Can someone give me a TL;DR for all this drama? This rabbit hole seems to go down very far and it looks to be a pain to go through all of it so I can fully grasp the situation.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;52485420]It's a real shame that RCR has to go through all this rigamarole and Mauer will get away Scott free with this one.[/QUOTE]
"scott free" is not very accurate considering she's fucking herself over far more than she's screwing with RCRU.
Like she's actively getting denied a portfolio, on top of her own reputation damage. It's hard to claim you've made music for a game when the company removed all your music after you threw a tamper tantrum.
[QUOTE=chemo;52487717]Can someone give me a TL;DR for all this drama? This rabbit hole seems to go down very far and it looks to be a pain to go through all of it so I can fully grasp the situation.[/QUOTE]
Alex Mauer proclaims that the creators of a shoot-em-up did not pay her for her work on the game's soundtrack. They proclaim that they did. Alex begins DMCAing any Youtube videos featuring the game via copyright claims to protest against them. It steadily expands as more people notice, and Alex begins attacking any developers she'd composed for previously as well. Alex Mauer gets submitted to a mental institution by her own family, but let out within a day, whereafter she cuts ties with her family for them not taking her side. She also is trying to take various devs to court on copyright claims, which she may or may not actually have rights to (and most generally agree she doesn't); she fires her lawyer when he thought the case was against them and claims they are harassing her for trying to simply arrange a talk about the problems at hand.
Alex Mauer is also a transgender, however, and while this has resulted in the usual internet bile involving such subject matter, now gaming journalist sites are taking her side with minimal research into the matters and attempting to demonize the various developers and those against her. Just as well, the developers of one of the games she went after, River City Ransom Underground, have pretty much raised their hands in the air after she got them kicked off of Steam during all this drama and are moving to replace every trace of her music and presence in the game simply to get her off their backs.
[QUOTE=chemo;52487717]Can someone give me a TL;DR for all this drama? This rabbit hole seems to go down very far and it looks to be a pain to go through all of it so I can fully grasp the situation.[/QUOTE]
On top of what the post above said, I'll add that she's been sending several death threats along the way and has shown extremely little understanding of the legal aspect of her claims.
She's disconnected from reality and seems to believe that those constant DMCA claims are an opportunity for those youtube channels to "get a real job", by covering her story and dealing with those legal ramifications for her.
She's also fired the only attorney who was willing to take up her case after she accused him of being "paid to lose".
Alright, thanks guys, I wanted to make sure I didn't get anything wrong.
If you want to follow up on the issue from now on you can subscribe to SidAlpha, he's been very efficient at covering the story despite a few hiccups in conviction due to some of his viewerbase taking on a vigilante/witch hunt mindset despite him telling them not to.
Ars Techncia updated their article if no one saw it, didn't see anything about it in the thread
[URL]https://archive.fo/bu3CA[/URL]
Would have been nice if they did some research to begin with, but at least they're not doubling down on the original story.
surprisingly the kotaku article is the best researched out of all the articles that have been going up over the last few days, they don't even have any mention of her being trans.
[url]https://archive.fo/lb1Ro[/url]
That's just hilarious. The fact that Kotaku of all websites has the best article? That's just pathetic both by Ars Technica and Destructoid. Fucking wow.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;52488850]gender is completely irrelevant to the situation anyway, i never get why some people feel the need to point out how ~trans~ somebody is.[/QUOTE]
Of course it's relevant to the story.
Tell me why an unbiased news story should neglect to mention it when:
1 - It's one of the main reasons for the abusive messages she's gotten.
2 - It's one of the main reasons many 'news' websides decide to support her case, even though she's blatantly in the wrong.
This whole situation perfectly encapsulates "the internet and transgenderism", where many will blindly abuse, and many will blindly defend just because of this one factor.
Hadn't it been the case that she's received abuse & support due to her gender, it would've been irrelevant for sure - but as it stands, it's a major part of the story.
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Bit of a stretch, but imagine if news companies neglected to mention that the people killed by the Ku Klux Klan were black, with the explanation that "a persons skin color is irrelevant."
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52488901]Of course it's relevant to the story.
Tell me why an unbiased news story should neglect to mention it when:
1 - It's one of the main reasons for the abusive messages she's gotten.
2 - It's one of the main reasons many 'news' websides decide to support her case, even though she's blatantly in the wrong.
This whole situation perfectly encapsulates "the internet and transgenderism", where many will blindly abuse, and many will blindly defend just because of this one factor.
Hadn't it been the case that she's received abuse & support due to her gender, it would've been irrelevant for sure - but as it stands, it's a major part of the story.
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Bit of a stretch, but imagine if news companies neglected to mention that the people killed by the Ku Klux Klan were black, with the explanation that "a persons skin color is irrelevant."[/QUOTE]
You forgot one...
