How to fix your posture by doing a 2 minute exercise twice a day. - General

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562126]No it's just like every other common misconception. Lots of people think it's real including 'people in charge'. It's not different from the belief that being in cold weather makes you get a cold or shaving hair makes it grow back thicker. Tons of people believe it, tons of people believe 100% that it is true and tons of people would swear that it works/has happened to them.[/QUOTE] Oh good, you think governments and medical professionals are this stupid, but you think you're that much smarter than them. no wonder we can't talk like people and instead this is you talking down to a whole thread.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562126]I'm smarter than medical professionals who've done research on chiropractics, as well as government officials who reviewed the evidence and decided to cover it under national healthcare services. Why? Because I say so.[/QUOTE]

Canada is pro vaccine. Canada is pro-chiropractic therapy. How weak is your correlation dude

[QUOTE=hoodoo456;50562145]ad hominem mockery[/QUOTE] You might have a point if I was pulling things out of my ass and there wasn't a consensus that chiropratic is bunk and a large amount of scientific evidence in support of it being bunk. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50562164]Canada is pro vaccine. Canada is pro-chiropractic therapy. How weak is your correlation dude[/QUOTE] It's so weak, that it doesn't exist since I never said that?

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562167]You might have a point if I was pulling things out of my ass and there wasn't a consensus that chiropratic is bunk and a large amount of scientific evidence in support of it being bunk.[/QUOTE] but there isn't a consensus that chiropratics is bunk, the canadian government literally covers it under their national health service :v:

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562167]You might have a point if I was pulling things out of my ass and there wasn't a consensus that chiropratic is bunk and a large amount of scientific evidence in support of it being bunk.[/QUOTE] explain why governments and insurance companies who would be on the hook for millions, if not billions in liability, would do this? Why would they take a million dollar risk or more on bunk pseudoscience? Is there even a hint of chance that they know something you don't? Wait Can someone know something you don't?

Like what, do you think the Canadians are just like "well we [I]know[/I] it's bullshit but let's cover it anyways just for giggles"

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562126]No it's just like every other common misconception. Lots of people think it's real including 'people in charge'. It's not different from the belief that being in cold weather makes you get a cold or shaving hair makes it grow back thicker. Tons of people believe it, tons of people believe 100% that it is true and tons of people would swear that it works/has happened to them. As for the implication that I am a conspiracy theorist? Well, personally I would prefer if conspiracy theorists would just drink the koolaid so I don't have to see their stupid shit all the time or have their stupid shit affecting the real world (see: people not vaccinating kids)[/QUOTE] Cold weather does correlate with getting a cold genius, get with the times. [url]http://www.pnas.org/content/112/3/827[/url]

[QUOTE=hoodoo456;50562178]but there isn't a consensus that chiropratics is bunk, the canadian government literally covers it under their national health service :v:[/QUOTE] There is, but it doesn't exist because it contradicts you, only evidence that supports you is real.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562167] It's so weak, that it doesn't exist since I never said that?[/QUOTE] You literally quiped at me at the beginning of this horse shit that you thought I was an anti vaccer. If that doesn't say something about how you view the discussion as a whole, and how much of a dismissive person you are then nothing does. You've come at this from a "Fuck you idiots" perspective from the beginning of the thread, no one can educate you because you know everything, that's been your opinion all thread.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562190]There is, but it doesn't exist because it contradicts you, only evidence that supports you is real.[/QUOTE] So why are you apparently smarter than both the trained medical professionals who've researched it, and the government officials who decided it's a valid procedure to cover?

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;50562186]Cold weather does correlate to getting a cold genius, get with the times.[/QUOTE] No, the cold virus is more common in the winter, but being cold does not induce/infect you with a cold which is what a lot of people assume is true since hey it kinda makes sense that being very cold gives you a cold.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562190]There is, but it doesn't exist because it contradicts you, only evidence that supports you is real.[/QUOTE] says the guy ignoring two studies and multiple governments backing the opposite horse

seriously dude, did a chiropractor rape and murder your wife and son or something?

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562203]No, the cold virus is more common in the winter, but being cold does not induce/infect you with a cold which is what a lot of people assume is true since hey it kinda makes sense that being very cold gives you a cold.[/QUOTE] from the fucking extract of that study [quote]Rhinovirus is the most frequent cause of the common cold, as well as one of the most important causes of asthma exacerbations. [B]Most rhinovirus strains replicate better at the cooler temperatures found in the nasal cavity than at lung temperature, but the underlying mechanisms are not known[/B]. Using a mouse-adapted virus, we found that airway epithelial cells supporting rhinovirus replication initiate a more robust antiviral defense response through RIG-I–like receptor (RLR)–dependent interferon secretion and enhanced interferon responsiveness at lung temperature vs. nasal cavity temperature. Airway cells with genetic deficiencies in RLR or type I interferon receptor signaling supported much higher levels of viral replication at 37 °C. [B]Thus, cooler temperatures can enable replication of the common cold virus, at least in part, by diminishing antiviral immune responses.[/B][/quote] bolded the extremely important part. while more studies should definitely be done, there's certainly evidence for colds [I]in part[/I] being caused by colder weather.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562203]No, the cold virus is more common in the winter, but being cold does not induce/infect you with a cold which is what a lot of people assume is true since hey it kinda makes sense that being very cold gives you a cold.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.pnas.org/content/112/3/827]Like I said[/url] (relinking seeing as you missed the link) [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWiOhlqEDz4[/media] get with the times

