Not to sound shitty or condone harassment or anything but it seems kind of weird how quickly some of you are to act like CWC is some kind of totally innocent victim.
You remember those times he's stalked, harassed, and assaulted people over dumb bullshit right? Like drawing porn of of himself and someone he knew in real life to prove he was straight (just one of many in a long list of examples regarding his inability to not sexualize literally every woman he knows), macing a gamestop employee for a Sonic marquee, and trying to run over someone else with a car? And from what i understand (i may be mistaken, correct me if i am), he's pretending to be trans to try and get laid. Plus a lot of homophobia alongside all that.
Like i'm not really even weighing in on the video, but still.
[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52883358]I feel bad for Chris Chandler. He should have been put in a group home ages ago instead of being a guinea pig for people on the internet. It's mostly his parent's fault but also the fault of various services. In general it's sickening how this has been going on for a decade.[/QUOTE]
Last i heard he's kind of an awful person, even considering his circumstances. Also, i think some people have tried, but he just refuses to get help.
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;52883381]well on that we can disagree, but id seriously suggest you read more into chris before getting angry over people covering him[/QUOTE]
i know everything about CWC. why do you think i keep referring to him as CWC? yes, he thrives off the negative attention he receives and likes being in the public eye. it's not an excuse to enable him.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;52883383]Not to sound shitty or condone harassment or anything but it seems kind of weird how quickly some of you are to act like CWC is some kind of totally innocent victim.
You remember those times he's stalked, harassed, and assaulted people over dumb bullshit right? Like drawing porn of of himself and someone he knew in real life to prove he was straight, macing a gamestop employee for a Sonic marquee, and trying to run over someone else with a car?
Like i'm not really even weighing in on the video, but still.
Last i heard he's kind of an awful person, even considering his circumstances. Also, i think some people have tried, but he just refuses to get help.[/QUOTE]
I said nothing about Chris being innocent. I know full well how much of a horrible person he is. That doesn't mean he deserves to have more harassment thrown onto him.
[QUOTE=kariko;52883377]And I ask again, does it make this okay? Not really directed at you since you didn't say that but more in general. That could be a million entirely new set of people. I don't know how throwing more fuel into a fire is okay because the fire is already big.[/QUOTE]
The people who would be keen on "abusing" Chris Chan are probably already aware of him. At this point he's so past that point in terms of how insane he is that a bunch of newcomers trying to start shit would not be able to achieve much.
Not all of these people are going to try and even contact Chris Chan, an absurd fraction is going to if any at all. It may prompt more people to read up on him but that's all that will happen.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;52882972]i think he should take this down, CWC is going to get a lot more harassment than usual now[/QUOTE]
It's way too late for that now, enough people have seen it. Besides, archivists have probably already downloaded the video for rehosting, just in case he does take it down.
[QUOTE=kariko;52883387]I said nothing about Chris being innocent. I know full well how much of a horrible person he is. That doesn't mean he deserves to have more harassment thrown onto him.[/QUOTE]
Chris Chan has successfully convinced himself that he has a legitimate fanbase, and has recently been talking about how he's actually possessed by a fictional video game character who used to live in his dreamcast. Do you [I]honestly[/I] think people who watch this video will suddenly learn how to even get to him ?
He's [I]way[/I] past people antagonizing him, by now he's completely phased them out.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52883393]Chris Chan has successfully convinced himself that he has a legitimate fanbase, and has recently been talking about how he's actually possessed by a fictional video game character who used to live in his dreamcast. Do you [I]honestly[/I] think people who watch this video will suddenly learn how to even get to him ?[/QUOTE]
I don't understand the excuse of "it's already bad so making it worse is okay".
[QUOTE=kariko;52883394]I don't understand the excuse of "it's already bad so making it worse is okay".[/QUOTE]
My point is, there's no "making it worse". It's just not going to do anything.
He's completely past petty harassment by now. If you read up on him you'd know that. The guy lives in his own little reality and yet another video popping up describing his situation isn't going to change that.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;52883359]yes, like it or not he has a lot of influence and he should be conscious of how he throws that influence around.[/QUOTE]
I would agree if Felix actually was sicking people after Chris, but he wasn't. The video was presented as a cautionary tale because lets face it, CWC's life is just that. And lets not even pretend Chris is some innocent angel here either that hasnt been exposed to a wider audience or hasnt been trying to get himself back in the spotlight through any means he can find.
[QUOTE=kilerabv;52883403]I would agree if Felix actually was sicking people after Chris, but he wasn't. The video was presented as a cautionary tale because lets face it, CWC's life is just that. And lets not even pretend Chris is some innocent angel here either that hasnt been exposed to a wider audience or hasnt been trying to get himself back in the spotlight through any means he can find.[/QUOTE]
1) Even if he doesn't say 'go and abuse this guy', people are going to watch and say 'lets abuse this guy'
2) I've never once said that CWC is a good person, or that he doesn't like this sort of attention. I've just said that's bad, full stop.
