[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;35415614]It's not that I personally didn't like it, it's that I was lied to game after game in order to give me a reason to keep buying them.
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So why did you keep buying them?
[QUOTE=Glorbo;35415686]So why did you keep buying them?[/QUOTE]
To continue the story of the game.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;35415666]I was basically getting at B, but yeah they're all valid lies that increased my hype for the game. The ONLY reason I bought ME3 was because they said that my choices would matter, the one and only.[/QUOTE]
Your choices did affect the ending. Whether they affected the ending in a way that satisfied you is another story. Obviously they didn't.
Entertainment is subjective. They're not breaking the law because the ending wasn't what you wanted it to be. This is the sense of entitlement that Mega64 just parodied
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;35415695]To continue the story of the game.[/QUOTE]
You could have watched it on youtube. Or see it on wikipedia. Or read it in the Mass Effect wiki.
What boggles me is that you knew you were gonna get lied to, you knew that the ending would probably not be that satisfying, and yet you still bought it [b]Even after you knew that Bioware won't deliver.[/b]
[QUOTE=rilez;35415712]Your choices did affect the ending. Whether they affected the ending in a way that satisfied you is another story. Obviously they didn't.
Entertainment is subjective. They're not breaking the law because the ending wasn't what you wanted it to be. This is the sense of entitlement that Mega64 just parodied[/QUOTE]
They didn't change a damn thing.
[editline]3rd April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Glorbo;35415722]You could have watched it on youtube. Or see it on wikipedia. Or read it in the Mass Effect wiki.
What boggles me is that you knew you were gonna get lied to, you knew that the ending would probably not be that satisfying, and yet you still bought it [b]Even after you knew that Bioware won't deliver.[/b][/QUOTE]
First of all, none of that is the same and you know it, don't play dumb. Secondly, exactly how the hell did I know I was going to get lied to?
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;35415727]They didn't change a damn thing.[/QUOTE]
um yes they did, just not how you wanted them to
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;35415727]They didn't change a damn thing.[/QUOTE]
I've watched all the endings on YouTube, they're all different. They're all influenced by choices you make.
[QUOTE=rilez;35415754]I've watched all the endings on YouTube, they're all different. They're all influenced by choices you make.[/QUOTE]
The 3 different endings are only influenced by what choice you make right before the ending actually occurs, each of which have no relation to any of the choices from the previous 2 games or earlier in ME3.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;35415521]You paid 60 dollars.
60. Dollars. Jesus.
Sure, you have the right to have good entertainment. Sure, you have the right to express that opinion, you're fully entitled to it. And you know how you protest that opinion in the open market? [b]You don't buy the next game.[/b] That's it.
"Bioware promised me a pony for Christmas and they didn't bring it! This is the worst Christmas [B]EVER![/B]"
Grow the fuck up.[/QUOTE]
>end of the trilogy
>don't buy the next game
and how does any of that address the horrible fucking ending
oh boo hoo! entitled! No, people are pissed because it's the end of a goddamn trilogy and a work of art, and the ending is so just plain bad that it shits on the rest of the series and disregards almost everything you've done, in a game where choice is paramount.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;35415789]The 3 different endings are only influenced by what choice you make right before the ending actually occurs, each of which have no relation to any of the choices from the previous 2 games or earlier in ME3.[/QUOTE]
damn maybe you should sue them for doing that... lol!
[QUOTE=dumbidiotretard;35415802]damn maybe you should sue them for doing that... lol![/QUOTE]
I don't see why suing them for breaking the law is a bad thing?
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;35415798]>end of the trilogy
>don't buy the next game
and how does any of that address the horrible fucking ending
oh boo hoo! entitled! No, people are pissed because it's the end of a goddamn trilogy and a work of art, and the ending is so just plain bad that it shits on the rest of the series and disregards almost everything you've done, in a game where choice is paramount.[/QUOTE]
hey i tried to get them to change the ending to halo 3 and that didnt work out you mass effect fans are no special snowflakes...
[editline]3rd April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;35415813]I don't see why suing them for breaking the law is a bad thing?[/QUOTE]
*giggling at you*
[QUOTE=rilez;35415754]I've watched all the endings on YouTube, they're all different. They're all influenced by choices you make.[/QUOTE]
Red, green, or blue. The changes are so minute and the consequences so poorly presented (especially with the giant plotholes) that the ending boils down to what you do on principle, in that moment. Everything you've done prior stops dead, and only your knowledge of the universe make seven the slightest bit of difference. Thanks to the scene's nature, we have no idea what we're even doing.
Is Starchild lying? What exactly is going on? Why is [I]Normandy[/I] in FTL? Why the hell is it that we only have three options, all of them horrible? If the relays are going to get blown up and such shittiness will ensue anyway, why not just let the fleets duke it out and see how it goes, especially if you've got the EMS? There's so many points left unattended. The ending doesn't rely on any of them, it creates its own scenario.
And fucking Stargazer was the corniest moment in any video game, and I mean that in as critical a way as possible.
[QUOTE=dumbidiotretard;35415815]*giggling at you*[/QUOTE]
"I'm going to completely disregard everything you say in a desperate attempt to not admit I'm wrong."
