• Ross Rants: Robot Jobs
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People will just end up taking riskier jobs that expensive robots couldn't operate in. Do you think a million dollar robot is going to be mining in caves when it could be damaged insanely easy and wouldn't be able to work efficiently? Humans are tough, and I think for the relative future robots will excel at production line style jobs while humans will be better suited for more hardy outdoorsy type work. I'll worry when Robots can be efficient lumberjacks.
[media]https://youtu.be/AYshVbcEmUc[/media] [b]MEANWHILE[/b], in "Videos And Flash Movies and That Kind Of Crap"...
The concept of universal credit just for existing sounds dangerous because if there really is a lack of jobs due to entry level being taken by robots, you're going to be stuck in this pithole of unable to earn above this ammount. Like the poverty gap somewat. And say you where just living off the governments own pocket in this situation, you would have to seriously budget that money just to exist. Not to live, but to exist. And then pretty much you fall into the Rich get Richer arguement and there it just downright blatant.
Good thing I know Ross from all the other stuff he made because he's got that flat earther look going on [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Destroyox;49989204]People will just end up taking riskier jobs that expensive robots couldn't operate in. Do you think a million dollar robot is going to be mining in caves when it could be damaged insanely easy and wouldn't be able to work efficiently? Humans are tough, and I think for the relative future robots will excel at production line style jobs while humans will be better suited for more hardy outdoorsy type work. I'll worry when Robots can be efficient lumberjacks.[/QUOTE] But production lines are where we are [I]right now.[/I] We're on the verge of widespread adoption, because robots are getting [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgnWqoP4MM"]very good[/URL] at [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjkOiBXI14o"]those jobs[/URL] in controlled environments. But taking humans out of riskier positions is kind of an end goal for robots, since the less humans die, the better, right? That's why one of the biggest fields in robotics is bots that can traverse rough terrain (like Boston Dynamics') and bots hardy enough to work in adverse conditions, like the ones being currently developed and used for search-and-rescue operations.
[QUOTE=Slim Charles;49987227]Why would you even want to make artificial sentience though? That just seems dangerous imho[/QUOTE] This is just my point of view on this, feel free to refute. Robots are only good at performing very specialized tasks. They can only operate within the parameters that we program them with. If a robot were able to "learn" and "think" it would only be within the limits that we programmed into it, so therefore any signs of intelligence would just be the machine doing what we told it to do. So all these movies like Terminator and such, they'd only be possible if we programmed the machines with the capacity to rebel against us. And that'd just be stupid of us.
I think before we get to soylent green levels of dystopia, there's gonna be government sponsored, perhaps even mandated, birth control. It's gonna be hard implementing something like that without it seeming racist though.
[QUOTE=Swilly;49989035]The luddites were right though and its only recently we've seen an increase in need for specialized and hand crafted objects like what the luddities made. Everyone says they're wrong but every line and point they made during their battle against the Industrial Revolution came true. The problem is that Industrialization won and so they were painted as halters of progress because that's the only way we can justify the shit conditions, pay and abuse that workers went through. [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] Humans in general love to work, create and tinker. Its why we've come this far, this idea that someohow humans are lazy is bogus and is only going to further piss people off who already would love to create and tinker but can't because of money.[/QUOTE] Of course the luddites were correct - but correct isn't the same as being in-the-right. I'm not saying certain jobs and professions aren't going to go down the shitter. I'm saying that it's inevitable, and that people can adapt. People learn to make new stuff, to do new things a world that is brand new every day. We don't have fletchers or bowyers or scribes any more. We have drivers and stackers and servers. And tomorrow we won't have those, but we'll have new physical jobs for people. And if we don't have enough of those, then we'll, hopefully, have a bigger drive for jobs in STEM fields. The tide of technology has never been about scorched earth.
i had a scary thought today about self driving cars. whats to stop someone from putting a bomb in the trunk and telling it to pull up to the airport? i mean its the carbomb 2.0, now with self delivery, add in that these cars send out notifications, you put a cheap cellphone into the bomb and the car sets itself off
[QUOTE=Slim Charles;49987227]Why would you even want to make artificial sentience though? That just seems dangerous imho[/QUOTE] Robots and ai dont need to be senteint to replace the majority of human jobs
[QUOTE=Sableye;49994903]i had a scary thought today about self driving cars. whats to stop someone from putting a bomb in the trunk and telling it to pull up to the airport? i mean its the carbomb 2.0, now with self delivery, add in that these cars send out notifications, you put a cheap cellphone into the bomb and the car sets itself off[/QUOTE] I think just posting that has put you on a few watch lists. Hell I'm probably on one now because I responded to it.
[QUOTE=Swilly;49989035] Humans in general love to work, create and tinker. Its why we've come this far, this idea that someohow humans are lazy is bogus and is only going to further piss people off who already would love to create and tinker but can't because of money.[/QUOTE] So much this. Free people up and they will do their best to do or make things they think is awesome, often things that best utilize their own skills. People are motivated to do shit especially if brought up in a soceity that values that stuff rather than an overwhelming money=success tradition.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49994903]i had a scary thought today about self driving cars. whats to stop someone from putting a bomb in the trunk and telling it to pull up to the airport? i mean its the carbomb 2.0, now with self delivery, add in that these cars send out notifications, you put a cheap cellphone into the bomb and the car sets itself off[/QUOTE] probably the same thing stopping them from putting a bomb in the trunk, getting out, and detonating it right now
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;49986963]Ideally, you would transition to a world that Ross mentioned, a world where you get taken care of, since the cost of living becomes cheap through automatisation. A harsh reality might be that corporations see a chance of making more money and fucking over everyone in the process.[/QUOTE] Knowing how corporations have acted since almost forever, it's definitely going to be the latter.
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