• Ben Shapiro: The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority
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[QUOTE=Larikang;50542586]I think you're really afraid of Muslims and you like cherry picking data that support your fears. That same speaker's response to the Orlando shootings (check it out on islamnet.no): "Islam - and all rising Muslims - condemn such cold-blooded murder, period." These people may believe in Sharia law, but they aren't terrorists. As long as they are willing to operate within the law, what is the problem? There are plenty of crazy people in democratic countries who support ridiculous political causes (*cough* TRUMP *cough*), but what can you do other than hope that the democratic system is resilient to such harmful ideas?[/QUOTE] My point is that although politically incorrect, isolation may have to occur if it means finding an efficient way of vetting Syrian refugees so that we do not have a clash of cultures. Although Trump acts like a jackass - he is right. Looking at countries like Sweeden - it is quite evident that allowing large numbers of refugees has exponentially increased rape crimes. There are also accounts of refugees refusing service from female doctors in Germany and even going so far as to spit on them. Also,believing and acting upon punishments like stoning is most certainly unlawful - in Western culture at least. [editline]18th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Zyler;50542826]Not really, since there's a big difference between supporting something and actually going out and doing it. It'd be like if you went to a poor black community in the US and conducted interviews and asked people if shooting police officers was ever justified. You might have a higher than average number of people agreeing to the sentiment but there's a big difference between the number of people who support the thing versus the number who'd actually do it. Plus a number of those people are probably thinking in terms of the Israeli/Palestine situation with the "is it ever justified" question rather than supporting blowing up a hospital in the United States or something like that. It's not something they would regularly support except in extreme situations. There's a lot of support for Palestine in the Muslim community. It's like asking the question "is it ever okay to kill someone?" and then concluding that everyone who agreed is a bloodthirsty murderer.[/QUOTE] What the fuck? How could you ever defend people who support suicide bombings. It is clearly a terrorist act that takes the lives of innocent people. There is no possible way that someone could blow themself up as an act of defense. Any act ever is justified in the thoughts of whoever is commiting them. The question is asking those who are taking the survey if [B]they think[/B] suicide bombings are justified. It is like asking if someone supports the acts of radical racism commited by the KKK. Anybody who supports that is a racist - there is no in between.
[QUOTE=spekter;50542613]Yes this one room of Muslims represents the majority, clearly. Doesn't help when the vid description and end text are heavily racist either.[/QUOTE] OP is notoriously dense in support of alt-right stuff. Just treat his posts like troll posts and move on.
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;50540998]Shapiro is one of the hobgoblins who works at that rag Breitbart, nothing he says is worthy of any deep thought[/QUOTE] He was actually fired/left because he hates Donald Trump. There are all sorts of amusing spats between him and the bottle-blond fraud Milo Yiannopoulos on Twitter, it is quite entertaining.
Sorry about that. That video is inappropriate within regards to the discussion.
[QUOTE=dimitrik129;50542907]My point is that although politically incorrect, isolation may have to occur if it means finding an efficient way of vetting Syrian refugees so that we do not have a clash of cultures. Although Trump acts like a jackass - he is right. Looking at countries like Sweeden - it is quite evident that allowing large numbers of refugees has exponentially increased rape crimes. There are also accounts of refugees refusing service from female doctors in Germany and even going so far as to spit on them. Also,believing and acting upon punishments like stoning is most certainly unlawful - in Western culture at least.[/QUOTE] We should ban all religious people from the United States, including Christians. Their backwards views on women and LGBT rights are harmful and should not be allowed to foster. There are Christians who believe gays should be killed and think the rightful place for women is in the kitchen, therefore no Christian should be allowed in my country. Fuck democracy, fuck freedom of speech. If you have views I disagree with then you are not compatible with MY culture. [QUOTE]What the fuck? How could you ever defend people who support suicide bombings. It is clearly a terrorist act that takes the lives of innocent people. There is no possible way that someone could blow themself up as an act of defense. Any act ever is justified in the thoughts of whoever is commiting them. The question is asking those who are taking the survey if [B]they think[/B] suicide bombings are justified. It is like asking if someone supports the acts of radical racism commited by the KKK. Anybody who supports that is a racist - there is no in between.[/QUOTE] Did I say I supported anyone in that post? I simply stated that there's a difference between supporting something and going out and doing it. There's also a big difference between disliking Israel and supporting ISIS. There's also a big difference between thinking there are situations where killing someone is justified (like in self defense) and being a bloodthirsty murderer. It's like you didn't read the post at all and just assumed what you wanted to hear. You really love to jump to conclusions and seem to have very little understanding of nuance. I really dislike when people put words in my mouth.
[QUOTE=sgman91;50541520]Do you honestly not recognize Pew? It's one of the foremost polling agencies in the country, if not the world.[/QUOTE] The Pew survey on Muslims has been exposed as poorly done and badly inaccurate for a long time now and shouldn't be used as a source.
Unfortunately this applies to those ideologies that are not Westernised or brought up to the standards of the developed world. We don't do public executions, lashes, we don't dictate how you should live with coercion or threats of violence. The west has pushed our religious people forward with us. We need to kick a lot of sense into the more deeply Islamic peoples and places - HELL not just Islam but all religions and societies that prove to be a threat to the innocent. There isn't any phobia about that, its just common sense for the betterment of all people.
[QUOTE=TheBloodyNine;50545250]The Pew survey on Muslims has been exposed as poorly done and badly inaccurate for a long time now and shouldn't be used as a source.[/QUOTE] Are you talking about a legit discrediting or arm chair pollster discrediting?
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