• Bioshock Infinite - a smart game for smart people
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Personally I really appreciated it for what it was - it was by no means a perfect game but I still really enjoyed the ride. Still suffered from that problem that a lot of games have where it's a game that's just ok tacked onto a great story.
sure the gameplay itself is nothing to go crazy over but everything else was just fantastic
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;41551682]sure the gameplay itself is nothing to go crazy over but everything else was just fantastic[/QUOTE] That's where half the debate stems from though; can a game with gameplay that isn't amazing be an amazing game anyway? IMO, since I enjoyed BI so much that if GTAV wasn't being released this year it'd be my GOTY, yeah.
Since I'm getting some disagrees I want to clarify my post a bit. I by no means think that Bioshock Infinite was a bad game. I actually think it was a very enjoyable game with a great story, albeit some of which I predicted but still great nonetheless. But the game never really hit a chord with me that it did with so many other people and throughout the experience I was looking for that special something that made people lose their shit over this game. It was that constant searching that made me not appreciate it for what it was. I was constantly looking for whatever made this game a masterpiece in the eyes of critics and other players instead of choosing for myself what I liked about it.
The game was like playing a colourful series of paintings by a good artist.
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;41551682]sure the gameplay itself is nothing to go crazy over but everything else was just fantastic[/QUOTE] So essentially 90% of the GAME was nothing to go crazy over, but everything else was fantastic. Even the story wasn't exactly master class, most of the time is just spent focusing around the rather dull "everybody was a bad guy really!" civil war with most of the Elizabeth plot jammed into the ending.
I don't really get the whole "the ending is a huge twisted concept" thing. It's ripped straight from a boatload of easily accessible movies, TV shows and books. Hyperverse is hardly anything new, neither are "time paradoxes"
Bioshock Infinite was not as good as everyone says so IMO. It was short, gunplay was bland and they didn't really add anything that wasn't in previous bioshock games expect maybe the hook. The story was meh-ish at best with alot of build up but the finale feels so lame, above average story. I got it for 23 euro but don't really feel it was worth that since it is so short and the ending is literally 30 minutes of things being pushed down your throat. Overhyped game, It wasn't bad but it wasn't like 10/10 and oh my god so good game that everyone was screaming.
I dislike the ending of infinite because it ends in a contradiction.
[QUOTE=Sharker;41547893]Wait, people actually thought "Wounded Knee" was a Skyrim joke? :suicide:[/QUOTE] Well, it could sound like a joke on the whole, "Than I took an arrow to the knee" thing, which is a popular skyrim joke. Fun Fact: The phrase "Than I took an arrow to the knee" Doesn't literally mean that, it actually is an ancient Nord phrase that meant to propose/get married... ... The more you know.
[QUOTE=themooselord;41552313]I dislike the ending of infinite because it ends in a contradiction.[/QUOTE] But the contradiction works. [sp]All the Elizabeths drown Booker at the same time during the baptism where Comstock is born. The universe sees this as a contradiction and starts erasing all the timelines related to Comstock. That means that Columbia never exists and Booker never gives up his baby girl to his aged alternate self. The only timelines remaining are those where Comstock never enters Booker's life at all.[/sp]
[QUOTE=zeldar;41552726]But the contradiction works. [sp]All the Elizabeths drown Booker at the same time during the baptism where Comstock is born. The universe sees this as a contradiction and starts erasing all the timelines related to Comstock. That means that Columbia never exists and Booker never gives up his baby girl to his aged alternate self. The only timelines remaining are those where Comstock never enters Booker's life at all.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp] But Elizabeths from Comstocks timeline also drown him, they could never have existed if Comstock never was [/sp]
[QUOTE=themooselord;41552978][sp] But Elizabeths from Comstocks timeline also drown him, they could never have existed if Comstock never was [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]because it's a dumb irrational games plot twist ending[/sp]
[QUOTE=themooselord;41552978][sp] But Elizabeths from Comstocks timeline also drown him, they could never have existed if Comstock never was [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Exactly. The universe starts erasing them from existence once Comstock's birth was stopped. They can only travel to the site of Comstock's birth after the barriers holding back their powers (the tower thing) have been destroyed in their timelines. Then they kill him at the baptism and none of the game's events ever really happen.[/sp]
The issue some people are running into is that they're thinking Bioshock Infinite is using the advanced (the common one in media it seems) theory of hyperverses, when it doesn't. Infinite uses the rather unused and linear concept of the multiverse negating itself in relation to the hyperverse idea. Don't really see that one used very much because it's philosophically and intellectually inferior to the multiverse theory that doesn't. Generally in the more advanced science fiction changing one aspect of the variable doesn't negate new results in time travel/hyperverse theories, it just perpetually branches off, with each branch creating its own roots -- else you would have an open and shut story that doesn't have any real depth. Infinite went the other route because their game (gaming in general really, not counting purely text-based ones) is ill-suited to exploring the immensely complex nature of hyperverses that lack a 'reset' function.
