it is bad, quite the opposite. i am of the opinion that if something works to psychologically remove pain then it should be used over something like opiates. if you feel like it is killing the pain, then it is doing the exact same thing as pharmaceutical painkillers without any side effects. really, we should be using placebo based painkilling methods far more, especially in america since we're extremely susceptible to the placebo effect in general [editline]20th June 2016[/editline] if you can fool yourself into thinking the pain is gone then your brain is already doing the exact same shit opiates would do except you aren't putting yourself at risk of addiction[/QUOTE] A novel idea would be treat the cause instead of masking it with painkillers or inducing delusion with the placebo effect. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50559328]Chiropractic therapy is real.[/quote] It is a thing that exists sure, but it does nothing. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50559328]It's not a "pseudoscience".[/quote] Well, except it is. [QUOTE=idiot;50559245]sounds like you've had a bad experience[/QUOTE] Or I took 2 seconds to look it up. [QUOTE=Pantz Master;50559169]Chiropractors are only snake oil salesmen when they're claiming to do clearly bogus things. It is true that some chiropractors claim that they can cure your cancer just by cracking your back. But chiropractors can also be more like physical therapists and actually help fix back and neck problems.[/QUOTE] Chiropractic is literally pseudoscience. It is alternative medicine. It's not based on fact, evidence, or science. It is absolutely in the same category as homeopathy, ayurveda, chakra, herbalism, etc.

[QUOTE=Eric95;50561131]what's this? i must've missed when it was a thing[/QUOTE] If you do that very carefully, slowly and with very little force, youll notice that it hurts a bit. If you do that with force, it is likely that youll break that tendon.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50559954]actual treatments shouldn't be replaced, but when it comes to pain reduction i feel we should be more open to alternative methods. as pain is a perception, it is as much psychological as it is physiological. if we could perhaps intertwine the clinical side and the more spiritual* side, it may end up working out better than through purely clinical methods *i am using spiritual in a more general sense, the intangible side of being human. your mental self, state-of-mind, experiences, and perceptions. the things about you that can't be measured, basically. perhaps psychological would be more appropriate, but i prefer spiritual for reasons i can't seem to explain.[/QUOTE] You are absolutely right, a more holistic approach to managing any medical condition is a much better idea and more effective than purely medical. Unfortunately that also costs a lot of money, time and manpower. If you are on a public health system the resources are stretched thin as it is and trying to get to the bottom of problems is mostly impossible due to the constraints above. If you have private insurance then it is an uphill battle against insurance companies who would do anything and everything they can do get you better with the cheapest option available. If you have the money and you pay out of pocket you can get pretty much the best care possible anyway.

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50558751]Try this next guys: [img]http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aKqGrzZ_700b.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] i did this and now there's mustard gas spewing from my wrists send help

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561169]Chiropractic is one of the most popular 'bullshit that people don't realize is bullshit" things. Definitely up there with "shaving makes hair thicker" or "cold temperature gives you a cold". It's about as real as astrology and faith healing. The definition of chiropractic, and the story of how it was created, both make it obvious just how bullshit it is. Nevermind no studies support any of the clear quackery of it. [B]Definition[/B] [URL="https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/chiropractic-a-brief-overview-part-i/"][B]History[/B][/URL] Looks like he believed in [I]lots[/I] of pseudoscience and bullshit. A novel idea would be treat the cause instead of masking it with painkillers or inducing delusion with the placebo effect. It is a thing that exists sure, but it does nothing. Well, except it is. Or I took 2 seconds to look it up. Chiropractic is literally pseudoscience. It is alternative medicine. It's not based on fact, evidence, or science. It is absolutely in the same category as homeopathy, ayurveda, chakra, herbalism, etc.[/QUOTE] Come on man, who gives a shit? Doing the thing on the video felt nice, who cares it's labeled as "Chiropractic"

wow this video fixed my back problems, asthma, social anxiety and got me a new job starting 80k after just one time!

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561169]Chiropractic is one of the most popular 'bullshit that people don't realize is bullshit" things. Definitely up there with "shaving makes hair thicker" or "cold temperature gives you a cold". It's about as real as astrology and faith healing. The definition of chiropractic, and the story of how it was created, both make it obvious just how bullshit it is. Nevermind no studies support any of the clear quackery of it. [B]Definition[/B] [URL="https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/chiropractic-a-brief-overview-part-i/"][B]History[/B][/URL] Looks like he believed in [I]lots[/I] of pseudoscience and bullshit. A novel idea would be treat the cause instead of masking it with painkillers or inducing delusion with the placebo effect. It is a thing that exists sure, but it does nothing. Well, except it is. Or I took 2 seconds to look it up. Chiropractic is literally pseudoscience. It is alternative medicine. It's not based on fact, evidence, or science. It is absolutely in the same category as homeopathy, ayurveda, chakra, herbalism, etc.[/QUOTE] Well, a broken clock is right twice a day

