American Otaku Living in Japan Ridiculed by Japanese TV Presenters - Anime confirmed terrible for yo
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if a bunch of weird and autistic pedos who obsess over my countries cartoons started moving into my town and tried to 'fit in' i'd probably make fun of them too.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;42084883]good to know that japan's socioeconomic situation has been nailed on the head by internet-famous poster 'itsjustspacy'[/QUOTE]
More or less abridged.
[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;42084992]In Japan, an otaku is essentially the same as what we would call a weeaboo except that weeaboo would imply the person is not Japanese, and an otaku probably is, except when weeaboos call themselves otakus, which just reinforces the whole thing.
I like anime as much as the next guy, shit's great. It's acceptable to like Anime, pretty much no matter where you are. Except maybe at your grandparents house. Most people won't look down on you for it. Hell, most people won't even know unless they share similar interests. What people will look down on you for is being fucking [I]obsessed[/I] with the shit. And that's where weaboos and otakus come in.
If you're a normal functioning person who happens to watch anime, fantastic. But if you wear anime themed clothing, (excluding possibly graphic tees if they're tasteful) try to talk Japanese, openly claim to have a "waifu", obsess over characters, have 36 figmas set up around your computer, a body pillow of any kind, a wall that you don't even know the color of due to it being covered by way too many posters, shoehorn anime into conversations, etc. you are a weeaboo/otaku and people probably won't like you.
I openly talk about anime with friends because we share an interest, but I'm not going to meet some random person at the store and then start talking about the newest episode of [insert anime here] unless I know they share similar interests.
That's pretty much the same with everything though. Nobody really cares what a person likes or enjoys, because that's their business, but when a person is outwardly obsessed with something it's different, often because the openness of said obsession forces it to be other people's business.[/QUOTE]
you fail to realize otaku does not apply to just anime in japan, you can be a train otaku, or gun otaku, or car otaku.
[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;42084992]In Japan, an otaku is essentially the same as what we would call a weeaboo except that weeaboo would imply the person is not Japanese, and an otaku probably is, except when weeaboos call themselves otakus, which just reinforces the whole thing.
I like anime as much as the next guy, shit's great. It's acceptable to like Anime, pretty much no matter where you are. Except maybe at your grandparents house. Most people won't look down on you for it. Hell, most people won't even know unless they share similar interests. What people will look down on you for is being fucking [I]obsessed[/I] with the shit. And that's where weaboos and otakus come in.
If you're a normal functioning person who happens to watch anime, fantastic. But if you wear anime themed clothing, (excluding possibly graphic tees if they're tasteful) try to talk Japanese, openly claim to have a "waifu", obsess over characters, have 36 figmas set up around your computer, a body pillow of any kind, a wall that you don't even know the color of due to it being covered by way too many posters, shoehorn anime into conversations, etc. you are a weeaboo/otaku and people probably won't like you.
I openly talk about anime with friends because we share an interest, but I'm not going to meet some random person at the store and then start talking about the newest episode of [insert anime here] unless I know they share similar interests.
That's pretty much the same with everything though. Nobody really cares what a person likes or enjoys, because that's their business, but when a person is outwardly obsessed with something it's different, often because the openness of said obsession forces it to be other people's business.[/QUOTE]
tbh you can have figmas, a body pillow and a wall covered in way too many posters and wear anime themed clothing and still be socially acceptable
my friend does and he's basically universally loved by everyone i know because he's pretty much a great guy despite those things, he's confident enough to say he likes anime, and wear anime yet socially aware enough to make people laugh and be comfortable around him, and tbh he gets all the ladies(though he's not interested in most of them) despite being an average looking guy
it's mostly the shoehorning, obsession with characters and trying to talk japanese that makes a weeaboo a weeaboo and intolerable and i know these people too but i can never stand to stick around because usually there's shouting about anime memes or something and people trying to talk cute but ending up in screeching witch voices
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;42093720]tbh you can have figmas, a body pillow and a wall covered in way too many posters and wear anime themed clothing and still be socially acceptable
my friend does and he's basically universally loved by everyone i know because he's pretty much a great guy despite those things, he's confident enough to say he likes anime, and wear anime yet socially aware enough to make people laugh and be comfortable around him, and tbh he gets all the ladies(though he's not interested in most of them) despite being an average looking guy
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Him being a pretty average guy is the only reason he got away with it, especially with the demographic anime seems to reel in the west. To be honest most people (at least in my experience) who watch anime and are OPEN about it tend to be introverts or in some way have lacking social skills. When they wear the clothing it just becomes their desperate cry to try and say, "Look at me, I'm unique because I watch Chinese cartoons!"