Let's not forget the part where the community that archives/follows chris chan around has actually evolved into almost kind of a safety net around him by now. It used to be made of people who'd harass him and try to troll him but over time that community started to discourage that kind of behavior and a lot of them only get in contact with chris to actually help him out, if only out of pity.
It's thanks to that same community of "harassers" that Chris Chan actually saw a doctor about that literal gashing wound he had which he was convinced was a vagina he gave himself via hypnosis. Since Chris has many times refused the help of more competent services (which, btw, were contacted by that same community), this is the closest he'll ever get to some kind of help from an outside source.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52883410]Let's not forget the part where the community that archives/follows chris chan around has actually evolved into almost kind of a safety net around him by now. It used to be made of people who'd harass him and try to troll him but over time that community started to discourage that kind of behavior and a lot of them only get in contact with chris to actually help him out, if only out of pity.
It's thanks to that same community of "harassers" that Chris Chan actually saw a doctor about that literal gashing wound he had which he was convinced was a vagina he gave himself via hypnosis. Since Chris has many times refused the help of more competent services (which, btw, were contacted by that same community), this is the closest he'll ever get to some kind of help from an outside source.[/QUOTE]
They also paid for the repairs to his house when it got set on fire that one time, right?
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52883400]My point is, there's no "making it worse". It's just not going to do anything.
He's completely past petty harassment by now. If you read up on him you'd know that. The guy lives in his own little reality and yet another video popping up describing his situation isn't going to change that.[/QUOTE]
I read his entire wiki for hours. I know who he is and how he is. Assault on multiple people across past and present, drawing porn of his friend, doing bizarre shit on camera for trolls, being a racist. I know, I'm not in the dark about it at all.
I still don't think it's okay to do this. Just because someone is horribly shitty and won't ever change their ways doesn't mean that it's okay to pile more shit on top of them.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;52883406]1) Even if he doesn't say 'go and abuse this guy', people are going to watch and say 'lets abuse this guy'
2) I've never once said that CWC is a good person, or that he doesn't like this sort of attention. I've just said that's bad, full stop.[/QUOTE]
Once again Chris Chan has learned how to deal with people like this a loooong time ago and he's literally not sane enough to be actually afflicted by average harassment and internet bullying.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;52883417]They also paid for the repairs to his house when it got set on fire that one time, right?[/QUOTE]
They did. They're also financing his patreon which, surprisingly, actually lead to chris chan [I]obliging to his paid duties[/I] and publishing the comic again. If I were an optimist I'd say chris is almost learning how employment works.
[QUOTE=kariko;52883420]I read his entire wiki for hours. I know who he is and how he is. Assault on multiple people across past and present, drawing porn of his friend, doing bizarre shit on camera for trolls, being a racist. I know, I'm not in the dark about it at all.
I still don't think it's okay to do this. Just because someone is horribly shitty and won't ever change their ways doesn't mean that it's okay to pile more shit on top of them.[/QUOTE]
Do what exactly, inform people ? The notion that this video would actually cause damage is pretty fucking fantastical. Pewdiepie doesn't even recommend taking contact with him, or reproducing the kind of trolling that people pulled on him years ago. He even calls one of the trolls a sociopath for pulling this shit on him.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52883434]
Do what exactly, inform people ? The notion that this video would actually cause damage is pretty fucking fantastical. Pewdiepie doesn't even recommend taking contact with him, or reproducing the kind of trolling that people pulled on him years ago.[/QUOTE]
He doesn't have to call on people to attack him. People are assholes and will do it anyways. It's not the entire chunk of people who watched it but it will still happen.
[QUOTE=kariko;52883439]He doesn't have to call on people to attack him. People are assholes and will do it anyways. It's not the entire chunk of people who watched it but it will still happen.[/QUOTE]
I feel like thats kind of an odd thing to pin Pewdiepie on, that'd happen for pretty much anyone doing anything on anything.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;52883443]I feel like thats kind of an odd thing to pin Pewdiepie on, that'd happen for pretty much anyone doing anything on anything.[/QUOTE]
I'm not pinning it on pewdiepie because he can't control those assholes. But knowing that you have such an influence feels important to think about.
Chris-Chan needs involuntary treatment.
[QUOTE=Talvy;52883539]Chris-Chan needs involuntary treatment.[/QUOTE]
I honestly doubt that'd do anything to help at this point.
This is a train wreck in motion. You can't stop it. Embrace the dark side. Enjoy the carnage.
The worst thing about Chrischan is that no matter how this ends, it's going to be depressing.