[QUOTE=ZpankR;50561282]Come on man, who gives a shit? Doing the thing on the video felt nice, who cares it's labeled as "Chiropractic"[/QUOTE] I do, since I am very strongly opposed to any pseudoscience and alternative medcine, as they do a lot of harm in many ways while doing nothing good for anybody, except the [I]charlatans[/I] lining their coffers with the profits of people's ignorance and/or fears.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561319]I do, since I am very strongly opposed to any pseudoscience and alternative medcine, as they do a lot of harm in many ways while doing nothing good for anybody, except the [I]charlatans[/I] lining their coffers with the profits of people's ignorance and/or fears.[/QUOTE] You are, without a doubt, the most cynical poster I've seen in years. How deep is that stick up there, exactly? If it works for people, let them do it. It's not affecting you in any way.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561319]I do, since I am very strongly opposed to any pseudoscience and alternative medcine, as they do a lot of harm in many ways while doing nothing good for anybody, except the [I]charlatans[/I] lining their coffers with the profits of people's ignorance and/or fears.[/QUOTE] there's bad chiropractors, sure, but just because something isn't out and out scientific doesn't mean it's complete malarkey, not to mention the mainstream usage of chiropractic treatments wouldn't be mainstream if it was all absolute bullshit. don't forget that every year there's fraud doctors giving placebo and horseshit treatments, or improper diagnosis for mental conditions that can afflict them socially in a permanent manner. You also have to remember that it originates from a time where medical science was still nowhere near as refined as it is today, so 'alternative medicines' weren't exactly unpopular by any means.

[QUOTE=RikohZX;50561437]the mainstream usage of chiropractic treatments wouldn't be mainstream if it was all absolute bullshit.[/QUOTE] That's a very naive and gullible worldview. Being believed by mainstream is not evidence of being right. Chiropractic is definitely not the only popular, commonly believed form of bullshit. Homeopathy says hi.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561169]Chiropractic is one of the most popular 'bullshit that people don't realize is bullshit" things. Definitely up there with "shaving makes hair thicker" or "cold temperature gives you a cold". It's about as real as astrology and faith healing. The definition of chiropractic, and the story of how it was created, both make it obvious just how bullshit it is. Nevermind no studies support any of the clear quackery of it. [B]Definition[/B] [URL="https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/chiropractic-a-brief-overview-part-i/"][B]History[/B][/URL] Looks like he believed in [I]lots[/I] of pseudoscience and bullshit. A novel idea would be treat the cause instead of masking it with painkillers or inducing delusion with the placebo effect. It is a thing that exists sure, but it does nothing. Well, except it is. Or I took 2 seconds to look it up. Chiropractic is literally pseudoscience. It is alternative medicine. It's not based on fact, evidence, or science. It is absolutely in the same category as homeopathy, ayurveda, chakra, herbalism, etc.[/QUOTE] Better let the canadian government know that it's bullshit because it's covered by medical because it's considered effective.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50561456]Better let the canadian government know that it's bullshit because it's covered by medical because it's considered effective.[/QUOTE] Placebo. It's called alternative medicine for a reason. Medicine that actually works is simply called medicine. Most people don't even know what chiropractic is. Most people think it's some fancy massage or they mistake it for physical therapy. Looking up what chiropractic actually is shows what it truly is, which is insane quacky wooism bullshit.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561449]You're in for a surprise. Chiropractic is definitely not the only popular, commonly believed form of bullshit. Homeopathy says hi.[/QUOTE] Homeopathy and chiropractic medicine, as much to your chagrin as this must be, are not in the same field. Chiropractic medicine deals with back pain, and that's IT. The alternative is prescription medicine, which, you might not like to admit, causes huge problems. Prescription medicine for back pain causes liver damage, kidney damage, stomach and intestine damage, as well as potential nerve damage, and NEVER cures the pain, just deals with symptoms. Prescription is something you'll have to take until you die. Pay for, UNTIL you die. Chiropractic therapy, in my experience, is a few sessions a month during problem times, and that's it. [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561461]Placebo. It's called alternative medicine for a reason. Medicine that actually works is simply called medicine. Most people don't even know what chiropractic is. Most people think it's some fancy massage or they mistake it for physical therapy. Looking up what chiropractic actually is quickly reveals the insane quackery of it.[/QUOTE] It's the shifting of the vertebrae to alleviate nerve pain. Seeing as all your nerves are in your spine, and they misalign all the time, it's not nearly as "Quacky" as you think it is.

