Martin Shkreli's trolling transcends space and time
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[QUOTE=nVidia;51572895]Nothing wrong with capitalism.[/QUOTE]how so?
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;51573005]I have never actually investigated who and what Martin Shkreli is before I read this thread. By the combined forces of carcarcargo and Jund's wilful ignorance and Shkreli's honestly reasonable explanations, I'm now totally a fan of this guy. I honestly don't see anything wrong with what he's done.
[editline]23rd December 2016[/editline]
God damn I hate when people do this. You were making nearly every other post last page literally right up until proof that debunked your unfounded claim was posted, then you went radio silent only to jump shamelessly right back in once you felt that situation had calmed down. Can you acknowledge that you were totally, 100% wrong?[/QUOTE]
He's still a dick
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/02/how-pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-described-his-own-drug-price-hike-almost-all-of-it-is-profit/[/url]
[URL]https://democrats-oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/documents/Memo%20on%20Turing%20Documents.pdf[/URL]
Dunno why everyone here seems to think he's some lovely altruist, hell he doesn't even run the company any more after getting into legal trouble, which was unrelated but still led to him being fired.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;51573194]He's still a dick
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/02/how-pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-described-his-own-drug-price-hike-almost-all-of-it-is-profit/[/url]
[URL]https://democrats-oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/documents/Memo%20on%20Turing%20Documents.pdf[/URL]
Dunno why everyone here seems to think he's some lovely altruist, hell he doesn't even run the company any more after getting into legal trouble, which was unrelated but still led to him being fired.[/QUOTE]
Acknowledge the data or leave thread
[QUOTE=WJS;51573216]Acknowledge the data or leave thread[/QUOTE]
I just posted documents of the unscrupulous shit he's been pulling and the negative impacts it had, the data from their website is just PR data
[QUOTE]The documents obtained by the Committee indicate that instead of lowering its prices toprevious levels in response to widespread concern, Turing employed a public relations strategyto try to divert attention to patient assistance programs (PAPs) and research and development(R&D) efforts. Internal communications show that Turing officials joked about this strategy anddid not in fact intend to lower the price of Daraprim.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51573054]how so?[/QUOTE]
Getting rich for scamming subsidies wouldn't be possible under capitalism.
The problem is that America is currently operating a corny meme version of capitalism.
Under capitalism the funds would be private, no taxpayer money would be wasted on dumb shit like this.
[QUOTE=nVidia;51573229]Getting rich for scamming subsidies wouldn't be possible under capitalism.
The problem is that America is currently operating a corny meme version of capitalism.
Under capitalism the funds would be private, no taxpayer money would be wasted on dumb shit like this.[/QUOTE]
There's many kinds of capitalism. European countries still count even though most of them are also socialist for example.
I think the word you're looking for is anarcho-capitalism, or at least something in the libertarian range of things.
I agree on the US's system though. It looks like a patchwork of different ideologies with almost no regard for overall feasibility.
[QUOTE=nVidia;51573229]The problem is that America is currently operating a corny meme version of capitalism.[/QUOTE]a Crony meme version
what would be the "purest" example of a capitalist system so far? because like Tamschi said, there seems to be several ways of doing the whole market economy thing
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51573458]a Crony meme version
what would be the "purest" example of a capitalist system so far? because like Tamschi said, there seems to be several ways of doing the whole market economy thing[/QUOTE]
Laissez-faire
"an economic system in which transactions between private parties are free from government interference such as regulations, privileges, tariffs, and subsidies"
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire[/url]
I think that chick is legally retarded.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51573458]a Crony meme version
what would be the "purest" example of a capitalist system so far? because like Tamschi said, there seems to be several ways of doing the whole market economy thing[/QUOTE]
Free market i.e no government bailing out bankrupt companies.
Make the government as small as possible, and have taxes as low as possible because you don't need all those people deciding if you can legally accept a work contract for less than 15€ an hour.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51573617]The girl is nuts, but Martin is seriously a piece of human garbage and I have no idea how people stand up for him, he's such a douchebag.
[editline]23rd December 2016[/editline]
He has probably the most punchable face I've ever seen too.
[img]http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/martin-shkreli.png[/img][/QUOTE]
I had the same opinion of him as you prior to reading this thread and doing some research.
tbh he seems like a standup guy
I hate his smug fucking face.
This thread was pretty informative
Why did he go back on his wu tang album ownership when trump was elected, though? Can someone explain that? Probably the worst thing he's done, imo
[QUOTE=nVidia;51572895]Nothing wrong with capitalism.[/QUOTE]
Capitalism is just like a engine.
It needs regulation to both keep it from stalling, and from keeping it out of a self-destructive runaway condition.
[QUOTE=MasterKade;51573729]This thread was pretty informative
Why did he go back on his wu tang album ownership when trump was elected, though? Can someone explain that? Probably the worst thing he's done, imo[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/arts/music/martin-shkreli-releases-parts-of-wu-tang-clan-album-after-trump-victory.html]Here, maybe?[/url]
[quote]“I’ve got to decide how to put out — there’s about 30, 35 tracks,” he said during the livestream.[b] “I actually have a contract with the Wu-Tang Clan where I’m not allowed to do this.[/b] Obviously, I own the music and I bought it and I paid a lot of money for it. In many ways, the contract shouldn’t matter that much.”
