Dear Publishers: Stop censoring your games, it's not helping (self Posted) - General

[QUOTE=Paige;49702675]oh no no, i fully understand their points of view. But again. to quote NiandraLades If anyone should be able to grow thicker skin about this oh so scary "PC culture" that's apparently SO rampant and SO bad that they're now refusing to play in colleges, it should be Comedians who are prone to "offensive" jokes. [editline]oops[/editline] wow just realized i've been spelling that mods name wrong this whole time, oops![/QUOTE] What point are you actually trying to make here? You're quoting NirandraLades, who made a completely different argument to yours about a completely different issue. You started by making a point about "artistic integrity" and then went on a rant about how everyone on Facepunch thinks there's some massive "SJW" conspiracy before stating that the most well-known comedians in the world know jack-shit about comedy and accuse anyone attempting to converse with you of "picking a fight". You seem to be the one who's attempting to "pick a fight" by arbitrarily clumping everyone who disagrees with you into a single metaphorical wad of tissue paper and cherry-picking posts in order to attack the strawman you've constructed.

[QUOTE=Paige;49702645]nope not even close dude. but thank you for picking apart each of my post with a stupidly condescending attitude to try and pick a fight. [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1504794&p=49680711&viewfull=1#post49680711"]nindraladies already summed up exactly what my response would be.[/URL] not to mention the 3rd post in that thread is this [IMG]http://puu.sh/n16CV/068d8b823d.png[/IMG] like are you kidding me? the "pussification" of the world? are we really still using pussy as an insult and to mean something weak lol [editline].[/editline] this isn't even the first time i've seen this sentiment on FP alone[/QUOTE] While steelman's views are extreme, I can definitely see where niandra was coming from but the people that are called "PC" may or may not be relevant enough to damage their reputation. Now, whether or not they can, well, that's not the important part. The important part is that they're presented in a way that people at least [I]think[/I] they are. Whoever is to blame for this, though, is up for debate. It's like the soccer moms of the 90s. In the long run, they'll only be remembered for their stupidity.

[QUOTE=Zyler;49702788]What point are you actually trying to make here? You're quoting NirandraLades, who made a completely different argument to yours about a completely different issue. You started by making a point about "artistic integrity" and then went on a rant about how everyone on Facepunch thinks there's some massive "SJW" conspiracy before stating that the most well-known comedians in the world know jack-shit about comedy and accuse anyone attempting to converse with you of "picking a fight". You seem to be the one who's attempting to "pick a fight" by arbitrarily clumping everyone who disagrees with you into a single metaphorical wad of tissue paper and cherry-picking posts in order to attack the strawman you've constructed.[/QUOTE] nah man. i only switched to talking about comedians since you brought it up. [QUOTE=Blazedol;49702809]While steelman's views are extreme, I can definitely see where niandra was coming from but the people that are called "PC" may or may not be relevant enough to damage their reputation. Now, whether or not they can, well, that's not the important part. The important part is that they're presented in a way that people at least [I]think[/I] they are. Whoever is to blame for this, though, is up for debate. It's like the soccer moms of the 90s. In the long run, they'll only be remembered for their stupidity.[/QUOTE] pretty much. and I hope that things like mika's buttslap and doa's not being sold to the west will just be remembered for what they are, that being stupid marketting stunts, as opposed to what people seem to like to use them for now which is "100% clear cut examples" of how SJW's are taking away our vidya gaems

