• This Idiot Deserved It V2
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[QUOTE=SEKCobra;39411142]OC would have been an option if he really already needs excessive force after a few punches.[/QUOTE] I don't think OC would have been nearly as effective. I truly believe he made the right call using the Taser. It was a successful show of force. Nobody else attacked him because they didn't want to get tased either. He was severely outnumbered and by himself, so I wouldn't consider either the Taser or the hypothetical OC "excessive force." [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] Also, there were many bystanders present, including small children. A cloud of OC spray blowing around isn't exactly what you want in that situation.
He shouldn't even have a tazer if he's some mall cop, and I'm talking about OC gel, which is what everyone but army-shop self defense ladies use, or at least so I thought. It only affects the immediate target.
Obviously, security guard or not, he is in a position where he requires the taser and a firearm. Judging by the clientele he is putting up with. I see no problem with security personnel using tasers so as long as they are trained and smart about it. The taser did it's job. He was under attack and he had a LOT of patience prior to deploying it. Once the threat was stopped he ceased his action. Also, I am tired of people using the term "mall cop" Mall security are NOT police officers in most situations.
11 new posts and none of them are fighting And to think the thread might have been somewhat active for once "aaaaaa" SMACK [video=youtube;0Z-OGxoLniM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z-OGxoLniM[/video]
[QUOTE=HkSniper;39411221]Obviously, security guard or not, he is in a position where he requires the taser and a firearm. Judging by the clientele he is putting up with. I see no problem with security personnel using tasers so as long as they are trained and smart about it. The taser did it's job. He was under attack and he had a LOT of patience prior to deploying it. Once the threat was stopped he ceased his action. Also, I am tired of people using the term "mall cop" Mall security are NOT police officers in most situations.[/QUOTE] That's my point, this guy seems like no police officer, ergo not even able to put someone into custody most of the time. A taser just doesn't do the job, what does he do if she keeps coming after the first shock? Most people are going to if they really had any intent of harming you in the first place, a taser is a temporary measure. Also, jsut shocking again is extremely dangerous, especially since you'd basically have to do it till the battery runs dry, not to mention that you'd be liable for torture and whatnot. Even cops would have issues finding the balance here, once again showing that it is a tool to put someone in cuffs and not anything else.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;39411240]That's my point, this guy seems like no police officer, ergo not even able to put someone into custody most of the time. A taser just doesn't do the job, what does he do if she keeps coming after the first shock? Most people are going to if they really had any intent of harming you in the first place, a taser is a temporary measure. Also, jsut shocking again is extremely dangerous, especially since you'd basically have to do it till the battery runs dry, not to mention that you'd be liable for torture and whatnot. Even cops would have issues finding the balance here, once again showing that it is a tool to put someone in cuffs and not anything else.[/QUOTE] There's no "what if..." The Taser did its job successfully, end of story.
Stop with the fucking taser
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;39411550]Stop with the fucking taser[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you talking about? [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] We were having a discussion related to the fucking video. Get off your high horse.
[QUOTE=Apache249;39412258]What the fuck are you talking about? [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] We were having a discussion related to the fucking video. Get off your high horse.[/QUOTE] What high horse You two chuckleheads have derailed the thread
I've done security work before (albeit in England) and having an incident like that unfold it is incredibly easy to be a third party and go "well he shouldn't have done that", but honestly when your the guy everyone is looking at getting pushed around by a woman who then tries to physically harm you, the guy made the right choice in warning her and then using his self-defence equipment. He couldn't have known how far she was going to take it and there were several more people there, he did what he judged to be right in an incredibly stressful situation and I agree with it, he seemed to keep his cool a little better than some people I know as well. Just adding my opinion, I wouldn't say it annoys me when people say things similar like "He shouldn't have used his taser", but I will say put yourself in the situation and think if you would have acted differently. You can easily pick the right option now because you've literally sat and watched the beginning, the action, and the out-come of said action. Try doing that without any of the information.
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;39412358]What high horse You two chuckleheads have derailed the thread[/QUOTE] User have the right to discuss a thread's content and will do so. It's a fucking forum, not a post-your-video-and-get-out website. [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] If people are derailing a thread, you don't complain about it and further derail the thread. [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] You can rate my dumb all you want, but it only makes you look more desperate. My point still stands. If you didn't come here to discuss, you came to the wrong website.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;39399344]boring overrated film ok[/QUOTE] this made me want to watch it tbh
Gran Torino is amazing.
im going to rename the thread to "This Idiot deserved it V2 (Tazer and Gran Torino discussion)"
[QUOTE=Apache249;39412410]User have the right to discuss a thread's content and will do so. It's a fucking forum, not a post-your-video-and-get-out website. [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] If people are derailing a thread, you don't complain about it and further derail the thread. [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] You can rate my dumb all you want, but it only makes you look more desperate. My point still stands. If you didn't come here to discuss, you came to the wrong website.[/QUOTE] No Your point doesn't stand, this isn't a discussion thread this is a video thread in the video section Post videos [video=youtube;L6XjroBmX2I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6XjroBmX2I[/video] about 0:27 Holy fuck why would you even try that
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;39412826]No Your point doesn't stand, this isn't a discussion thread this is a video thread in the video section [/QUOTE] There are only ~200 videos in 750-post thread. My point still stands.