I don't usually encounter anti-science folks on facepunch. Color me disappointed. I'm sorry that you can't accept the reality of chiropractic being pseudoscience,

Tell me quickly and easily Who makes more money off a person with back pain? The person selling a physical therapy that helps alleviate pain and correct positioning, or the person who sells you drugs that can only ever deal with the pain, and never the problem? Who's coffers are really being lined? [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561482]I don't usually encounter anti-science folks on facepunch. Color me disappointed.[/QUOTE] It's not anti science, it's anti your bullshit

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50561485]Tell me quickly and easily Who makes more money off a person with back pain? The person selling a physical therapy that helps alleviate pain and correct positioning, or the person who sells you drugs that can only ever deal with the pain, and never the problem? Who's coffers are really being lined? [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] It's not anti science, it's anti your bullshit[/QUOTE] No you're very cleary demonstrating anti-science beliefs by your claims and ignorance of non-fake medicine. You also are one of the previously mentioned people who confuse chiropractic (bullshit) with physical therapy (not bullshit). If it wasn't off topic I'd ask how you feel about vaccines.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561501]No you're very cleary demonstrating anti-science by your claims and ignorance of non-fake medicine. You're one of the previously mentioned people who confuse chiropractic (bullshit) with physical therapy (not bullshit).[/QUOTE] I've done physical therapy. I've done chiropractic therapy. They're both helpful, and they both cross over in terms of fields of work, at least they do in Canada. It would be anti science if I was against the alternative, having this as an alternative hardly makes me anti science, it makes me "pro options". [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] I'm pro vaccines. But nice try. Your smugness is literally pathetic.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561482]I don't usually encounter anti-science folks on facepunch. Color me disappointed. I'm sorry that you can't accept the reality of chiropractic being pseudoscience,[/QUOTE] What in the flying hell flew up your ass and made you king of the world? With your previous post, yes, I am a bit of a naive autistic neet, but now you're just shooting shots at everyone disagreeing and shooting you down. Way to be a constructive poster.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561169]A novel idea would be treat the cause instead of masking it with painkillers or inducing delusion with the placebo effect.[/QUOTE] no fuckin shit, sherlock. the entire point of painkillers are to mask the pain in order to improve quality of life while the actual cure does its work. if a placebo works to mask someone's pain then they're not deluding themselves any more than they are under painkillers, except instead of using external opioids they're causing their body to release endorphins via psychological tricks.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50561508]I've done physical therapy. I've done chiropractic therapy. They're both helpful, and they both cross over in terms of fields of work, at least they do in Canada. It would be anti science if I was against the alternative, having this as an alternative hardly makes me anti science, it makes me "pro options". [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] I'm pro vaccines. But nice try. Your smugness is literally pathetic.[/QUOTE] I'm just stating facts, not opinions, but freely available information. Anyway, modern chiropractors adopt many practices stolen from physical therapy, so it is possible to see benefits by visiting a chiropractor. But those practices aren't chirapractic, it's physical therapy. However, [B]real[/B] chiropractic, the core practices and beliefs, is simply false. It's in the same category as herbalism, homeopathy, magnetic healing, copper bracelets and other such charlatanism. Now to be fair, I'm sure some chiropractors genuinely believe that they can treat all sorts of ailments magically by pushing on your joints and don't actually do it with the intent of lining their coffers, but that doesn't add any validity to the pseudoscientific practice.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561558]I'm just stating facts, not opinions, but freely available information. Anyway, modern chiropractors adopt many practices stolen from physical therapy, so it is possible to see benefits by visiting a chiropractor. But those practices aren't chirapractic, it's physical therapy. However, [B]real[/B] chiropractic, the core practices and beliefs, is simply false. It's in the same category as herbalism, homeopathy, magnetic healing, copper bracelets and other such charlatanism. Now to be fair, I'm sure some chiropractors genuinely believe that they can treat all sorts of ailments magically by pushing on your joints and don't actually do it with the intent of lining their coffers, but that doesn't add any validity to the pseudoscientific practice.[/QUOTE] There's a certain futility in trying to explain anything to you because you don't care, don't want to hear it, and won't bother to give anything the time of day because you're the arbiter of reasonable treatment, no one else can be you are. In all my time with chiropractors, the only thing they ever claimed to be able to even HELP with, not cure, HELP with, is back pain. They never talk about larger benefits, they never did any of that sort of thing. They talked about "We can relieve some tension that's built up on your l4 because of the way this vertebrae is locked into the other one" which, he could verify with fucking xrays he'd had taken 20 minutes prior. Chiropractic therapy in Canada, vetted by our healthcare specialists who are a hell of a lot smarter than you, is considered real treatment. You don't hold more authority than my government on the topic, and I wouldn't really trust you to be better informed, so what do you have for me that's persuasive besides your fucking rhetoric?