• Don't Play "SUPERHOT"
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Just played Superhot because of this review and enjoyed it thoroughly. All a matter of opinion, I suppose.
The video is very opinionated and is only looking for views, that's it. There's no real reason to watch this other than to make fun of it.
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42250901]I really do get annoyed with those people who use opinions in reviews. What the heck is the deal with that![/QUOTE] Reviews are objective. A proper one gives the facts and lets the viewer make the conclusions with some personal opinion to add flavor to the review but not to be the USP of it. This video makes a conclusion and expects the viewer to blindly accept the frankly rubbish pseudo-facts it presents. Facts which, in all honesty, are based on misinformation and willful ignorance.
[QUOTE=pawnstick]I really do get annoyed with those people who use opinions in reviews. What the heck is the deal with that![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=EcksDee]Facts which, in all honesty, are based on misinformation and willful ignorance.[/QUOTE] He isn't speaking out his opinion, he's actually saying "This is a bad game and we'll all be unlucky if it's released", it's not the same as "I think this is a bad concept and the game mechanics should be improved to improve the experience." He's plainly saying it's bad without knowing anything about it, or even how game development works.
not to mention the title of the video is literally "Don't Play: Superhot" (hint that's not what you name an opinion piece) and the colon suggests that this is a video series of indie game "reviews" that this man considers not worth anyone's time which is the most scumbag thing I've heard of
this guy is a fucking whiny sack of shit jesus christ it's not even a fucking review it's just him hating on something for stupid reasons what a fucking douche
[QUOTE=latin_geek;42250964]not to mention the title of the video is literally "Don't Play: Superhot" (hint that's not what you name an opinion piece) and the colon suggests that this is a video series of indie game "reviews" that this man considers not worth anyone's time which is the most scumbag thing I've heard of[/QUOTE] a scumbag thing is something actually morally reprehensible, not some dude on the internet having different opinions about indie games than you
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42250972]a scumbag thing is something actually morally reprehensible, not some dude on the internet having different opinions about indie games than you[/QUOTE] stop trying to justify your shitty fucking "review" had to add quotes calling this a review is like saying a wall is actually the ocean
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;42250977]stop trying to justify your shitty fucking review[/QUOTE] it ain't my review, so please stop thinking it is
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42250972]a scumbag thing is something actually morally reprehensible, not some dude on the internet having different opinions about indie games than you[/QUOTE] I know this is usually a start of a shitstorm but, for example, TotalBiscuit acknowledges that his videos are his opinions, not reviews and sometimes they can be biased by blindly liking/hating a game just because he does/doesn't enjoy playing it. But he knows it and everyone is like that. This guy is straight out bullshit. His opinion is biased as fuck.
School Shooter World Tour 2012 looked better than this step it up pawnstick [editline]20th September 2013[/editline] is that even what it was called i cant remember anymore
[QUOTE=bepassley;42250999]School Shooter World Tour 2012 looked better than this step it up pawnstick [editline]20th September 2013[/editline] is that even what it was called i cant remember anymore[/QUOTE] school shooter: north american tour 2013 and yes it did, and I made it in about a month
Yo, I watched this video and me being "some guy on the internet" I feel like I'm as qualified to say that the game looks lame.
What I'm confused about is he called it too easy but had numerous clips of him dying? I mean fuck I died a lot even with time stopping, granted I'm shit at games, when he "proved" how easy it was it looked rehearsed just to reinforce that point. If you're going to put more effort into undermining a gameplay element than you would by just playing it normally that doesn't prove anything. You can can do the same with lots of games. Doesn't suddenly make them bad.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42250994]I know this is usually a start of a shitstorm but, for example, TotalBiscuit acknowledges that his videos are his opinions, not reviews and sometimes they can be biased by blindly liking/hating a game just because he does/doesn't enjoy playing it. But he knows it and everyone is like that. This guy is straight out bullshit. His opinion is biased as fuck.[/QUOTE] when the fuck does some guy making videos on the internet need to be held to the same standards as a "games journalist"? look, I get it, for some reason everybody is required by law to like these "barely a game" games like gone home and dear esther and fez but fuck, just come out straight and say it.
people think this is pawnstick's video. why.
