SWAT on a drug raid, shot and killed man with a golf club.
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[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;27046089]Then he is an idiot. Natural Selection.
"Police are storming my house... WAT DO!1!?!?!1"[/QUOTE]
You are fucking disgusting.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;27046249]I'm sure there are occasions when they shoot to wound, shooting to kill 100% of the time is stupid[/QUOTE]
Case in point:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvWaviIXsk[/media]
Even tho the guy wasn't shot directly he was disarmed which still counts.
[editline]29th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Xolo;27046252]You are fucking disgusting.[/QUOTE]
Take it up with my lawyer... oh wait.
[editline]29th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Monty Pie-thon;27046244]No, it isn't impossible. The man didn't attack the SWAT officers, he was standing in a menacing pose, but [B]clearly wasn't given a chance to process that the men who broke in were cops[/B] before he was shot (multiple times). The officer should have aimed at him and yelled for him to drop the golf club. If the homeowner ran at him (even if it was still a case of mistaken identity) then the shooting would seem much more reasonable.[/QUOTE]
YES HE WAS!
/caps
Standard SWAT procedure, shoot anything that moves
[QUOTE=Monty Pie-thon;27046244]No, it isn't. The man didn't attack the SWAT officers, he was standing in a menacing pose, but clearly wasn't given a chance to process that the men who broke in were cops before he was shot (multiple times). The officer should have aimed at him and yelled for him to drop the golf club. If the homeowner ran at him (even if it was still a case of mistaken identity) then the shooting would seem much more reasonable.[/QUOTE]
I've said it many times. That could have been a gun. It could have been a bazooka. All they registered is that he had a weapon. They weren't going to give him time to use it, or they, and their friends could have died.
And the cops were yelling that they were cops all the way through. The SWAT team took precautions, precautions that could very possibly risk their lives by tipping off real criminals with real weapons where they're arriving, for the sake of this not happening.
It's not fool proof, as seen by this fool with a golf club.
It's not hard at all to differentiate between a golf club and a bazooka, and that's a fucking stupid comparison. If they really couldn't tell if it was a gun or not in that amount of time, they shouldn't be working for the police.
[QUOTE=Monty Pie-thon;27046244]No, it isn't impossible. The man didn't attack the SWAT officers, he was standing in a menacing pose, but clearly wasn't given a chance to process that the men who broke in were cops before he was shot (multiple times). The officer should have aimed at him and yelled for him to drop the golf club. If the homeowner ran at him (even if it was still a case of mistaken identity) then the shooting would seem much more reasonable.[/QUOTE]
How do you know if they knew it was a fucking golf club and not a sword? The SWAT team don't go yelling "DROP THE GOD DAMN CLUB YOU DUMBASS" when they have clearly stated that here comes the cavalry and are clearing the house. They either use less then lethal to make the suspect non threatening or they shoot the guy dead.
Simple as that.
If they wanted to reason with the suspect they wouldn't have called a fucking SWAT team to the scene in the first place.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;27046260]Case in point:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvWaviIXsk[/media]
Even tho the guy wasn't shot directly he was disarmed which still counts.
[editline]29th December 2010[/editline]
Take it up with my lawyer... oh wait.
[editline]29th December 2010[/editline]
YES HE WAS!
/caps[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter if they had one guy screaming with perfect diction. Criminals planning on raping your family later while you watch can also yell "Police!" as they kick in your door. Don't forget to mention you have 5-6 officers shouting the same thing out of sync.
[QUOTE=Xolo;27046295]It's not hard at all to differentiate between a golf club and a bazooka, and that's a fucking stupid comparison. If they really couldn't tell if it was a gun or not in that amount of time, they shouldn't be working for the police.[/QUOTE]
Jesus Christ, do you want all SWAT members to wait a second so they can be sure of exactly what the armed enemy is using? Despite the fact that the armed person would only have to squeeze his finger ever so slightly to kill you and your friends? Oh hey SWAT team I realise you're putting your life at stake to ensure that large threats to my life are taken care of, can you please cater more to the deaf fat guys by taking a second to make sure that everyone realises that he's holding is something only vaguely gunlike, even if it kills Joe days before his daughter is born?
Also, hyperbole. Learn it.
[QUOTE=Monty Pie-thon;27046345]It doesn't matter if they had one guy screaming with perfect diction. Criminals planning on raping your family later while you watch can also yell "Police!" as they kick in your door. Don't forget to mention you have 5-6 officers shouting the same thing out of sync.[/QUOTE]
Why would 5 - 6 criminals make such a scene of a robbery? Do they want to get caught or are they just as retarded as the criminal in this video?
[QUOTE=Monty Pie-thon;27046345]It doesn't matter if they had one guy screaming with perfect diction. Criminals planning on raping your family later while you watch can also yell "Police!" as they kick in your door. Don't forget to mention you have 5-6 officers shouting the same thing out of sync.[/QUOTE]
Of course it matters you ignoramus!
[editline]29th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;27046376]Why would 5 - 6 criminals make such a scene of a robbery? Do they want to get caught or are they just as retarded as the criminal in this video?[/QUOTE]
They would be the rare polite robbers.
[QUOTE=Rock Ironrod;27046354]Jesus Christ, do you want all SWAT members to wait a second so they can be sure of exactly what the armed enemy is using? Despite the fact that the armed person would only have to squeeze his finger ever so slightly to kill you and your friends? Oh hey SWAT team I realise you're putting your life at stake to ensure that large threats to my life are taken care of, can you please cater more to the deaf fat guys by taking a second to make sure that everyone realises that he's holding is something only vaguely gunlike, even if it kills Joe days before his daughter is born?
