A history of the PG-13 rating, including why it's so neutered today
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[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;45929393]The truly good filmmakers transcend these restrictions and can make a successful, artistic film regardless of rating (i.e. Tarantino, Spielberg, Nolan, Scorsese, etc.)
However this really does suck for filmmakers who are trying to start out and make a name for themselves, since you can only really make automatic hits like that if you're already a big shot[/QUOTE]
I seriously wonder what's going to happen when Scorsese dies and Tarantino retires. Christopher Nolan makes great movies but I can still see them being made by other people like him. Unless there's another 90s-like era for independent filmmakers, we're not going to be seeing much originality in the mainstream film industry for a while.... And if we do, it will play in a single theater that is four hours away.
Would be good to see Miramax back in its prime, a lot of good shit used to come from Miramax, now they're just that quiet bunch that sits in the corner
[QUOTE=mochisushi;45927206]People will throw a fit if advertisers lie, that's the standard.[/QUOTE]
It's not working for the game industry. People should have known better with Simcity, but the hype train took the better of them.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;45929184]Australia's rating system is probably the best example of how ratings should be done for TV's and movies
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MA15+ is that rating you give to films which are borderline adult, R is applied automatically if there's sex scenes which are super not appropriate to 15 year olds
G, PG and M are mostly the PG-13 of America, films can still be advertised even if they're R, I remember seeing the Wolf of Wall street get advertised a lot and that was an R rated film
America needs a rating overhaul and perhaps a unified rating system, where games, movies and TV can all be rated under one system instead of multiple and confusing systems/guidelines
[editline]9th September 2014[/editline]
Like honestly if wolf of wallstreet did not include those sex scenes and intense amount of drug use but still retained the 600+ use of the word "fuck", Australia would of slapped it with an MA15+ rating
Also not pictured is X18+, its called the death rating as it can only be sold in territories (which is the NT and ACT), it's illegal to have an X18+ film in the normal states for some reason. X18 is automatically given if the film has un-simulated sex (basically porno)[/QUOTE]
Yea, ours is pretty reasonable if you ask me except when it comes to X18+ films and games. We even have an exemption to the ratings if it's an educational or scientific show.
[editline]9th September 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Larikang;45898358]If you want to get even more pissed about ratings, check out "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" (I think it's on Netflix). The system is even more broken than this guy points out.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45927644]That's true.
But just to be fair let's take the case of Passchendaele which was made here in Alberta. It's got rated 14A here in Canada and R in America.
In America it got an R for "sequences of realistic graphic war violence and sexuality"(pulled from IMDB).
Good movie by the way.[/QUOTE]
No, no it wasn't.
wow thats way smarter than what i thought it was i just thought everyone was a moron who liked shitty movies and thats why there were shitty movies
like suckerpunch
what's funny is that just like the ESRB, the MPAA's ratings hold very little to no sway legally, they're just guidelines
the only restriction comes to NC-17 rated movies, which i've never seen advertised at a theater before
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;45932072]wow thats way smarter than what i thought it was i just thought everyone was a moron who liked shitty movies and thats why there were shitty movies
like suckerpunch[/QUOTE]
There would still be shitty movies, but that doesn't mean this isn't a shitty system.
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the only restriction comes to NC-17 rated movies, which i've never seen advertised at a theater before[/QUOTE]
That's because the MPAA has a shit attack and won't even allow them to run ads. They have to rework the movie to make it fit at least an R.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;45932120]what's funny is that just like the ESRB, the MPAA's ratings hold very little to no sway legally, they're just guidelines
the only restriction comes to NC-17 rated movies, which i've never seen advertised at a theater before[/QUOTE]
Except that every major movie theatre chain in the US agrees to follow them. They're also the reason you don't see NC17 trailers in the US; they choose not to show them.
[QUOTE=download;45932375]Except that every major movie theatre chain in the US agrees to follow them.[/QUOTE]
you could still theoretically open your own theater and play whatever the hell you wanted to whoever you wanted
[QUOTE=FFStudios;45933362]you could still theoretically open your own theater and play whatever the hell you wanted to whoever you wanted[/QUOTE]
I advise your not to run CP; that will get you put in jail.
Never had a problem with the Dutch system Kijkwijzer.
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"Hm, this movie is 16+ and i wonder why it is 16+. Ah it has the spider icon and the fist icon so that means its a pretty tense/scary movie with some violence in it."
We don't even have a 18+ rating :v:
I think the Irish film ratings are pretty good:
G - Suitable for everyone including school kids.
PG - Suitable for children aged 8 and up.
12A - Suitable for 12 and up, can be viewed by those under 12 with parental/adult supervision.
15A - Suitable for 15 and up, can be viewed by those under 15 with parental/adult supervision.
16 - Suitable for those 16 and up. Cinemas can not allow those under 16 to view the film.
18 - Suitable for those 18 and up. Cinemas can not allow those under 18 to view the film.
For some reason we also have DVD ratings of G, PG, 12, 15, and 18, where it is an offence for stores to sell 15 and 18 rated films to those under those ages. Usually 15A and 16 rated films are released as 15 rated DVDs, though very occasionally a 16 rated film will be released as an 18 rated DVD.
Films also seem to be rated lower than they are in the UK (I only know this because I see the UK ratings on the UK TV stations), often a film rated as 18 in the UK will be rated 16 here.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;45934578]Never had a problem with the Dutch system Kijkwijzer.
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"Hm, this movie is 16+ and i wonder why it is 16+. Ah it has the spider icon and the fist icon so that means its a pretty tense/scary movie with some violence in it."
We don't even have a 18+ rating :v:[/QUOTE]
I really like this, actually. Most of the little images describing content make a lot of sense, except for the one with the person screaming. What's that one for? Is it a symbol for "This film has really loud noises?"
[QUOTE=Sashaisme;45935291]I really like this, actually. Most of the little images describing content make a lot of sense, except for the one with the person screaming. What's that one for? Is it a symbol for "This film has really loud noises?"[/QUOTE]
Thats for swearing, the very last one at the bottom is for discrimination.
if only esrb did the ratings for films too
[QUOTE=darth-veger;45935442]Thats for swearing, the very last one at the bottom is for discrimination.[/QUOTE]
that makes a lot more sense, I assumed that one was for interracial gang bangs.
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