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42251024]when the fuck does some guy making videos on the internet need to be held to the same standards as a "games journalist"? look, I get it, for some reason everybody is required by law to like these "barely a game" games like gone home and dear esther and fez but fuck, just come out straight and say it.[/QUOTE] but those aren't games they're shitty novellas with graphics super hot is an example of an FPS with unique time manipulation if you're comparing SH to Gone Home then you have serious problems the dude's video description is literally just hating it because it's popular and he's asking if he should do more fuck this guy
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42250770]It's like I'm some sort of subscriber to the channel, so I would know when he puts out a new video. No, it's obviously my video.[/QUOTE] You're part of the group. So it kinda [I]is[/I] your video.
[QUOTE=noneshallpass;42251027]people think this is pawnstick's video. why.[/QUOTE] It's not his but it is his friend's
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42251024]when the fuck does some guy making videos on the internet need to be held to the same standards as a "games journalist"? look, I get it, for some reason everybody is required by law to like these "barely a game" games like gone home and dear esther and fez but fuck, just come out straight and say it.[/QUOTE] Calm yourself and think. I'm not comparing this "Youtuber" to a "Games Journalist" like TB, if I'm comparing anything, it's the difference in opinions and how discussions can work out a conclusion. This is a concept to a game mechanic, you aren't by law forced to like them or indie games in general but just stating that a game(THAT'S NOT EVEN A FULL GAME RELEASE, CLOSED BETA OR ALPHA) is bad without the knowledge of how a game is developed is pretty biased and misinformed.
Complaining about a proof of concept game is a fucking waste of time, especially when you don't have any valid complaints.
superhot will be a good fun game, who fucking cares if the demo doesnt look perfect
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42251006]school shooter: north american tour 2013 and yes it did, and I made it in about a month[/QUOTE] While it did require your creative vision, you made a mod using assets from Half-Life 2 in roughly three times the length they had. Of course your product would have more polish. You're using AAA assets and three times the time they had. They made a game in 168 hours with I'm assuming no outside assets. The fact of that matter is SuperHot really isn't that artsy, really isn't that technically incompetent, and was democratically elected onto Greenlight with press coverage for it seeming to come completely organically. I guess I'm just confused why anyone would pick apart a seven day proof of concept so savagely. Why spend the 8 minutes on a game that only takes 5 to complete when you can sum it up as "SuperHot ultimately could use more varied music, a stronger use of it's core mechanics, and a less minimalist artstyle?" Of all the games to run a smear campaign against, this really just seems poorly placed, pedantic, and condescending towards fellow content creators, which we really don't need anymore of.
[quote]So, because an indie game is pretentious, don't play it? I played the demo, it was neat. They'll need to keep things interesting when the full version comes out or else it'll get stale quick. Yeah, the guy in the video does mention that he understands it's a demo version. But his main complaint is an objective one. "Game is easy, gun clips through shit." It's in beta. It's like he's kicking a blind, retarded puppy, and complaining that it isn't fighting back[/quote]
I hate how he mentions that "we" would be unlucky if this game gets financial help and inspires other indie games with similiar graphics or retro style graphics. I'd rather play an original indie game with interesting game mechanics and art than your shitty generic modern war fps or third person view rpg with a story that does nothing but say "Follow the leads to the bad guys and kill them". It's pretty closed minded thinking hating indie games or different styles "just because" without any evidence backing it up.
[QUOTE=HoliestCow;42250703]This guy is basically just saying how bad Super Hot is, even though he acknowledged it was a 7 day challenge and was a small indie team. What an idiot. Thanks for pointing out that the game made in 7 days by an independent team didnt have tessellation or ambient occlusion or high res textures.[/QUOTE] But it has ambient occlusion.