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[QUOTE=SEKCobra;39410467]Using a Taser as self defense weapon is extremely irresponsible. It's only purpose is to make restraining a suspect easier, all Self Defense Marketing and such is pure idiocrazy.[/QUOTE] Would you rather have me plug a .45 in her chest? Beat her in the head with a spring baton? Break her knee perhaps? Or a punch to the face? That would put me at risk of injuring myself.
[QUOTE=Nekrietns;39417355]Would you rather have me plug a .45 in her chest? Beat her in the head with a spring baton? Break her knee perhaps? Or a punch to the face? That would put me at risk of injuring myself.[/QUOTE] What about pepper-spray? That's extremely effective.
[QUOTE=SweetSwifter;39417389]What about pepper-spray? That's extremely effective.[/QUOTE] Pepperspray has the issue that it doesn't always work, for all I know that hoodrat has a resistance to the stuff, it also sprays around a lot and it's likely to get in my eyes, leaving me with a severe disadvantage.
[QUOTE=Asaratha;39419705]Your point does not stand.[/QUOTE] People are discussing the thread's content. How is there even a debate about it? [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] Just like any other thread in this section.
SEKCobra is kind of right. A taser actually is a pretty shitty self defense tool. Even that pretty skinny black woman was up and moving after 5 seconds, like I guess you could tase someone then just run away but then you'd have a pissed as fuck person who is still trying to attack you now chasing you potentially.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;39421388]SEKCobra is kind of right. A taser actually is a pretty shitty self defense tool. Even that pretty skinny black woman was up and moving after 5 seconds, like I guess you could tase someone then just run away but then you'd have a pissed as fuck person who is still trying to attack you now chasing you potentially.[/QUOTE] Apparently we're done talking about the Taser. I'm perfectly fine with that. [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] Emergency content: [video=youtube;mHg9BuNhaBs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHg9BuNhaBs[/video]
jesus christ that audio-carnage after the knockdown
[QUOTE=mrgrim333;39414166][url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1e_1358714075[/url] "I'm the god of *SMACK*"[/QUOTE] Oh my god I lost it at the laugh.
[QUOTE=Apache249;39421576]Apparently we're done talking about the Taser. I'm perfectly fine with that. [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] Emergency content: [video=youtube;mHg9BuNhaBs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHg9BuNhaBs[/video][/QUOTE] look at the white kid the whole video [editline]31st January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Apache249;39412410]User have the right to discuss a thread's content and will do so. It's a fucking forum, not a post-your-video-and-get-out website. [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] If people are derailing a thread, you don't complain about it and further derail the thread. [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] You can rate my dumb all you want, but it only makes you look more desperate. My point still stands. If you didn't come here to discuss, you came to the wrong website.[/QUOTE] wow, ratings effect you so much it's like every little one breaks off a chunk of your ego
[QUOTE=DentalDoctor;39423160] wow, ratings [B]effect[/B] you so much it's like every little one breaks off a chunk of your ego[/QUOTE] Affect* :eng101:
[QUOTE=Apache249;39421576]Apparently we're done talking about the Taser. I'm perfectly fine with that. [editline]30th January 2013[/editline] Emergency content: [video=youtube;mHg9BuNhaBs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHg9BuNhaBs[/video][/QUOTE] haha pink shirt dude is a badass
A while back when i was working in my old bar in lanzarote (which is now gone) . I had a this ignorant little chav walk in with his family, I was dj'ing at the time doing a karaoke night which was all going well until this chav came up to me and said "oi let me fookin sing or ill smash ya face in ye!" I said "later when its your turn to sing" so he punched me in the face and knocked me out cold,the entire bar saw this and all jumped on the fucker, he then proceeded to run away. at which point my mother ran up to him and said "did you just hit my son?" so he punched in the face,stomach and threw her down the stairs,luckily the survived (only just) and the fucker was arrested and sent back to the uk. anyway i got home full of anger at 3am after police interviews so i started to watch youtube videos of people getting there ass kicked to help my anger,i enjoyed then so much i posted them here on facepunch and named the thread "this idiot deserved it" and before i know it you guys all added more and more videos and it became one of my fav facepunch threads..... I had a phone call today saying hes been arrested again and imprisoned for 4 years! moral of the story:Thanks facepunch,your all fucking awesome! That idiot really deserved it!
I hope the idiots who have been trying to break in mine and my neighbor's homes and burning stolen cars near here also get what they deserve. This used to be a quiet place to live.
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