[QUOTE=hoodoo456;50562202]So why are you apparently smarter than both the trained medical professionals who've researched it, and the government officials who decided it's a valid procedure to cover?[/QUOTE] I don't know why everyone keeps parroting "you" "you" "you". I'm not the one who made the studies and I didn't put them there. [I]"I"[/I] have nothing to do with the studies or evidence. [I]"I"[/I] am not relevant at all to this discussion. If I was never born these studies that contradict you but don't exist, (but do exist), or don't count because the public health insurance in Canada, which is of course the final word, covers it, would still exist. [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=bdd458;50562228]from the fucking extract of that study bolded the extremely important part. while more studies should definitely be done, there's certainly evidence for colds [I]in part[/I] being caused by colder weather.[/QUOTE] Well thank you for citing this study which only agrees with and confirms what I said which is that a cold is caused by a virus, not 'being in cold weather' which is a common belief.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562248][B]I don't know why everyone keeps parroting "you" "you" "you".[/B][/QUOTE] Because you're the one who keeps hammering down on how horrible and useless and harmful chiropractics are despite governments paying for the cost of them, which they wouldn't do if there was nothing to them (or if they're outright harmful). You're just straight up ignoring any kind of evidence that they might, in some way, possibly be helpful. The thought of them doing anything benificial seems like it's downright alien to you, for some reason, despite the fact that again, [I]governments and doctors agree it has some uses[/I]

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562248]Well thank you for citing this study which only agrees with and confirms what I said which is that a cold is caused by a virus, not 'being in cold weather' which is a common belief.[/QUOTE] Real question, are you blind? Because I have a feeling you are because you aren't actually reading what anyone is saying. Like, I even made sure to put the important parts in bold, ie the parts that say colder temperatures do in fact seem to play a role in the replication of the common cold virus.

Yeah chiropracty is barbaric and evil, what does it have to do with this thread? The video is about fixing posture by building muscle memory.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562248]I don't know why everyone keeps parroting "you" "you" "you". I'm not the one who made the studies and I didn't put them there. [I]"I"[/I] have nothing to do with the studies or evidence. [I]"I"[/I] am not relevant at all to this discussion. If I was never born these studies that contradict you but don't exist, (but do exist), or don't count because the public health insurance in Canada, which is of course the final word, covers it, would still exist. [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] Well thank you for citing this study which only agrees with and confirms what I said which is that a cold is caused by a virus, not 'being in cold weather' which is a common belief.[/QUOTE] The pedantry is literally fucking astounding Cold exacerbates the common cold. No one, or at least, very few people believe that being cold is the sole source of a cold You, however, HAVE been acting like that evidence is the last word in the discussion, that there is no more to learn, no more to know, you have been claiming that it's bunk, and that going forward there is nothing to know about it beyond that. Apparently, that's not a medical consensus as people do want to research more into it to see more and learn more. Just because you're allergic to information doesn't mean the medical industry is going to be as well.

[QUOTE=hoodoo456;50562286][I]governments and doctors agree it has some uses[/I][/QUOTE] Which are obviously talking about the parts which are taken from physical therapy, and not actual chiropractic practices or beliefs which are pseudoscience (and no, they aren't all "things that chiropractors stopped believing 100 years ago" either) [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50562308]The pedantry is literally fucking astounding Cold exacerbates the common cold. No one, or at least, very few people believe that being cold is the sole source of a cold You, however, HAVE been acting like that evidence is the last word in the discussion, that there is no more to learn, no more to know, you have been claiming that it's bunk, and that going forward there is nothing to know about it beyond that. Apparently, that's not a medical consensus as people do want to research more into it to see more and learn more. Just because you're allergic to information doesn't mean the medical industry is going to be as well.[/QUOTE] Okay, and like I said before, it's funny that you are allergic to information that says it's bullshit. [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=bdd458;50562297]Real question, are you blind? Because I have a feeling you are because you aren't actually reading what anyone is saying. Like, I even made sure to put the important parts in bold, ie the parts that say colder temperatures do in fact seem to play a role in the replication of the common cold virus.[/QUOTE] Okay and that means you get infected by a virus not 'get a cold by being cold for extended periods of time' which is what I said right from the start so shut up and stop talking about some irrelevant tidbit.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562309][B]Which are obviously talking about the parts which are taken from physical therapy,[/B] and not actual chiropractic practices or beliefs which are pseudoscience (and no, they aren't all "things that chiropractors stopped believing 100 years ago" either)[/QUOTE] And yet, it's still chiropractic medicine. Just because [I]it's totally taken from the real stuff guys[/I] (which you aren't exactly supplying a wealth of proof for) doesn't mean it isn't chiropractic.