[QUOTE=Paige;49702762]lets stop right here for a second. I don't think any of them are insane, where would you even get that? nor do i think they don't understand their own job field. They're all great Comedians that i've loved for awhile. But for any of them to imply there's some sort of rampant PC culture that prevents them from playing at colleges because its SO bad is absolutely ludicrous. Again I never claimed FP was some kind of hivemind? I'm using Steelman's post as an example. That kind of rhetoric is the same type of thought process those comedians go through when they decide this "PC culture" is too much for them to preform under. It's not. Christ on a cracker, man. [editline]8th February 2016[/editline] And to bring it all back home, This oh so rampant "PC Culture" that caused these devs to engage in self censorhip is complete bullshit. They know exactly what they're doing. This is nothing but a powerplay to drum up free and easy publicity. Now they have diehard SJW haters who are going to day 1 buy DOA from Playasia as some form of protest against these boogiemen SJW's. It's really sad anyone's falling for it.[/QUOTE] You're strawmaning the arguments of anyone who disagrees with you. There is no rhetoric here except the rhetoric being made by the actual people who are actually employing it. Multiple ways of reaching the same conclusion isn't 'rhetoric'. Steelman's post isn't representative of anyone else's opinion but Steelman's. Let's think of it this way, do you think that none of these people have personal experience to back up their beliefs? Did they just arbitrarily decide one day that "PC culture" is now a thing that they care about for no reason at all? [QUOTE]And to bring it all back home, This oh so rampant "PC Culture" that caused these devs to engage in self censorhip is complete bullshit. They know exactly what they're doing. This is nothing but a powerplay to drum up free and easy publicity. Now they have diehard SJW haters who are going to day 1 buy DOA from Playasia as some form of protest against these boogiemen SJW's. It's really sad anyone's falling for it. [/QUOTE] This is what I don't understand, do you think that anyone who ever complains about "PC culture" is doing so to drum up publicity? Do you think that the developers of triple-A games like "Street Fighter" are going to get increased sales because of something like this? I think your vastly overestimating the number of "Anti-PC" people in the world if you think that a Japanese Developer would pull a massive conspiracy like this in order to increase sales like your suggesting.

[QUOTE=Paige;49702675]oh no no, i fully understand their points of view. But again. to quote NiandraLades If anyone should be able to grow thicker skin about this oh so scary "PC culture" that's apparently SO rampant and SO bad that they're now refusing to play in colleges, it should be Comedians who are prone to "offensive" jokes. [editline]oops[/editline] wow just realized i've been spelling that mods name wrong this whole time, oops![/QUOTE] the thing is, they aren't comedians prone to "offensive" jokes. i don't think of shock humor when i think of seinfeld. from their perspective, the shit they've always told has suddenly become offensive territory, and for comedians who traditionally haven't relied on being offensive in humor i can see it being pretty disheartening. if it were, like, louis ck or daniel tosh complaining about it i'd say they shouldn't really complain about it, but the those three guys aren't ones who go out of their way to rock the boat

[QUOTE=Zyler;49702849]Did they just arbitrarily decide one day that "PC culture" is now a thing that they care about for no reason at all?[/QUOTE] this actually happens /all/ the time. I know plenty of people who complain about how much the world is becoming too PC when they have literally no firsthand experience or reason to complain about that. [QUOTE=Zyler;49702849]This is what I don't understand, do you think that anyone who ever complains about "PC culture" is doing so to drum up publicity? Do you think that the developers of triple-A games like "Street Fighter" are going to get increased sales because of something like this?[/QUOTE] well seeing as the OP made a video ENTIRELY revolving around a buttslap animation, and there were [URL="http://kotaku.com/why-a-street-fighter-butt-slap-was-removed-1746992143"]countless[/URL] [URL="https://www.vg247.com/2015/11/10/street-fighter-5-beta-updated-to-remove-r-mikas-butt-slap-cammys-crotch-zoom/"]gaming site[/URL] [URL="http://www.destructoid.com/r-mika-butt-slap-close-up-removed-from-street-fighter-v-319706.phtml"]articles[/URL] about a small animation change it sure is doing its job of grabbing attention for the game right before it's big release. [editline]8th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49702863]the thing is, they aren't comedians prone to "offensive" jokes. i don't think of shock humor when i think of seinfeld. from their perspective, the shit they've always told has suddenly become offensive territory, and for comedians who traditionally haven't relied on being offensive in humor i can see it being pretty disheartening. if it were, like, louis ck or daniel tosh complaining about it i'd say they shouldn't really complain about it, but the those three guys aren't ones who go out of their way to rock the boat[/QUOTE] i'd argue chris rock can be pretty abrasive and "offensive" but other than that i can agree with your points. but regardless of it all comedians of all people should be able to develop some relatively thick skin to criticism.* *i'm slightly biased because I love all of those comedians.

