Call of dutys best looking toy gun ever - General

[QUOTE=Riller;38582370]...The fuck does hardscope mean? Letting the animation finish?[/QUOTE] It means using the scope. [editline]25th November 2012[/editline] And yes, it's fucking retarded to quickscope.

[QUOTE=kaze4159;38576215]HL2's were better The SMG's reload is just you slapping the grip :v:[/QUOTE] actually the SMG in HL2 is a MP7 copy, which the magazine slides into the grip like a pistol. [video=youtube;Sjt62h56x-E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjt62h56x-E&feature=related[/video] i mean could be worse like the M4 in counterstrike source.

what in the fuck did you even say at the beginning of the video, op

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;38576273]MW2, BO, MW3, and BO2 are the same game with different textures, sounds, maps, models, killstreaks and weapon stats. If what you're saying is true then with proper mod tools you could create billion new CoDs that "wouldn't be the same game".[/QUOTE] Remember when i called you out on this hate posting thing in the last CoD thread? Remember when you defended yourself? Why do you even bother coming to these threads seriously. [editline]24th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Riller;38581901]The joke is that there's no map in Call of Duty games that have more than like, 50 metres of view range. They may be 150 by 150 metres or so big, but they're so cluttered and full of shit that you can't see beyond 25 most of the time. So the presence of .50 cal sniper rifles is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Actually CoD 4 and Black Ops 1 had pretty open map layouts. Hell, MW2 had a big field of grass for a map, and it was pretty good other than killstreaks raping in it. The amount of generalization, and bad opnions in this thread is rediculous. If you have an opinions, fine good for you. But if your opinion is based off of "facts" you make up yourself, and then do nothing but try to shove them down other people throats because you don't like that they are having fun with something, then you just look like an asshat. At least be informed and knowledgable before you spout your crap we aren't interested in hearing in the first place. Beyond that, why does anyone even hate on CoD anymore? Do you HONESTLY think you can come up with any sort of arguement, or complaint that hasnn't already been said a hundred times in every thread? We get it, you don't like it. We already know why you dont like it, everyone else says the EXACT SAME THING. At least come up with a new complaint like the game doesn't have Cats eating suishi with forks in it.

[QUOTE=Riller;38575271]Well. First off. You're playing Black Ops 2. That's pretty stupid of you, but I won't dwell on it for long. What I will tell you is, you're using a fucking pistol as a primary, of course it's going to go shittily. Moreso when it's a shotgun pistol, with the dumbfuck vaporizing pellets of Call of Duty. I haven't played BLOPS 2, but I can tell you right away, that Judge there is supposed to be used as a backup weapon for a mid-long range rifle, possibly something like the G3 from CoD4. It's there for when you either get ambushed, or have to have quick kills in really tight quarters, say, clearing out rooms on your way to your campy-spot. You're an idiot for calling it shitty, of course it's shitty if it's your primary. It wasn't ever meant to be used as that. It's a shotgun in your secondary slot, and one with a high rate of fire, at that.[/QUOTE] It's genuinely a shitty weapon though. It's completely useless, the range is so terrible you may as well just use a knife instead. It's inaccurate as hell even for a shotgun, the damage is terrible, and the reload speed is annoyingly long.

[QUOTE=Demolitions2;38582564]Remember when i called you out on this hate posting thing in the last CoD thread? Remember when you defended yourself? Why do you even bother coming to these threads seriously. [/QUOTE] You really should stop reading my posts as if there is "the game sucks because"/"the game is no fun because" in front of my every sentence. Yeah I know raidyr that you think that if someone has anything negative to say about CoD it means he's a hater on a bandwagon and whatever he's talking about it must be his reason why the game should be no fun to anyone ever.

I don't see anything wrong with his voice. It's a bit mumbly but otherwise fine.

[QUOTE=Riller;38582370]...The fuck does hardscope mean? Letting the animation finish?[/QUOTE] Using the weapon like it's supposed to be used. Btw I like how all hell got lose and everyones bashing eachother.

