A kid donates and thanks a streamer for helping him get through depression. Said streamer then insul
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Some of the people in this thread amaze me
how do you even understand how to use a keyboard?
"Hey guys, depression is just something with a negative attitude and bad mood, they can choose to be better!"
This thread.
[QUOTE=The bird Man;50180484]"Hey guys, depression is just something with a negative attitude and bad mood, they can choose to be better!"
This thread.[/QUOTE]
There are various types of depression, caused by different things. One of them is "negative attitude and bad mood" which can be fixed by going to a therapist and with no meds. This kind of depression often boils down to feeling worthless and hopeless to such a degree that can cause suicidal tendencies.
"bad mood" is a very simplified saying but it's not entirely incorrect. Mental depression is negative emotions amplified to a degree where one can often feel "empty". And as a matter of fact, people who have this kind [b]can[/b] choose to be better, that's exactly why many who go to therapist willingly to get help get better. Because they chose to get better and they took steps to achieve it and managed to get better due to that.
The other kind is chemical depression which is related to chemical imbalance which requires either meds or change in diet as well as therapy. Some can only be reduced through meds and are incurable.
Many people fall into mental depression due to their circumstances like death of a loved one or poverty and other such events. These can totally be treated as long as the person themselves or someone they know encourages them to get help.
It's weird how you criticize this thread and yet seem to have little understand yourself?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50176805]As a person who's suffered through serious depression, I can't agree more.
I've had times where I'm at my lowest, truly ready to give up, but I was ashamed of being sad, of being depressed, and I was afraid of letting people know, so I acted the exact opposite and was fine and happy on the outside. I never understood the people who wear it on their sleeves for attention. They aren't going through what I went through.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I suffered serious depression myself, and still on occasion fall back down to that point. And nothing infuriates me more than people with the mentality of "Get over it" or "You've nothing to be depressed about." and so forth like that. The only people who truly understand depression and anxiety are the people who have ACTUALLY suffered with it. I mean the crippling, life changing kind where it changes your entire personality and mental capacity for the worse.
So many people in this thread that honestly make me wonder how they can sit and think that depression is just a "Mindset" sort of deal. It isn't, and never has been, ignoring the people who flaunt their "Depression" because that isn't real in a sense. I mean true depression is literally something that cannot be chosen, it is an imbalance within your brain chemical wise being the trigger, it forces your brain to work differently. In ways that make no sense. Each person shares some common traits but due to the complexity of the human brain, it also gives each person a different trait in regards of it also.
You cannot see logic, or sense. You have inane rambling thoughts, you feel your worthless and wasting oxygen and space. You feel hopeless and generally like a failure, you feel like you are scum. A waste of a human being who would not be missed after you left the mortal plane because people simply just smile to keep up the appearance to appease you to avoid conflict. Yet deep down wouldn't give two fucks.
That is how I felt anyway, and sometimes still do. But to everyone in this thread that thinks depression is a "Phase" or a "Mindset" or similar, please kindly go educate yourselves on the matter of Mental Illness. It is NOT to be taken lightly, and is NOT to be belittled about or used as an excuse to condescend to someone. People who seriously suffer with mental illness are...fragile is the wrong word, scattered perhaps, most of them fighting constantly day to day 24/7 to try and keep it going. To find a purpose to stick around inbetween every other reason their mind tells them they shouldn't.
These people need support and love and help. Sometimes small gestures can make massive changes.
[QUOTE=ChronoBlade;50180130]Why in honest fuck are some people on this thread trying to delude themselves that depression is easy as fuck to fix?[/QUOTE]
There's still a lot of people who thinks that suffering from depression is just like feeling down, or like having a cold.
"Everyone is depressed, everyone gets anxiety, get the fuck over it!"
wow i never thought of it like that. "get the fuck over it." i feel so much better already! i can interact with people again and go into large crowds without getting a panic attack again!
[QUOTE=Tobin;50211074]"Everyone is depressed, everyone gets anxiety, get the fuck over it!"
wow i never thought of it like that. "get the fuck over it." i feel so much better already! i can interact with people again and go into large crowds without getting a panic attack again![/QUOTE]
Psychiatrists hate him!!
he/she just wanted to say thank you :(
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;50179916]I hate the suicide is selfish argument
"Yeah you're absolutely miserable to such a crippling degree that you want to commit suicide, but what about how I'D feel? You're selfish!"
like do people who spout this just lack any self awareness about how [I]actually[/I] selfish they're being[/QUOTE]
I think when people mean to say it, they mean afterwards, the sucidial person isnt being selfish at least in their own mind for killing themselves, I wouldnt blame a sucidical person for being selfish, but at the end of the day it can be very selfish.