[QUOTE=Paige;49702842]nah man. i only switched to talking about comedians since you brought it up. [/QUOTE] No, you were talking about "Artistic Integrity" and making a strawman about how anyone who disagrees with you thinks that "SJWs are taking over the world". After that you stated that famous comedians don't know enough about their own industry to come to a conclusion about "PC culture" or whatever without it being "in their heads". Which is exactly what I pointed out in the post you quoted. It seems like you aren't actually reading my posts. [QUOTE]pretty much. and I hope that things like mika's buttslap and doa's not being sold to the west will just be remembered for what they are, that being stupid marketting stunts, as opposed to what people seem to like to use them for now which is "100% clear cut examples" of how SJW's are taking away our vidya gaems[/QUOTE] Again, you haven't read any of my posts where I responded to this issues and you keep strawmanning everyone who disagrees with you. Find anywhere in my posts where I stated that "SJW's are taking away our vidya gaems". [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Paige;49702882] well seeing as the OP made a video ENTIRELY revolving around a buttslap animation, and there were [URL="http://kotaku.com/why-a-street-fighter-butt-slap-was-removed-1746992143"]countless[/URL] [URL="https://www.vg247.com/2015/11/10/street-fighter-5-beta-updated-to-remove-r-mikas-butt-slap-cammys-crotch-zoom/"]gaming site[/URL] [URL="http://www.destructoid.com/r-mika-butt-slap-close-up-removed-from-street-fighter-v-319706.phtml"]articles[/URL] about a small animation change it sure is doing its job of grabbing attention for the game right before it's big release.[/QUOTE] Yea a YouTuber video made by a facepuncher and a post on video game websites is really going to make people who didn't know what Street Fighter is suddenly know now. Millions of people who were never going to buy Street Fighter, the most well-known and most profitable fighting game on the planet, are now going to buy it because of a massive conspiracy concocted by a Japanese Development team, most of whom doesn't speak english and has no understanding of western (internet) culture. Said conspiracy also involves infiltrating the ESRB and the American Localization Company who translated the game, all in order to serendipitously change the angle of a single cutscene.

[QUOTE=Zyler;49702889]No, you were talking about "Artistic Integrity" and making a strawman about how anyone who disagrees with you thinks that "SJWs are taking over the world". After that you stated that famous comedians don't know enough about their own industry to come to a conclusion about "PC culture" or whatever without it being "in their heads". Which is exactly what I pointed out in the post you quoted. It seems like you aren't actually reading my posts.[/quote] you are really trying hard to start an argument here. i'm just not gonna bother responding after this point but no, i don't think anyone who disagrees with me is someone afraid of sjws, nor do i think comedians don't know enough about their own industry lol. the only thing i've been repeating is that this is nothing more than a marketing stunt and shouldn't be taken as some hailmary sign of "censorship rampant" which is the [I]constant[/I] sentiment i see. [QUOTE=Zyler;49702889] Yea a YouTuber video made by a facepuncher and a post on video game websites is really going to make people who didn't know what Street Fighter is suddenly know now. Millions of people who were never going to buy Street Fighter, the most well-known and most profitable fighting game on the planet, are now going to buy it because of a massive conspiracy concocted by a Japanese Development team, most of whom doesn't speak english and has no understanding of western (internet) culture. Said conspiracy also involves infiltrating the ESRB and the American Localization Company who translated the game, all in order to serendipitously change the angle of a single cutscene.[/QUOTE] thank you for misrepresenting everything i said lol. there isn't some dumbass conspiracy. it's not even hard to see this is a really simple marketing stunt lmao. not to mention this is probably the biggest and most hyped up street fighter release to date so of course they're going to do everything they can to garner up more and more attention on themselves regardless of wether or not they're the most well known and profitable fighting game.

[QUOTE=Paige;49702614]no of course not, artstic integrity is incredibly important. changing the angle of a camera on a buttslap, however, is not ruining the artstic integrity of mika or street fighter 5.[/QUOTE] Yes it is. How is it not? [editline]8th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49702598]It's kinda creepy tbqh[/QUOTE] The greeks were into far creepier stuff but I never see anyone saying their art should have been censored.

[QUOTE=Paige;49702882]this actually happens /all/ the time. I know plenty of people who complain about how much the world is becoming too PC when they have literally no firsthand experience or reason to complain about that.[/QUOTE] Seeing as I'm not a mind reader, I can't verify those examples you've thought of. But your anecdotal evidence is just as reliable as any other person's anecdotal evidence, that doesn't really tell me anything at all. I can't possibly know if the people you've thought of had "firsthand experience" or not, not anymore than I can automatically believe somebody who says that they do have firsthand experience of "PC Culture".

