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This is probably a very unpopular opinion but the concept of 'Unlimited Data' plans is the route course of of a lot of congestion, I can't comment on how well Comcast provisions their network but not a single backhaul provider will sell asynchronous bandwith, you must purchase both upstream and downstream capacity in equal portions, this is due to network protocols in this day and age being incapable of managing asynchronous without stressing a routers processor.
The problem the most of the worlds residential service providers will experience is the concept of 'peak' services, everyone wants to jump on and smash the guts out of their connections during peak times because they're paying for a service and wish to use it whenever they want when in reality, signing up to the big boys will get your consumer rights waived, particularly in the form of CSGs (customer service guarantees) meaning that you can't even process a complaint for a breach of contract terms the best you will ever get is maybe a months credit and the freedom to leave your contract.
The cost of backhaul between major sites is not equal so it seems pretty obvious that Comcast has either under provisioned, can't provision further or there isn't enough revenue being generated to justify improving the network. Allowing unlimited plans and the expectation to experience full theoretical peak speeds is a joke, all residential services are supplied of a many to one contention ratio and unless you are being provided a 1:1 service with a service level agreement, good luck, you are literally at the mercy of any other person who decides to smash the guts out of the shared bandwidth across a particular POI or backhaul.
Why would anyone want to share a network with anyone else who can literally take an unequal portion of the capacity for use all the time and slow everything down for everyone else? 'Unlimited' is just a marketing gimmick for you to pay more and effectively get less because you can't even use 'unlimited' data due to contention / congestion. Hell, your 'unlimited' plans probably have a fair use waiver capping you at 1TB anyway.
Find yourselves a quality ISP that provides a quality service, educate yourselves about network logistics so you can make better informed decisions about where you can get the most value for money, I highly doubt Comcast is the only option.[/QUOTE]
I am quoting myself from this thread [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1536960"]here[/URL]
[QUOTE=Brt5470;51187432]If you have their economy plan and use LESS THAN FIVE GB per month, you'll get like $5 off your bill or something insane like that.[/QUOTE]
They probably have bullshit deals for new customers too, instead of loyalty programs for people who have probably used their service for the last 20 years. I hate that.
thank god i don't have comcast anymore or else i wouldn't be able to browse the lmao thread.
[QUOTE=dark_console2;51187433]I am quoting myself from this thread [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1536960"]here[/URL][/QUOTE]
That's great but I live in an apartment complex where my options are satellite (lol), CenturyLink (double lol), or Comcast. They are the only reasonable option that I have available... and there are 400 units in this complex. They have the same choices.
[QUOTE=dark_console2;51187433]I am quoting myself from this thread [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1536960"]here[/URL][/QUOTE]
You must have never lived in the US. In most populated areas you can only pick from a handful of ISPs. There's also a level of jerrymandering with them where one ISP agrees to never touch the area belonging to a competitor ISP.
Louis Rossmann lives in Manhattan and he has to use Time Warner Cable and pays an absurd amount of money for absolute shit. Yet a block or two away is a much better service that will not and can not extend service out.
The business models in place for most major ISPs prevent any kind of competition to happen, thanks to laws and legislation that they've bent to suit their needs.
[QUOTE=Wolverunder;51184674][b][i]"It is important to know that more than 99% of our customers do not use 1 terabyte of data and are not likely to be impacted by this plan, so they can continue to stream, surf, and download without worry."[/i][/b]
If it's a non-issue, then why have they all of a sudden added a data cap? They didn't do it for no reason. What's their angle? Milking droplets out of the 1% who do go over it? I just don't see the rational behind it.
[b][i]"The Terabyte Internet Data Usage Plan provides you with 1 TB (1024 GB) of Internet data usage each month as part of your monthly XFINITY Internet service. If you choose to use more than 1 TB in a month, we will automatically add blocks of 50 GB to your account for an additional fee of $10 each."[/i][/b]
TEN DOLLARS for fifty fucking gigs? I don't have Comcast, but this still makes me fucking mad.[/QUOTE]
You think that's extortionate?
[i]OH BOY[/i] wait till you deal with Satellite ISP's where they'll charge you $130 for 20gb's for A MONTH. [b]This is what I have to deal with.[/b] Oh and between the hours of 2am and 8am, you have 50gb's to work with. But in the big picture this means:
No Streaming. Ever.
No online games. Ever.
No fun group chats or Skype. Unless you want to see the DL limit vanish before your eyes.
[QUOTE=ThePanther;51185372]You download 1TB of data in a few days? Regularly?[/QUOTE]
Welp yeah, back when my desktop computer worked I'd pull around 200 gig a day on just streaming, gaming, and seeding obscure torrents.
That's just my PC too, this place sometimes handle hundreds of different devices at once when it's all rented out.
On the common connection here, you'd be able to pull like 30 gig an hour, and that's the freedom America needs to learn.
Just because the average person doesn't reach the 1TB mark, doesn't justify setting a limit for everyone that does.
Decided to check my usage just as reference:
[T]http://i.imgur.com/BUNHfey.png[/T]
This is just one machine in a household of 4.
I can already see into the future..
[b]"What can you do with 500GB of data?"[/b]
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;51186955]Want to send my congratulations out to Comcast, as they continue their downward spiral.
[media]https://twitter.com/ReportOutage/status/785744799454339072[/media]
[media]https://twitter.com/ReportOutage/status/785740256847007744[/media]
Huge outage reports for both TV and internet service across the US, with hotspots on the West coast.[/QUOTE]
I'm not gonna be surprised if their infrastructure is being targeted for a DDoS attack because of the 1TB cap.
Fuck my 30 GB
[QUOTE=Wickerman123;51185506]Bitch please.
[img]https://puu.sh/rEKjO/0ccfd06d12.png[/img]
2048kb/s per 20 people. Meaning that on a good day, you can maybe get 200kb/s up/down.[/QUOTE]
Forgot to ad that if you go over the limit, it costs an extra £1.20 per gigabyte for an extension.
This is what happens when people wank each other off to the idea of no government intervention in businesses instead of an actually competitive market. Ideally, a company would form that would offer more sensible and modern internet service, and everyone would flock to it and companies like Comcast would be forced to reform or die. But in the ISP industry, the barriers to entry are enormous, and most consumers don't have the luxury of choosing what company they get their internet from, while internet is now a necessity for modern living.
Well, this is also what happens when you have that sick lobby money, but I think that goes along with the idea of wanking each other off about no government invention.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;51192370]This is what happens when people wank each other off to the idea of no government intervention in businesses instead of an actually competitive market. Ideally, a company would form that would offer more sensible and modern internet service, and everyone would flock to it and companies like Comcast would be forced to reform or die. But in the ISP industry, the barriers to entry are enormous, and most consumers don't have the luxury of choosing what company they get their internet from, while internet is now a necessity for modern living.
Well, this is also what happens when you have that sick lobby money, but I think that goes along with the idea of wanking each other off about no government invention.[/QUOTE]
Government intervention needs to happen at the slightest hint of back-room deals and other kind of suspicious decisions (like price fixing and market division) that seems to be made purely to fleece customers.
In Canada we have extortionate prices for internet that never reaches even half the speed it's advertised at during typical hours, and data caps at tiny fractions of this, it's great
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