There is no going around that fact that this guy is living in a fucking fantasy world, but in all honesty and pitty I still don't think he should be ridiculed for it. He's not harming anyone, let him enjoy his animu. Also the two TV hosts are kind of dicks. I'm kind of curious how popular their show is/was in Japan.
[QUOTE=GeneralMoosen;42094245]Him being a pretty average guy is the only reason he got away with it, especially with the demographic anime seems to reel in the west. To be honest most people (at least in my experience) who watch anime and are OPEN about it tend to be introverts or in some way have lacking social skills. When they wear the clothing it just becomes their desperate cry to try and say, "Look at me, I'm unique because I watch Chinese cartoons!"[/QUOTE]
Liking anime and having social skills are mutually exclusive.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;42095148]Liking anime and having social skills are mutually exclusive.[/QUOTE]
Sure, if I saw Dragon Ball Z or Pokémon when I was young I should be autistic.
[QUOTE=oskramorir;42097342]Sure, if I saw Dragon Ball Z or Pokémon when I was young I should be autistic.[/QUOTE]
I don't know anyone around my age who didn't watch at least one anime when they were kids, from dbz to sailor moon to doraemon, there's always at least one they watched and liked.
Being obsessed with anything is bad, but from reading some comments here it seems like liking any anime at all is bad. Liking anime at an adult age is like liking western cartoons or pixar movies at an adult age, there's some good stuff out there like Spirited Away and some bad stuff like anything, the notion that enjoying anime makes you an autistic idiot with the social skills of a potato is like saying watching Family Guy or the The Simpsons makes you stupid because some people who watch it are stupid.
[QUOTE=the king bee;42061725][img]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=101304&dateline=1374818594[/img][/QUOTE]
I'm getting some serious dejavu.
i'd make fun of him here
[QUOTE=bunguer;42099913]I don't know anyone around my age who didn't watch at least one anime when they were kids, from dbz to sailor moon to doraemon, there's always at least one they watched and liked.
Being obsessed with anything is bad, but from reading some comments here it seems like liking any anime at all is bad. Liking anime at an adult age is like liking western cartoons or pixar movies at an adult age, there's some good stuff out there like Spirited Away and some bad stuff like anything, the notion that enjoying anime makes you an autistic idiot with the social skills of a potato is like saying watching Family Guy or the The Simpsons makes you stupid because some people who watch it are stupid.[/QUOTE] like some Anime Movies are meant for adults
I can't believe no one mentioned how he put an o sound on the end of the name when responding to the hosts.
"What's your name?"
"Davido"
I lost it.
that's the way it would be translated
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42101822]that's the way it would be translated[/QUOTE]
I really doubt that the "o" at the end of the name makes any difference.
I'm pretty sure they only do that so names can be pronounced using Japanese characters to those unfamiliar with English when read, which is pointless in normal speech if the person is already an English native speaker.
that is how katakana works. it is how they would write and pronounce his name
[QUOTE=Cuon Alpinus;42101880]I really doubt that the "o" at the end of the name makes any difference.
I'm pretty sure they only do that so names can be pronounced using Japanese characters to those unfamiliar with English when read, which is pointless in normal speech if the person is already an English native speaker.[/QUOTE]
That's how you pronounce western names while speaking japanese, switching to english pronunciation would sound awkward. Just like I pronounce "Eric" in a different way in swedish than I'd pronounce it in english, I'd say "Erikku" if I was speaking japanese
Would Steveo Be called SteveoOOOOOOOOOO!
if he was a real hardcore nihongo he would have said "deibido" but apparently his power level isn't there yet
I lived in Okinawa before, and japan is not over the top with anime, its just like america. but more japanese-ish
What is a otaku? Can anyone explain?