“But I am a man of my word; I had to play a little bit of it,” he said.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Van-man;51573786]Capitalism is just like a engine.
It needs regulation to both keep it from stalling, and from keeping it out of a self-destructive runaway condition.[/QUOTE]
Saying capitalism, doesn't mean giving up on all regulations, that's called anarchism.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;51573458]a Crony meme version
what would be the "purest" example of a capitalist system so far? because like Tamschi said, there seems to be several ways of doing the whole market economy thing[/QUOTE]
Letting capitalism work, let failing companies fail instead of bailing them out, a less controlling and powerful government, making investments into small companies more worth while and less risky for the investor would be a more idealistic view of capitalism, but that isn't without drawbacks.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51573798]Even after looking into him, he's still a cunt. Just because the media played him the wrong way a few times doesn't mean he isn't an annoying bastard.[/QUOTE]
Nah he's actually pretty fucking awesome tbh
Shkreli was on bloomberg this morning and was wearing a very special pin.
[video=youtube;pN3KgV9xZv8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN3KgV9xZv8[/video]
I'm sure he did it just for the troll value. He knows Pepe is a controversial topic and he knows both sides of the political spectrum will be unable to stop talking about it online.
All the more attention to him and his ego.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;51570977]HIV isn't exactly fucking uncommon. And guess which type of people saddled the middle class with that debt? Oh yeah people like Martin Shkreli considering medical fees are one of the biggest causes of bankruptcy in the US
But who cares about them eh, what really matters is how hilarious his latest petulant trolling was, that absolves everything.[/QUOTE]
The drug [B]doesn't treat HIV[/B]. It's for toxoplasmosis and cystoisosporiasis, which are conditions that are more life-threatening if you [B]have[/B] HIV. It can also prevent Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia if you [B]have[/B] HIV but is rarely used anymore for that purpose. Jesus, at least spend a second googling the subject before you spew nonsense. Not everyone with HIV requires daraprim, and very few actually require it.
[QUOTE=Aetna;51574216]The drug [B]doesn't treat HIV[/B]. It's for toxoplasmosis and cystoisosporiasis, which are conditions that are more life-threatening if you [B]have[/B] HIV. It can also prevent Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia if you [B]have[/B] HIV but is rarely used anymore for that purpose. Jesus, at least spend a second googling the subject before you spew nonsense. Not everyone with HIV requires daraprim, and very few actually require it.[/QUOTE]
I doubt he'll listen if his radio silence followed by quick zingers is any indication.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51574301]I doubt he'll listen if his radio silence followed by quick zingers is any indication.[/QUOTE]
It's just so frustrating when people don't bother to take a few minutes to LISTEN to Martin and then do a little research to verify his claims. I feel like big pharma and the government are using him as a scapegoat/distraction for all the nasty shit they do behind the scenes, when in reality what he did had very little effect on anything. I really, really doubt that someone making 60k a year has health insurance that refuses to pay for Daraprim; and even if they did, Martin's company will literally send it to you for free. No hooks or strings, it's pretty straightforward.
At this point I think cargo is just trolling. Nobody is that fucking stupid, right?
right?
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51573617]The girl is nuts, but Martin is seriously a piece of human garbage and I have no idea how people stand up for him, he's such a douchebag.
[editline]23rd December 2016[/editline]
He has probably the most punchable face I've ever seen too.
[img]http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/martin-shkreli.png[/img][/QUOTE]
So an entrepreneur who came from nothing does something the government does [b]on the daily[/b] and HE'S the douchebag? Hate the game, not the player. Ffs in reality he provided assistance to the tiniest statistic of people who required the drug, and the government lashed back by trying to portray him as some evil businessmen to cover their own asses. You literally played right into it.
[QUOTE=WJS;51574325]At this point I think cargo is just trolling. Nobody is that fucking stupid, right?
right?[/QUOTE]
Nah, you'd be surprised at the lengths people will go to avoid admitting they're wrong
[QUOTE=nVidia;51573832]Saying capitalism doesn't mean giving up on all regulations, that's called anarchism.[/QUOTE]
Far too many people who advocate for capitalism are very keen the the idea of the regulations disappearing, yet also claim to be against anarchism.
They are also the kind thinking only with their Swiss bank account in mind, so there's that.
[QUOTE=nVidia;51573832]Saying capitalism doesn't mean giving up on all regulations, that's called anarchism.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Van-man;51574680]Far too many people who advocate for capitalism are very keen the the idea of the regulations disappearing, yet also claim to be against anarchism.
They are also the kind thinking only with their Swiss bank account in mind, so there's that.[/QUOTE]
Not regulating transactions between private parties doesn't equate not having rule of law.
You're confusing regulations with law in general.
[QUOTE=Adrian Veidt;51574706]Not regulating transactions between private parties doesn't equate not having rule of law.
You're confusing regulations with law in general.[/QUOTE]
Regulations are upheld by law, otherwise they'd be unenforceable.
[QUOTE=Van-man;51574718]Regulations are upheld by law, otherwise they'd be unenforceable.[/QUOTE]
Yes but my point is that we can choose not to regulate transactions between private parties, and the economy at large, without abolishing the state altogether i.e. anarchism.
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