I was a bit disappointed by Bioshock Infinite. In my personal opinion it didn't live up to the hype, and I thought it was an okay game, but nothing more than that. Both the positively acclaimed story and visuals didn't appeal to me and the ending didn't leave me feeling satisfied. Nonetheless I'm glad people liked it and that it did well, because that might help contribute to some more variety in setting and storytelling in the all-to stale gaming industry.
The slowed down audio with the "World's Loudest Orgasm" clip slowly rising in volume made me fucking lose it. Also, stop bitching about the ending. It's a video game. lol, give me boxes because a video game = your life.
[QUOTE=Brismo;41552345]Fun Fact: The phrase "Than I took an arrow to the knee" Doesn't literally mean that, it actually is an ancient Nord phrase that meant to propose/get married... ... The more you know.[/QUOTE] Every time someone says this I fucking brim with rage no it's not a fucking ancient Nordic phrase that's a load of bullshit someone made up it's a reference to the fact that there's [I]no greaves in Skyrim unlike previous Elder Scrolls installments[/I]
[QUOTE=Mr. Jelly;41557714]Every time someone says this I fucking brim with rage no it's not a fucking ancient Nordic phrase that's a load of bullshit someone made up it's a reference to the fact that there's [I]no greaves in Skyrim unlike previous Elder Scrolls installments[/I][/QUOTE] why would Bethesda poke fun at their own incompetence?
[QUOTE=kwk;41557592]The slowed down audio with the "World's Loudest Orgasm" clip slowly rising in volume made me fucking lose it. Also, stop bitching about the ending. It's a video game.[/QUOTE] god, every time i hear that "World's Loudest Orgasm" clip in ANYTHING i fucking lose my shit
[QUOTE=halflambada;41557913]god, every time i hear that "World's Loudest Orgasm" clip in ANYTHING i fucking lose my shit[/QUOTE] That shit haunts me... :ohdear: Seriously it sounds like he's getting his dick cut off.
[QUOTE=MasterFen006;41558304]That shit haunts me... :ohdear: Seriously it sounds like he's getting his dick cut off.[/QUOTE] if i was the woman getting fucked by that guy, i'd be scared. very scared
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;41550479]Yeah you subhuman piece of trash, I understood the ending in 19 different languages in under 3.14 seconds and you should have too![/QUOTE] Because that's exactly what I was saying, right?
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;41552998][sp]because it's a dumb irrational games plot twist ending[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]it was pretty much "oh snap QUANTUM MECHANICS r u shocked enuff i hope u r" so yeah[/sp]
[QUOTE=Cone;41558780][sp]it was pretty much "oh snap QUANTUM MECHANICS r u shocked enuff i hope u r" so yeah[/sp][/QUOTE] It's not like it was hinted at and outright stated throughout the game or anything.
[QUOTE=PredGD;41558448]if i was the woman getting fucked by that guy, i'd be scared. very scared[/QUOTE] The actual video of it shows her just laughing it off.
[QUOTE=kwk;41558965]The actual video of it shows her just laughing it off.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I watched it a while back. I still don't understand all the yelling though.
[QUOTE=kwk;41558965]The actual video of it shows her just laughing it off.[/QUOTE] she says "i got my fanny filled" afterwards [video=youtube;_ZQfUhbs8C4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZQfUhbs8C4[/video] the video is REALLY quiet but you can hear her say it :v:
One of my biggest gripes about Infinite was that they established a beautiful and creative setting in the game, but about half of the way in it's completely forgotten about and it's just focusing on Elizabeth instead. I was hoping for more parts like the beginning and the beach, but those were condensed in the first 25% of the game.
I didn't follow any of the hype and I thought the game was fantastic. Bioshock doesn't make you think by making you solve puzzles, it gives you an interesting setting with just as interesting characters that make an extremely great story. That's just my two cents though. The video was pretty funny though
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