Blops 2 is actually fun and I like it, probably my favorite since 4. You guys need to stop blindly insulting it unless you've played it. I can understand insulting MW3 and the others, because those were bad. I like this one though.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;38582800]You really should stop reading my posts as if there is "the game sucks because"/"the game is no fun because" in front of my every sentence. Yeah I know raidyr that you think that if someone has anything negative to say about CoD it means he's a hater on a bandwagon and whatever he's talking about it must be his reason why the game should be no fun to anyone ever.[/QUOTE] What do you want to see come out of the new call of duty game? You're like the guy who puts something down but has nothing substantial enough to say to improve upon it. What do you want them to turn it into an RPG or something? Do you want airplanes? Maybe the flying spaghetti monster should come down and try to kill everyone on the map, would that be fun for you?

I played Black Ops 2 for the first time for a few hours today, and I had a blast. That's all that matters to me.

[QUOTE=ycap5;38584488]What do you want to see come out of the new call of duty game? You're like the guy who puts something down but has nothing substantial enough to say to improve upon it. What do you want them to turn it into an RPG or something? Do you want airplanes? Maybe the flying spaghetti monster should come down and try to kill everyone on the map, would that be fun for you?[/QUOTE] I didn't know you need to change core game to make a sequel. It's funny that you'd say that I have nothing substantial to say yet you'd use "arguments" like "you want to make it an RPG?" or some bullshit about spaghetti monster :v: And you missed for like 5th time that I didn't say anything about having fun. Maybe you'd actually reply to what I said instead of making stupid shit about spaghetti monsters.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;38586041]I didn't know you need to change core game to make a sequel. It's funny that you'd say that I have nothing substantial to say yet you'd use "arguments" like "you want to make it an RPG?" or some bullshit about spaghetti monster :v: And you missed for like 5th time that I didn't say anything about having fun. Maybe you'd actually reply to what I said instead of making stupid shit about spaghetti monsters.[/QUOTE] How old are you? You're being totally belligerent and you aren't bringing anything to the table so I'm gonna have to refer you to the argument pyramid. [img]http://cdn.overclock.net/3/39/39866d01_argument-pyramid.jpeg[/img] See you started at maybe a level 5, but slowly your argument degraded into a turd pile of useless statements. Oh by the way my question was: [quote]What do you want to see come out of the new call of duty game?[/quote]

Black Ops 2 is the best CoD game since CoD2 you bandwagoning nerds [editline]25th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ycap5;38589856]How old are you? You're being totally belligerent and you aren't bringing anything to the table so I'm gonna have to refer you to the argument pyramid. [img]http://cdn.overclock.net/3/39/39866d01_argument-pyramid.jpeg[/img] See you started at maybe a level 5, but slowly your argument degraded into a turd pile of useless statements.[/QUOTE] that picture is oozing sperg

[QUOTE=ycap5;38589856]How old are you? You're being totally belligerent and you aren't bringing anything to the table so I'm gonna have to refer you to the argument pyramid. [IMG]http://cdn.overclock.net/3/39/39866d01_argument-pyramid.jpeg[/IMG] See you started at maybe a level 5, but slowly your argument degraded into a turd pile of useless statements. Oh by the way my question was:[/QUOTE] How can you say things like "you're not bringing anything to the table" and "you have nothing substantial to say" and at the same time "counter argument" with saying that I want spaghetti monsters? You can't take a highground and spew bullshit at the same time. I've said my arguments and you haven't addressed any of them. That's why my last post doesn't have any substantial in it, there is nothing substantial to respond to in the first place. And your question is irrelevant. It's not that I want something out of CoD. Your question should be "what would new CoD have to have in order for you to call it a different game?" to which I'd refer you to this post [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1228119&p=38581572&viewfull=1#post38581572[/url]

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;38590381]blah blah blah[/QUOTE] [I][B] What do you want to see come out of the new call of duty game (in order for you to consider it good)? [/B][/I]