What if you are suicidal but do have a lot of close friends/family? What ABOUT them?
What about whoever has to find your body, the people involved with the police, the funeral people, etc... What if it was like your own mother who had to find your lifeless corpse just hanging by some rope or next to a bunch of pills foaming at the mouth?
I honestly fail to see how it cant be selfish in a lot of ways, its just that calling a suicidal person selfish is completely missing the point because its not being done out of any selfishness or spite, its just after the fact, them killing themselves and having others, maybe even those who cared about them, having to find their dead body and deal/live with it is actually selfish.
You know, a suicidal person could easily see themselves as actually being selfish and end up stopping because of that, just for reasons I listed.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;50212385]I think when people mean to say it, they mean afterwards, the sucidial person isnt being selfish at least in their own mind for killing themselves, I wouldnt blame a sucidical person for being selfish, but at the end of the day it can be very selfish.
What if you are suicidal but do have a lot of close friends/family? What ABOUT them?
What about whoever has to find your body, the people involved with the police, the funeral people, etc... What if it was like your own mother who had to find your lifeless corpse just hanging by some rope or next to a bunch of pills foaming at the mouth?
I honestly fail to see how it cant be selfish in a lot of ways, its just that calling a suicidal person selfish is completely missing the point because its not being done out of any selfishness or spite, its just after the fact, them killing themselves and having others, maybe even those who cared about them, having to find their dead body and deal/live with it is actually selfish.
You know, a suicidal person could easily see themselves as actually being selfish and end up stopping because of that, just for reasons I listed.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but it's fucking worthless to tell a depressed person that. Literally of no value.
When you're honestly depressed, you already think the lowest of yourself, you already think you're a selfish shit who can't help feeling this sad, you already think you're causing other people suffering on a daily basis. When you're depressed, you look at your loving friends and family, and you're sad that they're there. You don't want to hurt them. You don't want them to feel terrible. You can't help how you feel, you're at fault for how they feel now too! And that's not helping people with depression.
I tried killing myself to give those people an out. I tried doing it so the loved ones who care so deeply about me wouldn't have to live a lifetime with MY depression. I'm already going to live a life time with it, why should my friends and family be forced to bear my burden?
The whole concept of selfishness in relation to suicide is one of the dumbest things anyone ever thought up. it's meaningless and has no value on the conversation. Of course it's selfish, almost all of us almost always act in an almost entirely selfish way. Is anyone really surprised that a depressed person is going to be selfish? Does anyone really think that's a revelation?
The more I read from people who haven't suffered through depression, the more I want to expand on the subject for them.
I could honestly write a book about depression after having been through this for my entire sentient life.
Experts say best way to get over depression is to "just get over it"
In related news, best method of overcoming poverty is to "get rich"
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50215586]Yeah but it's fucking worthless to tell a depressed person that. Literally of no value.
When you're honestly depressed, you already think the lowest of yourself, you already think you're a selfish shit who can't help feeling this sad, you already think you're causing other people suffering on a daily basis. When you're depressed, you look at your loving friends and family, and you're sad that they're there. You don't want to hurt them. You don't want them to feel terrible. You can't help how you feel, you're at fault for how they feel now too! And that's not helping people with depression.
I tried killing myself to give those people an out. I tried doing it so the loved ones who care so deeply about me wouldn't have to live a lifetime with MY depression. I'm already going to live a life time with it, why should my friends and family be forced to bear my burden?
The whole concept of selfishness in relation to suicide is one of the dumbest things anyone ever thought up. it's meaningless and has no value on the conversation. Of course it's selfish, almost all of us almost always act in an almost entirely selfish way. Is anyone really surprised that a depressed person is going to be selfish? Does anyone really think that's a revelation?
The more I read from people who haven't suffered through depression, the more I want to expand on the subject for them.
I could honestly write a book about depression after having been through this for my entire sentient life.[/QUOTE]
No I get that, I really do, it is useless and the way you put it is generally how it would be for most. Its hard to really put into words because im trying to say the suicidal or depressed person ISNT selfish themselves at all, but after its done, it ends up being selfish but even then I wouldnt ever label a suicidal person as selfish even afterwards.
That said, any suicidal person who TAKES others lives with them, like someone in a car rampage or something, then id say are very selfish, but at that point im sure theirs more to it.
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