Might as well go to a gym and shit down everybody's neck for being "charlatans with chiropractic beliefs" too.

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;50562338]Might as well go to a gym and shit down everybody's neck for being "charlatans with chiropractic beliefs" too.[/QUOTE] Why would I do that? Exercise is not chiropractic, and personal trainers aren't charlatans. Exercise is (sometimes) effective at treating physical ailments (depending on the cause) It's not like there is any scientific evidence against exercise treating some types of ailments caused by muscle weakness, excessive weight, or flexibility issues.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562356]Why would I do that? Exercise is not chiropractic, and personal trainers aren't charlatans. Exercise is (sometimes) effective at treating physical ailments (depending on the cause)[/QUOTE] This video isn't chiropractic, it's an exercise, why would you shit up this thread for 5 pages? It's almost as if bad posture is a physical ailment that could be corrected with the right exercise!!

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562309]Which are obviously talking about the parts which are taken from physical therapy, and not actual chiropractic practices or beliefs which are pseudoscience (and no, they aren't all "things that chiropractors stopped believing 100 years ago" either) [editline]21st June 2016[/editline] As you are allergic to information that says it's bullshit right?[/QUOTE] I'm allergic to you telling me what other people believe when none of them peddle what you claim they peddle. As a person who's done both Physical Therapy, and chiro, they're different and do different things. One is more exercise and effort based, the other is more passive and more relieving of pain. You keep conflating DD palmer with modern people who don't agree with that. You keep acting like chiropractic medicine hasn't changed even one iota since then. You act like no one has any conflicting information on the subject, you act like the consensus is made, stuck, and will never change. That's by definition, not a scientific mindset.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50561169]Chiropractic is one of the most popular 'bullshit that people don't realize is bullshit" things. Definitely up there with "shaving makes hair thicker" or "cold temperature gives you a cold". It's about as real as astrology and faith healing. The definition of chiropractic, and the story of how it was created, both make it obvious just how bullshit it is. Nevermind no studies support any of the clear quackery of it. [B]Definition[/B] [URL="https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/chiropractic-a-brief-overview-part-i/"][B]History[/B][/URL] Looks like he believed in [I]lots[/I] of pseudoscience and bullshit. A novel idea would be treat the cause instead of masking it with painkillers or inducing delusion with the placebo effect. It is a thing that exists sure, but it does nothing. Well, except it is. Or I took 2 seconds to look it up. Chiropractic is literally pseudoscience. It is alternative medicine. It's not based on fact, evidence, or science. It is absolutely in the same category as homeopathy, ayurveda, chakra, herbalism, etc.[/QUOTE] Normally I'd agree with you. However, look at the video that was posted about the teenager with the kyphosis. He clearly used scientific methods and diagnostic medicine. He clearly understood what was going on, and explained with cold hard facts what was wrong and was able to take steps to correct it as a result. He was able to measure the electric flow of nerves, and determine which nerves were damaged or pinched. He was able to use x-rays to determine which discs were out of alignment was was capable of correcting them. Clearly, you and I have some reconsidering to do. That said I would still see a sports physical therapist before I saw a chiropractor.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;50562309] Okay and that means you get infected by a virus not 'get a cold by being cold for extended periods of time' which is what I said right from the start so shut up and stop talking about some irrelevant tidbit.[/QUOTE] I've had more productive discussions with creationists than I have had with you, a supposed paragon of science. HybridTheory: Being in the cold does correlate with getting a cold, links to study You: Nuh uh!!!!! Me: Uh, here's the extract yes it does due to the increased replication of the virus in colder weather. You: Thanks for confirming what I already know!!!! Me: Did you miss the important part??? colder temperatures do in fact seem to play a role in the replication of the common cold virus You: NO ITS STILL JUST A VIRUS!!!! Thus, it can be deduced from those studies and data (among other studies that the NAS has published corroborating that story) shows that being in the cold does seem to correlate with an increased risk for getting a cold. so yes, being the cold does make you more likely to get a cold based upon the research and data we actually have. or is all that just pseudoscience too

Here is another exercise that may be able to help with posture. It's done good things for me. It's called the thoracic bridge. [url]https://www.t-nation.com/training/30-second-mobility-cure[/url]