[QUOTE=ycap5;38584488]What do you want to see come out of the new call of duty game? You're like the guy who puts something down but has nothing substantial enough to say to improve upon it. What do you want them to turn it into an RPG or something? Do you want airplanes? Maybe the flying spaghetti monster should come down and try to kill everyone on the map, would that be fun for you?[/QUOTE] I don't know about Sil, but personally, I would rather there [I]not[/I] be a new call of duty game. I'm sure that Treyarch would be happy to work on something different for once. The problem with trying to think of ways to improve CoD is that it's so deeply set in its own bad game design, that trying to fix any of it would be to make radical changes in the game's structure. The first thing I'd probably be able to think of would be a serious improvement to the game's visuals. From Halo 1 to 3 there was always a jump in the graphics quality. Even from Halo 3 to 4 it's still been improving. The fact that CoD's look has improved little since Call of Duty 2 means they're missing a lot of opportunity to make their game a more cinematic experience (since that's mostly what they're going for) As far as the gameplay, like I said, I can't think of ways to improve it without making massive changes to how the gameplay has established itself over the years. My biggest issue with it is how the game treats you like a side character, while your NPC comrades are the main characters. You can't even go through a door without their permission. I'd prefer to go through the game at my own pace, not have to wait for the game to dictate how i ought to be playing it. I'd want shooting sections that actually let you handle them different ways depending on your play style. Rather than be a game of peekaboo with me and my enemy as we both pop in and out of cover on opposite ends of the hallway. I don't want a shooting gallery, I want to have an engagement with the enemy. I want to have a small but open area where i can decide which direction I can attack my enemy from, and with what kind of weapons I want to do it with. I know CoD wants to be cinematic, but it's trying much to hard to be a movie, instead of a game. It'd much rather play itself than let you intervene with what it's trying to do.

Has anyone actually realized that the guy's youtube link on his post leads to the channel of the video? He's advertising his own channel.

[QUOTE=TonyP;38590431][I][B] What do you want to see come out of the new call of duty game (in order for you to consider it good)? [/B][/I][/QUOTE] I answered that question. But you won't even read it so why are you asking? Considering the answer to your question is in the post you're "quoting" and you didn't read it.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;38590381]How can you say things like "you're not bringing anything to the table" and "you have nothing substantial to say" and at the same time "counter argument" with saying that I want spaghetti monsters? You can't take a highground and spew bullshit at the same time. I've said my arguments and you haven't addressed any of them. That's why my last post doesn't have any substantial in it, there is nothing substantial to respond to in the first place. And your question is irrelevant. It's not that I want something out of CoD. Your question should be "what would new CoD have to have in order for you to call it a different game?" to which I'd refer you to this post [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1228119&p=38581572&viewfull=1#post38581572[/url][/QUOTE] I'm alluding to the fact that you aren't telling anyone what you want out of the game. You are just saying what they already did and saying it's not enough to make it stand out from the others. You aren't suggesting anything -substantial-. You have nothing to suggest the make the game stand out from the others. They changed a lot of things in the newest COD but you don't think that's enough somehow. I asked you a question, and explained why I was asking you that question, respond to my question. Long story short you are :siren:[b]bandwagoning[/b]:siren: I mean look at Vman's post. [quote]The first thing I'd probably be able to think of would be a serious improvement to the game's visuals. From Halo 1 to 3 there was always a jump in the graphics quality. Even from Halo 3 to 4 it's still been improving. The fact that CoD's look has improved little since Call of Duty 2 means they're missing a lot of opportunity to make their game a more cinematic experience (since that's mostly what they're going for) As far as the gameplay, like I said, I can't think of ways to improve it without making massive changes to how the gameplay has established itself over the years. My biggest issue with it is how the game treats you like a side character, while your NPC comrades are the main characters. You can't even go through a door without their permission. I'd prefer to go through the game at my own pace, not have to wait for the game to dictate how i ought to be playing it. I'd want shooting sections that actually let you handle them different ways depending on your play style. Rather than be a game of peekaboo with me and my enemy as we both pop in and out of cover on opposite ends of the hallway. I don't want a shooting gallery, I want to have an engagement with the enemy. I want to have a small but open area where i can decide which direction I can attack my enemy from, and with what kind of weapons I want to do it with.[/quote] That's not bullshit, what you are saying is bullshit.