3 - It's one of the main things [I]she[/I] uses to try and validate her claims.
Like the deadname thing with Leonard French.
The people throwing trans-related insults at her probably would be much less if she, herself, didn't bring it into the equation so hard. (and no, I'm not saying it's her fault for it, I'm saying she brings it up so much as well that more of those people see that's a thing she's into and know that it would help cripple her with the abusive messages)
[QUOTE=Robman8908;52488956]You forgot one...
3 - It's one of the main things [I]she[/I] uses to try and validate her claims.
Like the deadname thing with Leonard French.
The people throwing trans-related insults at her probably would be much less if she, herself, didn't bring it into the equation so hard. (and no, I'm not saying it's her fault for it, I'm saying she brings it up so much as well that more of those people see that's a thing she's into and know that it would help cripple her with the abusive messages)[/QUOTE]
Yes, that too.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;52488850]gender is completely irrelevant to the situation anyway, i never get why some people feel the need to point out how ~trans~ somebody is.[/QUOTE]
It feels like it's relevant to some people because in the slump of attention-seeking psychotic time-bombs roaming the internet, there's occasionally one that pops up who's trans and that obviously catches the eye of people, so they feel like there's a correlation between someone being trans and someone being a drama sperglord.
Alex Mauer herself wants to be the victim at all costs so she'll pull any card she can pull to achieve that.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52488901]
1 - It's one of the main reasons for the abusive messages she's gotten.
[/QUOTE]
She isn't "being abused because she's transgender" though. The way mean people on the internet work they have a reason to be mean to you, then they figure out the best angle of attack to actually bother you with. The trolls went with the trans thing for her because its an easy target.
Yeah pretty sure the main reason for her getting mean messages is her rapid-fire DMCA strikes, all the trans shit is just ammunition for these people.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;52489032]She isn't "being abused because she's transgender" though. The way mean people on the internet work they have a reason to be mean to you, then they figure out the best angle of attack to actually bother you with. The trolls went with the trans thing for her because its an easy target.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. If someone's beating you with a stick you don't question their choice of stick. They'll go for whatever is most convenient.
[QUOTE=wingless;52489035]Indeed. If someone's beating you with a stick you don't question their choice of stick. They'll go for whatever is most convenient.[/QUOTE]
This is a beautiful metaphor and I'll be using this in the future.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;52489100]This is a beautiful metaphor and I'll be using this in the future.[/QUOTE]
I'll be using it on you too, so don't question it.
You dirty [B]STICK[/B].
[QUOTE=wingless;52489035]Indeed. If someone's beating you with a stick you don't question their choice of stick. They'll go for whatever is most convenient.[/QUOTE]
"seriously bro, just pine? I'd accept a nice poplar but pine?? way to shell out the big bucks for this beating"
[QUOTE=Mattk50;52489032][B]She isn't "being abused because she's transgender" though. [/B]The way mean people on the internet work they have a reason to be mean to you, then they figure out the best angle of attack to actually bother you with. [B]The trolls went with the trans thing for her because its an easy target.[/B][/QUOTE]
These contradict eachother.
It's like you agree with me but at the same time you disagree with me. I don't really get it.
I just don't think gender is irrelevant to this story, is what i'm saying.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52491843]These contradict eachother.[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily.
She's being abused because she's being a despicable human being. It's just that because she's trans, they've got extra ammo against her because they know it'll get to her.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52491849]Not necessarily.
She's being abused because she's being a despicable human being. It's just that because she's trans, they've got extra ammo against her because they know it'll get to her.[/QUOTE]
Aka she is being harassed for being trans...?
What does it matter that it's extra ammo, or a secondary objective? Harassment is harassment.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52491855]Aka she is being harassed for being trans...?
What does it matter that it's extra ammo, or a secondary objective? Harassment is harassment.[/QUOTE]
"Being harassed for being trans" implies that's the sole reason she's being harassed.
It's not, don't pretend it is. The only reason this is a trans thing is because she brought it up as a defense card and gave people even more to work with as a result.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52491855]Aka she is being harassed for being trans...?
What does it matter that it's extra ammo, or a secondary objective? Harassment is harassment.[/QUOTE]
The trans thing has nothing to do with this entire issue. Yes, trans people actually deal with actual harassment, but that isn't exactly whats happening here. If she was a white male / black jew / arabic korean her appearance and gender would still be brought into harassment as an entirely separate thing. or hell, maybe it wouldn't be, but she'd still be getting harassed.
People get harassed for far more stupid shit than being trans.
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;52491863][B]"Being harassed for being trans" implies that's the sole reason she's being harassed.
It's not, don't pretend it is. [/B]The only reason this is a trans thing is because she brought it up as a defense card and gave people even more to work with as a result.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck :v:
That's not at all what i mean, i mean it in the literal sense, not like your interpretation where saying that a thing exists means it's the only thing that exists.