Also, hyperbole. Learn it.[/QUOTE]
In the same time it would take to register that he even has a weapon and to react to that fact he could've pulled a trigger and killed someone.
[img]http://www.golfgizmachi.com/images/golfpic3_full.jpg[/img]
Yep, they sure do look like dangerous firearms. :ohdear:
[QUOTE=Monty Pie-thon;27046442]In the same time it would take to register that he even has a weapon and to react to that fact he could've pulled a trigger and killed someone.
[img_thumb]http://www.golfgizmachi.com/images/golfpic3_full.jpg[/img_thumb]
Yep, they sure do look like dangerous firearms. :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1417125/Boy-five-killed-with-golf-club-on-Christmas-Day.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;27046463][url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1417125/Boy-five-killed-with-golf-club-on-Christmas-Day.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I doubt the five year old kid was wearing a helmet and protective gear, like these guys
They just rushed in, and he rushed around the corner, in a dark area. They saw a metallic blur. Posting stills of golfclubs in a well let area with a juxtaposing background makes you look like a cock.
[QUOTE=Trumple;27046473]I doubt the five year old kid was wearing a helmet and protective gear, like these guys[/QUOTE]
Point being that golf club isn't much different from a baseball bat. It's a dangerous weapon no matter what you people say.
[QUOTE=Monty Pie-thon;27046442]In the same time it would take to register that he even has a weapon and to react to that fact he could've pulled a trigger and killed someone.
[img_thumb]http://www.golfgizmachi.com/images/golfpic3_full.jpg[/img_thumb]
Yep, they sure do look like dangerous firearms. :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
You are so incredibly dense that it's pointless to argue with you because you'll never see reason.
[media]http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1559/gunsx.png[/media]
Holy fuck he has a spear
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;27046501]You are so incredibly dense that it's pointless to argue with you because you'll never see reason.[/QUOTE]
Are you are too interested in this argument to see from his perspective
the system works
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;27046488]Point being that golf club isn't much different from a baseball bat. It's a dangerous weapon no matter what you people say.[/QUOTE]
Not if you have body armor and a helmet
If the helmets cannot stop bullets, what other point is there for them?
[QUOTE=Trumple;27046523]Not if you have body armor and a helmet
If the helmets cannot stop bullets, what other point is there for them?[/QUOTE]
They aren't full encased in armour, and body armour will only stop a bullet from penetrating you. If you got shot in the chest with a bullet proof vest on, it will still break your fucking ribs.
[img]http://www.kalamazoocity.org/images/swat.jpg[/img]
[img]http://armyboyz.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/swat_team.jpg[/img]
And they seem to have a ridiculous amount of protection on the face area.
One good hit with a golf club in your face and that's it for you.
You think that he's going to hit them ontop of their heads?
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;27046521]Are you are too interested in this argument to see from his perspective
the system works[/QUOTE]
What?
[editline]29th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Trumple;27046523]Not if you have body armor and a helmet
If the helmets cannot stop bullets, what other point is there for them?[/QUOTE]
You don't know much about helmets obviously.
hur dur shrapnel guise
[QUOTE=Trumple;27046523]Not if you have body armor and a helmet
If the helmets cannot stop bullets, what other point is there for them?[/QUOTE]
Huh, yeah. Helmet = protects from blunt attacks. No, they don't even protect, they absorb.
Anyway, though they had to react, this was just too much. In doubt, you don't open fire on someone and irremediably cause his death. A tazer shot sure is painful, but used correctly, you can avoid a potential threat without as much chances of causing its death than with a firearm.
But the guy who got shot is still a dumbass. I don't blame him for having a gofl club in a hand, but for not putting it on the ground. If policemen suddenly aimed at me and shouted stuff, the first thing I would do is be sure I am not holding anything, and show my hands are empty.
this thread is scary, its like no one registers the fact that a man was shot and killed and instead people are actually trying to argue that a guy with a golf club posed a serious threat to a SWAT team
You haven't read shit have you?
[QUOTE=combine487;27046626]this thread is scary, its like no one registers the fact that a man was shot and killed and instead people are actually trying to argue that a guy with a golf club posed a serious threat to a SWAT team[/QUOTE]
It's scary that people are so absurdly obsessed with BASHEN DA FUKKEN PIGS 420 4 LYF they fail to realise that the SWAT team is human.
And read the thread to realise why he could have been a threat.
[QUOTE=combine487;27046626]this thread is scary, its like no one registers the fact that a man was shot and killed and instead people are actually trying to argue that a guy with a golf club posed a serious threat to a SWAT team[/QUOTE]
Please read before you post stupid things.
[QUOTE=Rock Ironrod;27046640]It's scary that people are so absurdly obsessed with BASHEN DA FUKKEN PIGS 420 4 LYF they fail to realise that the SWAT team is human.
And read the thread to realise why he could have been a threat.[/QUOTE]
All the 420 4 LYF people I know desperately avoid the Police, they don't hate them
You're thinking of chavs man
Oh and yeah, a golf club is a threat. Not a mortal one as look as they are able to stop the guy before he manages to bash 4 times his golf club through the skull of one of the swat members.
A single good golf club swing can still cause big damages, especially to the face. A helmet will sure absorb the impact, but internal damages are inevitable. If a swat gets hit by such an improvised weapon straight to the face, he will get his nose broken. At the back of the head, huge chances of neck rupture. On the side of the head, almost obligatory stun or even internal trauma.
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