The Dinner Dates, thank god for youtube block extentions [QUOTE=endorphinsam;42250894]lol even though the guy is an idiot that is a fucking retarded counter argument. HL2 is done, and they still constantly release bug fixes. this game however is unfinished and has a lot of bugs.[/QUOTE] gee I wonder why they have to constantly release bug fixes for a 9 year old game HL2 has lots of bugs, EVEN THOUGH it was by a huge team and was finished 9 years ago. So just imagine what Super hot is like for these devs. you literally agree'd with the dude and still rated him dumb and seemed to miss the point that is exactly what you just said, which he just said. [QUOTE=EcksDee;42250922]Reviews are objective. A proper one gives the facts and lets the viewer make the conclusions with some personal opinion to add flavor to the review but not to be the USP of it. This video makes a conclusion and expects the viewer to blindly accept the frankly rubbish pseudo-facts it presents. Facts which, in all honesty, are based on misinformation and willful ignorance.[/QUOTE] In my opinion many games are horribly shit but I wouldn't totally fuck the review up just because I don't like it. A really well made concept in a shit game is what makes a shit game a really good game. This is why Super hot is good. But a really good concept can still fail in a shit game. See Fez. This guy is just spewing Best Gamers level ignorance, but he's doing it [U]SERIOUSLY[/U]. Which makes him a giant douche. [QUOTE=Venezuelan;42251022]What I'm confused about is he called it too easy but had numerous clips of him dying? I mean fuck I died a lot even with time stopping, granted I'm shit at games, when he "proved" how easy it was it looked rehearsed just to reinforce that point. If you're going to put more effort into undermining a gameplay element than you would by just playing it normally that doesn't prove anything. You can can do the same with lots of games. Doesn't suddenly make them bad.[/QUOTE] this gives me the idea of taking huge and very well made/sold games and just bashing on them as a joke except TBG already did it so yeah. You can make even the most amazing game look like shit. [QUOTE=Pawnstick;42251024]when the fuck does some guy making videos on the internet need to be held to the same standards as a "games journalist"? look, I get it, for some reason everybody is required by law to like these "barely a game" games like gone home and dear esther and fez but fuck, just come out straight and say it.[/QUOTE] I'm going to be perfectly honest and try to sound as kind as possible. Game journalists are fucking idiots and in no way should anyone try to model themselves over that level of so called "Professionalism" But you should still be as professional, open minded and as intelligent as possible, don't be an opinionated prick. Just review a game in a relaxing state. Actually think. Really think about what you say. (in fact, maybe even more professional than these majority of "journalists" who are paid to spew shitty reviews) No one is "Required" to like them and no one here has ever said anything like that. But Dear Esther and gone home and fez are still "Games enough" (THE FIRST TWO AREN'T MEANT TO HAVE ACTUAL GAMEPLAY, they're meant to be STORIES. This is why people who by Dear Esther for the GAMEPLAY are being stupid, that's not the point of the 'game'). That being said, its very very unfair to compare those to a game that is so obviously meant to be a concept. It's not meant to be ANYTHING MORE than an example of a concept. That's all. This isn't at all meant to be a full game, there is meant to be no story, no nothing. It's literally purely only a test. You can dislike this concept, but you have to dislike it and actually be INTELLIGENT about it. I thought Super Hot was cool but, it seemed very boring AS IT STANDS NOW, and needs a very large amount of work. The way he reviews it is seriously the most immature shit I've seen this week. He doesn't think at all. He's literally just poorly improvising hate and doesn't even do it slightly good. Then there's you. You seem to be pretty stuck up about it, and it comes off as pretty immature. I don't think I like the attitude you give other people either. I feel pretty sad that you can't realize that he's a dick. I don't know you personally but I doubt you are this bad of a poster so please just try and understand what others are saying. Not to sound dramatic or anything :v: [QUOTE=Pawnstick;42250972]a scumbag thing is something actually morally reprehensible, not some dude on the internet having different opinions about indie games than you[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI"]difference between him (the reviewer) and other people is that he's a dick about it.[/URL]
The fuck? If he wants to talk about an indie game with pretentiousness he should be reviewing Binding of Isaac. All of the stuff he misinterprets as pretension in this game isn't some kind of fucking social message, its just there for the heck of it.
I enjoyed playing SUPERHOT fairly. I mean fuck isn't that what counts? ENJOYING YOURSELF? [editline]20th September 2013[/editline] don't tell me what to do video
He's just going against popular opinion to get views, nothing to see here [editline]20th September 2013[/editline] the title being 'don't play' is pretty obnoxious too
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