Brett Gelman Talks About His Role In World Peace Cancellation
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Sam Hyde is not a normal person. He creates his act around making his audience as uncomfortable as possible. If you don't like him, that is a normal reaction. Maybe one day he'll go too far and he'll have to pay for that, but for now, I'm going to have fun watching him make people squirm. He's a sadist.
[QUOTE=cccritical;52793411]I'm honestly surprised that so much of Gelman's and Heidecker's attacks have been directed at Sam Hyde instead of Charls Carroll
Yeah, Hyde's sort of the ringleader, but he's never once come off as serious whereas I could see Carroll actually being somewhat far right
[editline]18th October 2017[/editline]
based just off MDE sketches, fuck if I know his actual beliefs[/QUOTE]
Charls has said on one of his streams that he's not an "alt-retard".
[QUOTE=madnath619;52793337]What are Sam Hyde's actual beliefs?[/QUOTE]
behaviour sink is real, whites are being unfairly demonised by jewish politicians, humanity is headed towards an absurd hell scape where nothing matters and no values are held, he was extremely pro-trump and anti-hillary, he roasted bernie but low-key supported him for a while
he is an extremely iconoclastic person and loves abstraction so it's hard to tell when he's being serious or just making a funny satirical meme to appeal to alt-righters, which he now embraces despite initially rejecting /pol/ and anti semitism in his mde [new stuff] vid description that's now been removed for some reason
personally i think he's just a highly neurotic dude who needs to work out some father issues
Sam Hyde is gg allin for pussies
[QUOTE=Gogeta SS4;52794853]...where's the comedy? He's just spouting anti-LGBT propaganda. There's no irony, no jokes, no real script, no anything but a childish attempt to disgust the audience. There's only so much you can justify with "it's ironic you don't get it" before it rings hollow.
The main issue with Sam's brand of humour is that it veers way too often into legitimate right-wing hate speech disguised as irony.[/QUOTE]
I find the skit hilarious. The audience reactions are hilarious. The statistics are quoted from true sources, that does not mean he "hates" gays or that they should promote people to feel hatred towards gays. I am half gay and know of gays who don't want to buy into the predominant gay subculture because it is promiscuous, hedonistic and devoid of meaning. Some gays are trash people. People like you today shun away "extreme" and "visceral" experiences while forgetting that this sort of thing makes life vivid and makes you think about problems among populations so long as you don't take the cheap, spontaneous Marxist "ban everything and label everyone as your enemy" route
[QUOTE=Mud;52797046]Sam Hyde is gg allin for pussies[/QUOTE]
thats probably the best comparison, it feels like hes trying to do outlandish shit to get a rise out of people and it definitely works but its also just not that interesting
Sam donated $5000 to the Daily Stormer. It's not a ruse. It sucks that his personal life got the show cancelled but Adult Swim was right to drop it before it started an even bigger controversy than it already had.
I still think Brett Gelman is just some SJW shmuck that made a baseless assumption and got lucky because Sam didn't really go full alt-right until after the show was cancelled.
If A Modest Proposal were written today, it'd be revealed Jonathan Swift was actually eating Irish children, and most of the fans extolling its satire would suddenly be saying there's nothing wrong with eating children anyway.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;52797556]If A Modest Proposal were written today, it'd be revealed Jonathan Swift was actually eating Irish children, and most of the fans extolling its satire would suddenly be saying there's nothing wrong with eating children anyway.[/QUOTE]
Are you comparing what you perceive to be -hatred- to eating children? I knew it! All Facepunch lefties are child eaters!
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;52795213]this is literally sams problem with WP too though. I guarantee that if Sam Hyde didn't constantly do dumb shit outside of the show like personally call up and abuse Tim Heidecker, personally abuse people on twitter and literally donate large chunks of money to stormfront and neo nazi groups the show wouldn't have been cancelled.
You can say "haha but its all an act" as much as you want, but he goes out of his way to support and help these political groups that are clearly racist with monetary support[/QUOTE]
Gonna need citation- actually donating to a group isn't comedy
[QUOTE=Evanlution;52797052]I find the skit hilarious. The audience reactions are hilarious. The statistics are quoted from true sources, that does not mean he "hates" gays or that they should promote people to feel hatred towards gays. I am half gay and know of gays who don't want to buy into the predominant gay subculture because it is promiscuous, hedonistic and devoid of meaning. Some gays are trash people. People like you today shun away "extreme" and "visceral" experiences while forgetting that this sort of thing makes life vivid and makes you think about problems among populations so long as you don't take the cheap, spontaneous Marxist "ban everything and label everyone as your enemy" route[/QUOTE]
There's an enourmous abyss between intelligent satire and what Sam is doing. If we generously assume that it's all irony and he doesn't actually believe all he's saying, then what is the point of the skit? Kaufman got much better reactions from the audience without treating a serious, sensitive topic as a punchline.