[QUOTE=The Vman;38590433]I don't know about Sil, but personally, I would rather there [I]not[/I] be a new call of duty game. I'm sure that Treyarch would be happy to work on something different for once. The problem with trying to think of ways to improve CoD is that it's so deeply set in its own bad game design, that trying to fix any of it would be to make radical changes in the game's structure. The first thing I'd probably be able to think of would be a serious improvement to the game's visuals. From Halo 1 to 3 there was always a jump in the graphics quality. Even from Halo 3 to 4 it's still been improving. The fact that CoD's look has improved little since Call of Duty 2 means they're missing a lot of opportunity to make their game a more cinematic experience (since that's mostly what they're going for) As far as the gameplay, like I said, I can't think of ways to improve it without making massive changes to how the gameplay has established itself over the years. My biggest issue with it is how the game treats you like a side character, while your NPC comrades are the main characters. You can't even go through a door without their permission. I'd prefer to go through the game at my own pace, not have to wait for the game to dictate how i ought to be playing it. I'd want shooting sections that actually let you handle them different ways depending on your play style. Rather than be a game of peekaboo with me and my enemy as we both pop in and out of cover on opposite ends of the hallway. I don't want a shooting gallery, I want to have an engagement with the enemy. I want to have a small but open area where i can decide which direction I can attack my enemy from, and with what kind of weapons I want to do it with. I know CoD wants to be cinematic, but it's trying much to hard to be a movie, instead of a game. It'd much rather play itself than let you intervene with what it's trying to do.[/QUOTE] I'm p sure we were talking about the multiplayer but ye no ones ever said the CoD campaign is perfect.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;38576273]MW2, BO, MW3, and BO2 are [I][B]the same[/B][/I] game with [B][I]different[/I][/B] textures, sounds, maps, models, killstreaks and weapon stats. If what you're saying is true then with proper mod tools you could create billion new CoDs that "wouldn't be the same game".[/QUOTE] Contradict yourself, why don't you? If you can say that about CoD, why aren't you complaining about Halo: Reach compared to Halo 4, or Madden, even?

[QUOTE=jbthekid;38593101]Contradict yourself, why don't you? If you can say that about CoD, why aren't you complaining about Halo: Reach compared to Halo 4, or Madden, even?[/QUOTE] Uncharted, Assassins Creed, Gears of War, almost every AAA franchise released in the past console generation.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;38593152]Uncharted, Assassins Creed, Gears of War, almost every AAA franchise released in the past console generation.[/QUOTE] "Oh, but it's called "Call of Duty", so we'll just choose that one to hate, even though we've never played it."

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;38581572]I have >700 hours played in MW2, >240 in BO1 and >430 in MW3. I've tried BO2 and it's still the same game[/QUOTE] It's still the same game but I buy it every year and get hundreds of hours of entertainment out of each release. :v:

[QUOTE=ycap5;38591281]I'm alluding to the fact that you aren't telling anyone what you want out of the game. You are just saying what they already did and saying it's not enough to make it stand out from the others. You aren't suggesting anything -substantial-. You have nothing to suggest the make the game stand out from the others. They changed a lot of things in the newest COD but you don't think that's enough somehow. I asked you a question, and explained why I was asking you that question, respond to my question. Long story short you are :siren:[B]bandwagoning[/B]:siren: I mean look at Vman's post. That's not bullshit, what you are saying is bullshit.[/QUOTE] What? He said that he'd like to see a change in graphics and that he doesn't know what could be changed in gameplay. (when making a sequel) If they would take Diablo2:Lord of Destruction and call it Diablo3, take Warcraft3: The Frozen Throne and call it Warcraft4, take StarCraft 2: Heart of the Swarm and call it Starcraft3 I'd be "bandwagoning" about it too. See blizzard knows when to call expansion an expansion. Do you honestly not see the difference in scope of changes from CoD4 to MW2 and changes between MW2, BO1, MW3 and BO2? That kind of change would make me call them new games. Basically if the changes in game can be achieved with installing texture, sound, map and weapon packs then the game should be called expansion at best. If having all those things changed means that I get a new game, then I can get skyrim2, 3, 4 and maybe 5 just using the workshop. All I'll get will be the same game, just changed a bit. That's why I don't call those recent CoDs new games. [QUOTE=jbthekid;38593101]Contradict yourself, why don't you?[/QUOTE] Wow it has different textures. It's a completely new game. Hold on I'm gonna change the textures in HL2 and play some HL3. [QUOTE=jbthekid;38593101]If you can say that about CoD, why aren't you complaining about Halo: Reach compared to Halo 4, or Madden, even?[/QUOTE] I'd say the same about every game that sells modpacks as new games. [QUOTE=jbthekid;38593172]"Oh, but it's called "Call of Duty", so we'll just choose that one to hate, even though we've never played it."[/QUOTE] "oh look at me I can't read" [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=38581572#post38581572"]I have >700 hours played in MW2, >240 in BO1 and >430 in MW3. I've tried BO2 and it's still the same game[/URL] [QUOTE=Raidyr;38593590]It's still the same game but I buy it every year and get hundreds of hours of entertainment out of each release. :v:[/QUOTE] Actually I bought MW2 and was pretty happy about my purchase. Then BO1 came out and I thought "well lets get that new one everyone's pissing about" and because the competitive play would switch from MW2 to BO1. And then when I bought and played it I thought "holy shit it's the same game" and then I was unhappy about buying the same game twice. MW3 I didn't buy. It was gifted to me. And guess what I was happy I didn't buy it (and pay 3rd time for the same game). And I won't buy new CoD unless they make one. And I don't see what your argument is trying to prove. That if it wasn't the same game I wouldn't play it for hours? What? How does one contradict another? Like I can't play the same game for thousands of hours. And the reason I've played so much CoD was competitive play with friends. Competitive gaming and my friends were the reason I have so many hours played not the game itself. So both your reasoning and base of your argument are wrong. Btw I'll be back in 2 days.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;38594911]"[B][I]oh look at me I can't read[/I][/B]" [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=38581572#post38581572"]I have >700 hours played in MW2, >240 in BO1 and >430 in MW3. I've tried BO2 and it's still the same game[/URL][/QUOTE] Was that a reply to your post? No? That's because it wasn't directed toward you. I was referencing the majority of people who actually [I]do[/I] complain about every Call of Duty game. [editline]25th November 2012[/editline] Also, you put over 430 hours into MW3 and you didn't think that was a copy+paste of MW2? If any two CoD games are similar, it's definitely MW2 and MW3.

I love that gun ingame... Duel wield that shit.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;38594911] Btw I'll be back in 2 days.[/QUOTE] oh no what will I do without Silly Sil arguing in every single CoD thread ever.

[QUOTE=jbthekid;38595128]Was that a reply to your post? No? That's because it wasn't directed toward you. I was referencing the majority of people who actually [I]do[/I] complain about every Call of Duty game.[/QUOTE] You and raidyr were going against my posts. I assumed you talked about me. Sorry if I was wrong. And I agree. People who complain about things without even trying them are wrong. [QUOTE=jbthekid;38595128]Also, you put over 430 hours into MW3 and you didn't think that was a copy+paste of MW2? If any two CoD games are similar, it's definitely MW2 and MW3.[/QUOTE] I did, what are you talking about? I've said that in almost every post. [QUOTE=Raidyr;38595645]oh no what will I do without Silly Sil arguing in every single CoD thread ever.[/QUOTE] Wow it's [I]almost [/I]like you addressed what I said. I said I'll be back in 2 days to let you know that the next reply from me you'd be getting would be tomorrow. Unfortunately my job errand didn't work out so I'm back.