[QUOTE=Paige;49702607]i was more talking about doa lmao. and all those comedians are acting like children if they really think a "PC culture" exist anywhere but in their heads.[/QUOTE] Do you know what a safe space is? That is literally PC culture in physical form. [editline]8th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Paige;49702477]It's hilarious to me that anyone still thinks any of this has to do with self-censorship. Capcom and the DOA Devs are just playing up the easy to provoke "WOW SJWS ARE RUINING MY GAMES" crowd by blaming things on the scary sjw boogiemen.[/QUOTE] Nice conspiracy theory there champ. What would they have to gain by limiting their own sells? It's amazing the mental gymnastics SJWs will use to justify censorship even when TECHMO THEMSELVES say it's because of it.

[QUOTE=Metist;49702977] Nice conspiracy theory there champ. What would they have to gain by limiting their own sells? It's amazing the mental gymnastics SJWs will use to justify censorship even when TECHMO THEMSELVES say it's because of it.[/QUOTE] ahaha that's great, you think i'm some kidn of "SJW" that's really funny. thank you for proving my ENTIRE POINT.

[QUOTE=Paige;49702952] thank you for misrepresenting everything i said lol. there isn't some dumbass conspiracy. it's not even hard to see this is a really simple marketing stunt lmao. not to mention this is probably the biggest and most hyped up street fighter release to date so of course they're going to do everything they can to garner up more and more attention on themselves regardless of wether or not they're the most well known and profitable fighting game.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure how it's a simple marketing stunt when, from what I can figure out, it would require a massive international effort to accomplish something like this. Secondly, you keep saying over and over again that I'm trying to start an argument. I keep telling you over and over again that I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm just trying to respond to what you're saying and you keep insulting me and mis-reading what I'm typing. [QUOTE]you are really trying hard to start an argument here. i'm just not gonna bother responding after this point but no, i don't think anyone who disagrees with me is someone afraid of sjws, nor do i think comedians don't know enough about their own industry lol. the only thing i've been repeating is that this is nothing more than a marketing stunt and shouldn't be taken as some hailmary sign of "censorship rampant" which is the constant sentiment i see. [/QUOTE] "People think this change in a video-game is due to self-censorship, when it reality it's a marketing ploy to manipulate the hordes of people who think 'SJW are ruining games or something', nobody would've known about this game. Also, anyone who thinks this change in a video-game affects artistic integrity and [insert strawman of 'ruining all art in the universe as we know it here] is a dummy." "I don't think the Japanese Developers of Street Fighter, the biggest fighting game in the world, would have the ability, let alone the desire, to pull the kind of international, cross-continental effort this would require. This is like John Cleese, Jerry Seinfield or Chris Rock needing to manufacture controversy because nobody would go to their performances if they didn't." "People who think "SJWs are Taking over mah Vidja Gaymes!' are the fucking worst, here's a random example of somebody posting something stupid from the third page." "You didn't answer the argument" "Wot you trying to pick a fight or something?" [QUOTE]I don't think anyone who disagrees with me is afraid of sjws.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Paige;49702645] not to mention the 3rd post in that thread is this [IMG]http://puu.sh/n16CV/068d8b823d.png[/IMG] like are you kidding me? the "pussification" of the world? are we really still using pussy as an insult and to mean something weak lol [editline].[/editline] this isn't even the first time i've seen this sentiment on FP alone[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Paige;49702477]to imply that scary sjw's are taking away your games or that changing the camera angle on mika's buttslap is "ruining the artistic integrity of the character" or is the "downfall of modern art as we know it" is fucking ludicrous and we all know that.[/QUOTE] You don't think that anyone who disagrees with you is afraid of sjws, but your entire argument is based on the idea that the people who disagree with you are afraid that sjws are taking over video games. Okay.

[QUOTE=Zyler;49703059] Secondly, you keep saying over and over again that I'm trying to start an argument. I keep telling you over and over again that I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm just trying to respond to what you're saying and [B]you keep insulting me[/B] and mis-reading what I'm typing. [/QUOTE] The only reason i say you're trying to start an argument is because you keep misrepsenting what i'm saying and completely changing my words. but hey man if i've insulted you i'm sorry. I don't try to do purposefully that nor would I want to come across that way. Regardless of any other disagreements I'm not trying to be a dick here. I sincerely apologize if i've come across that way.