You can satirize minorities all you want, without offending anyone reasonable, but you have to actually say something meaningful or, you know, be funny. If you're not offended by the video that's fine, but you have to admit that it's tasteless and doesn't actually criticize much of anything.
I also find it funny that right wing reactionaries say leftists are against free speech, but the second a leftie speaks against anything they like they immediatelly flip out and start throwing stupid labels like "marxist" around without really knowing what they really mean.
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[QUOTE=Gogeta SS4;52798134]There's an enourmous abyss between intelligent satire and what Sam is doing. If we generously assume that it's all irony and he doesn't actually believe all he's saying, then what is the point of the skit? Kaufman got much better reactions from the audience without treating a serious, sensitive topic as a punchline.
You can satirize minorities all you want, without offending anyone reasonable, but you have to actually say something meaningful or, you know, be funny. If you're not offended by the video that's fine, but you have to admit that it's tasteless and doesn't actually criticize much of anything.
I also find it funny that right wing reactionaries say leftists are against free speech, but the second a leftie speaks against anything they like they immediatelly flip out and start throwing stupid labels like "marxist" around without really knowing what they really mean.
[IMG]https://my.mixtape.moe/vznefi.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
That skit isn't satire, and it's not pretending to be some smart thing. It isn't even normal comedy/standup. The purpose was to make the audience as uncomfortable as possible until they left. It's more akin to videogame griefing in real life than classical comedy. I would even say that might be his exact inspiration, considering he was raised by imageboards growing up. This isn't the first time they have done this, by the way. Check out An Inconvenient Anime.
[video=youtube;tynKRMVGsAI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tynKRMVGsAI[/video]
These guys had it even worse because Sam brought backup to block the doors, so they all had to sit there while Sam mocked them and rambled on about stupid bullshit like feudal japan using buster swords in real life for half an hour. The reason why he did anti-gay facts in your video was because he knew that would upset the audience a lot. They weren't even the audience, they were the target, the butt of the joke. Sam is the audience. Someone was dumb enough to give him a stage, a mic, and a whole crowd of people that disgusts him and he took full advantage of it. The TedTalk was his most famous example of this, and the closest to actual satire it got, but it was still just him sneaking onto a stage somewhere and wasting everybody's time because it amuses him.
[video=youtube;-yFhR1fKWG0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFhR1fKWG0[/video]
Bonus vid
[video=youtube;9Hkov3QcCpQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hkov3QcCpQ[/video]
I guess in closing i'm sick of people comparing these kinds of videos to regular comedy because he's not trying to do that. He's not trying to make you laugh. He's literally videogame griefing in real life.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;52798024]Gonna need citation- actually donating to a group isn't comedy[/QUOTE]
how is donating to a known hate group comedy?
thats literally the "haha just a prank BRO" mentality
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;52800943]how is donating to a known hate group comedy?
thats literally the "haha just a prank BRO" mentality[/QUOTE]
i've never seen these donations, i'm calling fake news brother
[QUOTE=Renegade Master;52801233]No, he really did donate 5k to Andrew Anglin so he could legally defend himself against southern poverty law center.
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-daily-stormer-20170602-story,amp.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[B]damn[/B] sam, that's 1 degree from just hitting the donation button on stormfront
[QUOTE=idiot;52800998]i've never seen these donations, i'm calling fake news brother[/QUOTE]
No, he really did donate 5k to Andrew Anglin so he could legally defend himself against southern poverty law center.
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-daily-stormer-20170602-story,amp.html[/url]
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;52800943]how is donating to a known hate group comedy?
thats literally the "haha just a prank BRO" mentality[/QUOte]
Read posts before replying to them
[QUOTE=idiot;52800998]i've never seen these donations, i'm calling fake news brother[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;52798024]Gonna need citation- actually donating to a group isn't comedy[/QUOTE]
List of funds Sam has donated to: [url]https://www.wesearchr.com/users/Night_0f_Fire#!projects_contributed[/url]
On this page ([url]https://www.wesearchr.com/bounties/identify-baked-alaskas-antifa-acid-attacker-in-charlottesvil[/url]) there's a video of Sam advocating for the fund. Someone else posted the LATimes article where Sam was questioned about his donation to the Daily Stormer fund.