[QUOTE=alx12345;42105656]What is a otaku? Can anyone explain?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much the Japanese equivalent for nerd. It's recently gotten a connotation of being exclusive to being obsessed with anime and manga, but it can be applied to any hobbies like a train otaku.
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42101822]that's the way it would be translated[/QUOTE]
You aren't supposed to translate names, whoever taught you that is weird.
You should always pronounce a name how it is pronounced in it's local language. Like Jesus being "Hey-Zeus" in Spanish. You don't call the Mexican guy down the street "Gee-Zuss"
[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;42105816]You aren't supposed to translate names, whoever taught you that is weird.
You should always pronounce a name how it is pronounced in it's local language. Like Jesus being "Hey-Zeus" in Spanish. You don't call the Mexican guy down the street "Gee-Zuss"[/QUOTE]
that's not how japanese works
[QUOTE=tr00per7;42102414]Would Steveo Be called SteveoOOOOOOOOOO![/QUOTE]
it would probably be translated as sutibuo, or スティーブオ
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[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;42105816]You aren't supposed to translate names, whoever taught you that is weird.
You should always pronounce a name how it is pronounced in it's local language. Like Jesus being "Hey-Zeus" in Spanish. You don't call the Mexican guy down the street "Gee-Zuss"[/QUOTE]
you are supposed to translate names between languages that don't use the same writing systems.
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42105886]that's not how japanese works[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=butre;42105926]you are supposed to translate names between languages that don't use the same writing systems.[/QUOTE]
That only applies in the written language, and the only reason it is that way is due to lack of characters.
You don't change the phonetics of a name due to language being spoken, you pronounce a name how the person who has said name pronounces it. An English man with the name Jack is named Jack in every language, we don't call him "Yack" if we're speaking German.
[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;42106119]That only applies in the written language, and the only reason it is that way is due to lack of characters.
You don't change the phonetics of a name due to language being spoken, you pronounce a name how the person who has said name pronounces it. An English man with the name Jack is named Jack in every language, we don't call him "Yack" if we're speaking German.[/QUOTE]
"watashi wa chris" breaks the flow of the language, "watashi wa kurisu" doesn't. it's as simple as that.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;42074082]Batman TAS already didn't understand science very well but Beyond took that up to about a thousand. They explained Shriek's silencers as working by taking the sound vibrations it receives and outputting the opposite vibration. How the fuck is that supposed to work if the sound vibrations hit your ear first?[/QUOTE]
Lets all look at this and then realize comic book logic doesn't work when science can't figure out bullshit space aliens/magic
[QUOTE=itsjustspacy;42084838]The country is fucking weird though. Even their population is in decline because they don't have the need to make a damn baby. Alot of them kill themselves and they are assholes to anyone not Japanese.[/QUOTE]
All these posts about Japan being xenophobic. Obviously all these people have been to Japan :S
[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;42106119]You don't change the phonetics of a name due to language being spoken, you pronounce a name how the person who has said name pronounces it. An English man with the name Jack is named Jack in every language, we don't call him "Yack" if we're speaking German.[/QUOTE]
What? Yes we do. In swedish my friend John's name is pronounced "Yonn" but when speaking english it's pronounced just like you'd expect. Same thing with Eric but that pronunciation is hard to type out in english. The name "Tobias" would be pronounced "Toe-bye-us" when speaking english but "To-bee-ass" when speaking swedish.
[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;42106119]That only applies in the written language, and the only reason it is that way is due to lack of characters.
You don't change the phonetics of a name due to language being spoken, you pronounce a name how the person who has said name pronounces it. An English man with the name Jack is named Jack in every language, we don't call him "Yack" if we're speaking German.[/QUOTE]
Japanese is based on "morae", basically syllables. This means that there isn't a 1:1 phonetic translation for every foreign word, and even if there was, like butre said, it breaks the flow and sounds weird.
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