[QUOTE=Paige;49703083]The only reason i say you're trying to start an argument is because you keep misrepsenting what i'm saying and completely changing my words. but hey man if i've insulted you i'm sorry. I don't try to do purposefully that nor would I want to come across that way. Regardless of any other disagreements I'm not trying to be a dick here. I sincerely apologize if i've come across that way.[/QUOTE] That's alright mate, I understand that in the heat of the argument it's possible for things to get a bit rambunctious. To be honest, I'm just trying to understand what you're argument is but it's a bit difficult to piece together from the various bits you've posted, I'm sorry if I've come off like I'm deliberately trying to misrepresent your posts, could you summarize your main argument please? [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Metist;49702977] Nice conspiracy theory there champ. What would they have to gain by limiting their own sells? [B]It's amazing the mental gymnastics SJWs will use to justify censorship even when TECHMO THEMSELVES say it's because of it.[/B][/QUOTE] The problem with the use of the term 'SJW' is that it's simply a pejorative term rather than describing some set idea or behavior. Anyone can use it in any context to insult anyone they like (similar to how a Fox News anchor might use the term "comie socialist liberal" to insult anyone they like). It would be much better to describe the specific behavior you mean when you use the term or, baring that, use a more specific term like "regressive" (from the Bill Maher discussion on the subject) or "PC" (which is also misused by a lot of people, but at least people will know what you're talking about).

[QUOTE=Paige;49702645]not to mention the 3rd post in that thread is this [IMG]http://puu.sh/n16CV/068d8b823d.png[/IMG] like are you kidding me? the "pussification" of the world? are we really still using pussy as an insult and to mean something weak lol [/QUOTE] Holy shit. This post is so ironic it's amazing. You are arguing people aren't more insecure and easily offended by getting offended by the word pussy. [editline]8th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Paige;49703014]ahaha that's great, you think i'm some kidn of "SJW" that's really funny. thank you for proving my ENTIRE POINT.[/QUOTE] Your entire point? Wasn't your point that it was all a conspiracy stunt? You haven't given a single amount of evidence to support this. You are seriously nuts if you think Techmo plans on making money buy not selling game copies. And yes, making up retarded conspiracy theories in order to help your mental gymnastics does make you look like an SJW. You have yet to form a single point that makes any logical sense. You going "haha, you called me an SJW" doesn't make any of your points in any way less horribly wrong.

[QUOTE=Metist;49703219]Holy shit. This post is so ironic it's amazing. You are arguing people aren't more insecure and easily offended by getting offended by the word pussy.[/QUOTE] I don't think he's getting offended over the word 'pussy'. I think he's pointing out how immature it is to use 'pussy' as an insult. Unless we're gonna change the meaning of the word 'offended' to mean disagreeing with someone for any reason and not specifically disagreeing with someone because you find something they've done to be personally insulting. In that case, you're getting offended over him getting offended by the word 'pussy'. ...And I'm getting offended over you getting offended over him getting offended by the word 'pussy'.

[QUOTE=Zyler;49703246]I don't think he's getting offended over the word 'pussy'. I think he's pointing out how immature it is to use 'pussy' as an insult. [/QUOTE] Calling someone immature for calling a group of people pussies doesn't make an argument. Someone can be both Immature and right. You going "Well look how immature he is" adds nothing. I would rather be rude and immature if if it meant my points still made sense.

[QUOTE=Metist;49703446]Calling someone immature for calling a group of people pussies doesn't make an argument. Someone can be both Immature and right. You going "Well look how immature he is" adds nothing. I would rather be rude and immature if if it meant my points still made sense.[/QUOTE] Well, whether it makes an argument or not depends on the argument. If the argument is "does calling people 'pussy' make me seem immature" then yes, it is an argument. The reason we try not to use abrasive language isn't because it makes us right or wrong, it's because screaming obscenities at somebody isn't likely to convince them to reconsider their viewpoint on any issue. You can be right and still be an asshole about it.

[QUOTE=Paige;49702477]It's hilarious to me that anyone still thinks any of this has to do with self-censorship. Capcom and the DOA Devs are just playing up the easy to provoke "WOW SJWS ARE RUINING MY GAMES" crowd by blaming things on the scary sjw boogiemen. then it's reported on every gaming news site and overnight they went from unknown release outside of fans to the series, to a household name and a trending topic among gamers. Seriously. To imply that scary sjw's are taking away your games or that changing the camera angle on mika's buttslap is "ruining the artistic integrity of the character" or is the "downfall of modern art as we know it" is fucking ludicrous and we all know that.[/QUOTE] Do you have a single bit of evidence to support this? What would Techmo have to gain by doing this? They must be masterminds to realize a single facebook comment would start a controversy and they must be the worlds biggest trolls to do it at the cost of their own game sales.