[QUOTE=Renegade Master;52800747]That skit isn't satire, and it's not pretending to be some smart thing. It isn't even normal comedy/standup. The purpose was to make the audience as uncomfortable as possible until they left. It's more akin to videogame griefing in real life than classical comedy. I would even say that might be his exact inspiration, considering he was raised by imageboards growing up. This isn't the first time they have done this, by the way. Check out An Inconvenient Anime.
These guys had it even worse because Sam brought backup to block the doors, so they all had to sit there while Sam mocked them and rambled on about stupid bullshit like feudal japan using buster swords in real life for half an hour. The reason why he did anti-gay facts in your video was because he knew that would upset the audience a lot. They weren't even the audience, they were the target, the butt of the joke. Sam is the audience. Someone was dumb enough to give him a stage, a mic, and a whole crowd of people that disgusts him and he took full advantage of it. The TedTalk was his most famous example of this, and the closest to actual satire it got, but it was still just him sneaking onto a stage somewhere and wasting everybody's time because it amuses him.
Bonus vid
I guess in closing i'm sick of people comparing these kinds of videos to regular comedy because he's not trying to do that. He's not trying to make you laugh. He's literally videogame griefing in real life.[/QUOTE]
Reading through this whole thread and everyone had such deep analysis of who and what Sam Hyde is and I feel this is the most accurate.
[QUOTE=Renegade Master;52800747]That skit isn't satire, and it's not pretending to be some smart thing. It isn't even normal comedy/standup. The purpose was to make the audience as uncomfortable as possible until they left. It's more akin to videogame griefing in real life than classical comedy. I would even say that might be his exact inspiration, considering he was raised by imageboards growing up. This isn't the first time they have done this, by the way. Check out An Inconvenient Anime.
These guys had it even worse because Sam brought backup to block the doors, so they all had to sit there while Sam mocked them and rambled on about stupid bullshit like feudal japan using buster swords in real life for half an hour. The reason why he did anti-gay facts in your video was because he knew that would upset the audience a lot. They weren't even the audience, they were the target, the butt of the joke. Sam is the audience. Someone was dumb enough to give him a stage, a mic, and a whole crowd of people that disgusts him and he took full advantage of it. The TedTalk was his most famous example of this, and the closest to actual satire it got, but it was still just him sneaking onto a stage somewhere and wasting everybody's time because it amuses him.
Bonus vid
I guess in closing i'm sick of people comparing these kinds of videos to regular comedy because he's not trying to do that. He's not trying to make you laugh. He's literally videogame griefing in real life.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, it's still pretty awful to be saying anti LGBT garbage in the first place...Spreading dumb crap like that is shitty even if you're joking.
[QUOTE=Renegade Master;52800747]That skit isn't satire, and it's not pretending to be some smart thing. It isn't even normal comedy/standup. The purpose was to make the audience as uncomfortable as possible until they left. It's more akin to videogame griefing in real life than classical comedy. I would even say that might be his exact inspiration, considering he was raised by imageboards growing up. This isn't the first time they have done this, by the way. Check out An Inconvenient Anime.
These guys had it even worse because Sam brought backup to block the doors, so they all had to sit there while Sam mocked them and rambled on about stupid bullshit like feudal japan using buster swords in real life for half an hour. The reason why he did anti-gay facts in your video was because he knew that would upset the audience a lot. They weren't even the audience, they were the target, the butt of the joke. Sam is the audience. Someone was dumb enough to give him a stage, a mic, and a whole crowd of people that disgusts him and he took full advantage of it. The TedTalk was his most famous example of this, and the closest to actual satire it got, but it was still just him sneaking onto a stage somewhere and wasting everybody's time because it amuses him.
I guess in closing i'm sick of people comparing these kinds of videos to regular comedy because he's not trying to do that. He's not trying to make you laugh. He's literally videogame griefing in real life.[/QUOTE]
Well, yes to everything but it is a sort of comedy. Just like video game griefing videos get views and an audience :v:
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