Way to twist my words, and to argue against me (or rather, argue semantics) when all in all you probably agree with what i'm [I]actually[/I] saying.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52491871]The trans thing has nothing to do with this entire issue. Yes, trans people actually deal with actual harassment, but stop making it the bigger picture here. If she was a white male / black jew / arabic korean her appearance and gender would still be brought into harassment as an entirely separate thing. or hell, maybe it wouldn't be, but she'd still be getting harassed.
People get harassed for far more stupid shit than being trans.[/QUOTE]
Did you forget the part where she's using the trans thing to label anyone who talks remotely negative about her as transphobic?
It's a part of the story because of the way:
- she's been abusing it
- the internet has been abusing it
- news websites have arrived to biased conclusions because of it
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52491855]Aka she is being harassed for being trans...?
What does it matter that it's extra ammo, or a secondary objective? Harassment is harassment.[/QUOTE]
"Extra ammo" as in "literally not important to people that actually care about the issue itself and only important to already trans-phobic people and bad journalists"
The trans thing is outside of the core of the issue. It's a different problem. Like, yeah, its a problem (this isn't me ""secretly and unknowingly agreeing"" with you), however it's an external issue with the internet, not the main reason she's being harassed.
You have to realize that people get harassed for similar or smaller things who don't even have a racial or gender label.
You also have to realize, that there is a huge thing going on here that has no relation to her being anything. The story behind this isn't one of trans phobia and harassment, its of legal issues and false take downs. Reporting on the trans portion of this will automatically make it a 'trans issue', invalidating the real story by making that debate create more noise than the rest of the topic.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52488901]
Bit of a stretch, but imagine if news companies neglected to mention that the people killed by the Ku Klux Klan were black, with the explanation that "a persons skin color is irrelevant."[/QUOTE]
The KKK systematically killed a specific group of people for basically no reason. They're also two radically different things. Lets not compare this to racially targeted murder please.
What were you thinking when you posted this? Was there some kind of point to this you were trying to make? Because it doesn't seem like anyone was impressed.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52491876]Did you forget the part where she's using the trans thing to label anyone who talks remotely negative about her as transphobic?
It's a part of the story because of the way:
- she's been abusing it
- the internet has been abusing it
- news websites have arrived to biased conclusions because of it[/QUOTE]
That has nothing to do with the legal side of this. I certainly don't give a shit about it. Almost all FPer's here don't care either. Leonard French, RCRU, Imagos, they all don't care about the trans topic, neither do most people actually talking about this.
-Her using it as a means of justification is just another reason that she's in the wrong and just another thing to call her out for. She really has no right to use that as leverage against a legitimate legal drama. Her being trans doesn't make the contract invalid and it doesn't make her right or wrong. It also doesn't make the harassment go away if she wasn't, it'd still happen.
-A ton of people are harassing her however because of the DMCA shit, if they're also using the trans thing its likely because they are using it as an excuse and are already trans-phobic people just looking for someone to harrass, or because they're using it as a means of harassment rather than the cause of it. But if this legal issue never happened and she didn't file false DMCA's, she would not have received it to begin with. Obviously, she could have been harrassed for being trans as a separate thing, but that has no relation to this.
-To news organizations, this is out of them using it as leverage and an "interesting fact for views" point more than an actual argument and they're trying to make this seem as if this is a trans debate, even though the core of the issue is about the legal issue, so that they can get more clicks. so we call them out for spreading information that has no relation to the meat of the matter.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52491872]What the fuck :v:
That's not at all what i mean, i mean it in the literal sense, not like your interpretation where saying that a thing exists means it's the only thing that exists.
Way to twist my words, and to argue against me (or rather, argue semantics) when all in all you probably agree with what i'm [I]actually[/I] saying.[/QUOTE]
It's not that anyone is twisting your words, its that you're wording this very badly and you're not getting the meaning behind what they're saying.
Correlation =/= Causation
You said "It's one of the main reasons for the abusive messages she's gotten.". That straight up is not why she's being harassed. Gender should [B]not[/B] be brought up into this because it's a different matter that is external to this. The moment gender is brought into the issue that's all the topic becomes, ruining all other debate because people start believing that this drama was caused by trans phobia, when it was caused by something else.
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tl;dr, the topic of transexuality doesn't relate to the topic itself. It's something that's floating around but it has nothing to do with whats really happening here. It shouldn't be brought up at all in a news article because yeah, it's not why she's being harassed and yeah, its entirely separate.
Gender was already brought up from the very beginning, it's too late now to say it shouldn't be brought up.
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52492013]Gender was already brought up from the very beginning, it's too late now to say it shouldn't be brought up.[/QUOTE]
:what:
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