[QUOTE=Zyler;49703246]I don't think he's getting offended over the word 'pussy'. I think he's pointing out how immature it is to use 'pussy' as an insult. Unless we're gonna change the meaning of the word 'offended' to mean disagreeing with someone for any reason and not specifically disagreeing with someone because you find something they've done to be personally insulting. In that case, you're getting offended over him getting offended by the word 'pussy'. ...And I'm getting offended over you getting offended over him getting offended by the word 'pussy'.[/QUOTE] Being offended shouldn't entitle anybody to anything anyways. It doesn't give you a moral high ground or make you right.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49705352]Being offended shouldn't entitle anybody to anything anyways. It doesn't give you a moral high ground or make you right.[/QUOTE] This is true. Someone can call you a fucking nigger cunt faggot kike and still have a good argument as to why Bernie sanders should be president 2016. Moving the argument to focuses on the words being used rather than the point being shown is another example of the problems with "Safe spaces" or why trying to make anything, an argument or a game specifically not to offend is bad.

Now for a little toilet humor [t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/'Fountain'_by_Marcel_Duchamp_(replica).JPG[/t] Oh wait its art. But it's disgusting, remove it. Wait, [URL="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4059997.stm"]it was voted most influential 20th century piece?[/URL] Weird. Well I don't think it should be considered art. It's completely unnecessary and gross alongside works like Picasso, Rembrandt, Michelangelo, and Davinci, get rid of it. Maybe it's just a fluke. Surely there's nothing worse than displaying a toilet next to respectable art. [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Prize#2003"]Oh wait there is[/URL](slightly NSFW) For those not wanting to risk the click [quote]Jake and Dinos Chapman caused press attention for a sculpture, Death, that appeared to be two cheap plastic blow-up sex dolls with a dildo. It was in fact made of bronze, painted to look like plastic.[/quote] The recipient of the 2003 Turner Prize. Art doesn't care whether you think it's vulgar, or inappropriate. Someone out there won't see it the same way as you do. Sometimes art will make you uncomfortable. LISA makes me very uncomfortable, but it's a great game that I wouldn't remove anything from.

[img]https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/4/13/1428894048093/7da74084-6bde-4a72-b646-f14044619396-2060x1236.jpeg?w=645&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&[/img] [Img]http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/images-artistic/cnidus-aphrodite.jpg[/img] When will we finally censor this sick filth.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49702598]It's kinda creepy tbqh[/QUOTE] yah those weird yellow monkey video games are gross tbh fam smh texasbbq

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49702598]It's kinda creepy tbqh[/QUOTE] How is liking a butt creepy? You know both men and women generally find butts attractive right?

I don't like the sexualization of Street Fighter. It used to be a game I play with my family, but now I just feel awkward when I see pretty much any of the female cast, especially Laura and Mika. I feel that there could have been better characters used or different ways to represent them, and there are a lot of people who feel the same way. It's not a matter or sexism or censorship; it's just making the game not entirely disgusting.

[QUOTE=Flyingman356;49696163]Are you seriously trying to tell me that you don't think the perspective of the audience matters in media?[/QUOTE] The perspective of the audience definitely matters in media. Too bad most of those complaning about ~problematic~ content in video games are not the audience, have never been the audience, and will never be the audience. [QUOTE]What you consider to be censorship, I consider to be changes deliberately made to be more inclusive to a wider audience.[/QUOTE] Plenty of people dislike the Nazis, let's take out nazi imagery from Inglorious Basterds. I'm sure that will bring in new customers and won't have any negative impact on the original product. Let's also add air horns and hitmarkers. Gotta get dat call of duty audience. [QUOTE]you'll just have to suck it up and accept that not everything's for you[/QUOTE] Thank you, I'm gonna quote this every time someone gets offended by pixel asses and demands content to be cut.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;49708091]How is liking a butt creepy? You know both men and women generally find butts attractive right?[/QUOTE] I guess Zilla can't stand women in gaming.

[QUOTE=One Ear Ninja;49708275]different ways to represent them, and there are a lot of people who feel the same way. It's not a matter or sexism or censorship; it's just making the game not entirely disgusting.[/QUOTE] First, the street fighter series has always had sexy characters. 2nd You don't think an over the top sexy wreslter should not be represented in an over the top and sexy way? 3rd, its amazing that you find a sexiness disgusting. How do you deal with muscular men at the Gym? [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] Also Mika was one of the most requested character. I don't know what "better characters" you wanted in but many people are happy about Mika.