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;35415844]"I'm going to completely disregard everything you say in a desperate attempt to not admit I'm wrong."[/QUOTE]
more like that post was so fucking stupid i can't form an actual reply to it other than literally laughing at you
do you think that mass effect 3 was the first thing to ever disappoint people by not being what they expected?
[QUOTE=dumbidiotretard;35415815]hey i tried to get them to change the ending to halo 3 and that didnt work out you mass effect fans are no special snowflakes...
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halo 3 had a valid ending with closure and no promise of campaign DLC after it
people were satisfied with it as a majority
and you can't really compare a linear FPS with the same plotline for every player as you would an open, free-choice, player-influenced game like ME
[QUOTE=dumbidiotretard;35415857]more like that post was so fucking stupid i can't form an actual reply to it other than literally laughing at you[/QUOTE]
Thanks for being so specific so I know what you're talking about, you're excellent at this.
[QUOTE=rilez;35415754]I've watched all the endings on YouTube, they're all different. They're all influenced by choices you make.[/QUOTE]
I agree, man. People don't appreciate the true complexity involved in deciding what color the explosions should be. Should they be green? Should they be red? Each possibility has it's own risks and rewards that have to be weighed very carefully. For instance, red is a cool color, but there's a lot of red lights in game, so you risk making the screen look washed out. I think we should all applaud Bioware for giving us a game so thought provoking, so willing to "go there" to make us consider the consequences of our actions.
oh man check out this giant circle jerk. holy shit I can't believe it turned into an argument within the first 4 posts.
[QUOTE=rilez;35415754]I've watched all the endings on YouTube, they're all different. They're all influenced by choices you make.[/QUOTE]
play the damn game.
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;35415895]I agree, man. People don't appreciate the true complexity involved in deciding what color the explosions should be. Should they be green? Should they be red? Each possibility has it's own risks and rewards that have to be weighed very carefully. For instance, red is a cool color, but there's a lot of red lights in game, so you risk making the screen look washed out. I think we should all applaud Bioware for giving us a game so thought provoking, so willing to "go there" to make us consider the consequences of our actions.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say they were incredibly varied or thought provoking, I said they were all different. You can't claim from a legal standpoint that they're the same
Thanks for the incredibly sarcastic reply though
[QUOTE=rilez;35416067]I didn't say they were incredibly varied or thought provoking, I said they were all different. You can't claim from a legal standpoint that they're the same
Thanks for the incredibly sarcastic reply though[/QUOTE]
What are you, Bioware's lawyer?
Just cut the shit. They were the same damn endings, beat for beat. Hell, if they were in black and white then it might actually make it difficult to tell the difference.
I know the legal thing is total bullshit because "artist vision" and whatever the fuck, but on some level we all have to agree that the endings were damn close to identical.
[QUOTE=Laferio;35415946]
play the damn game.[/QUOTE]
how can you guys bitch about this game's endings like the game is the worst game ever made and then tell SOMEBODY to "play the damn game" he clearly watched the endings since that's all everyone bitches about. Do you want to make them suffer or not? because clearly he'd have to buy the game to play it and then they'd make money. Get your act together 1/10
[QUOTE=dumbidiotretard;35416196]how can you guys bitch about this game's endings like the game is the worst game ever made and then tell SOMEBODY to "play the damn game" he clearly watched the endings since that's all everyone bitches about. Do you want to make them suffer or not? because clearly he'd have to buy the game to play it and then they'd make money. Get your act together 1/10[/QUOTE]
and when did I anywhere in any sentence say that mass effect's ending was the worst of all historys history.
I didn't. you came with up a whatever the hell conclusion over 4 words. congratulations.
[QUOTE=Laferio;35416239]and when did I anywhere in any sentence say that mass effect's ending was the worst of all historys history.
I didn't. you came with up a whatever the hell conclusion over 4 words. congratulations.[/QUOTE]
while you may not be part of the idoitic mass it was indeed the conclusion I saw coming from rilez's post. I apologize if you were offended please don't sue me !
[QUOTE=dumbidiotretard;35416259]while you may not be part of the idoitic mass it was indeed the conclusion I saw coming from rilez's post. I apologize if you were offended please don't sue me ![/QUOTE]
its all good i wont sue you xoxo hugs
[QUOTE=rilez;35416067]I didn't say they were incredibly varied or thought provoking, I said they were all different. You can't claim from a legal standpoint that they're the same
Thanks for the incredibly sarcastic reply though[/QUOTE]
You know what people wanted were consequences. Saying they were legally different totally misses the point.
You're totally welcome, broseph.
Mass Effect 3's ending is like Highlander 2.
Not the worst thing in the world, but it seems that way when compared to the awesome thing that came before it.
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;35416308]You know what people wanted were consequences. Saying they were legally different totally misses the point.[/QUOTE]
I guess I'll never understand "the point" then. First "the point" was BioWare deserved to be sued for breaking the law. I bring up the fact they weren't breaking the law. Now "the point" is that people are disappointed there were no consequences. Or that the endings weren't different enough. Or that the endings didn't do this, or that.
If "the point" changes every time someone new enters the conversation then what's "the point" of discussing it. I don't see one. All I can see is Derrick waiting for his trophy.
[QUOTE=rilez;35416388]I guess I'll never understand "the point" then. First "the point" was BioWare deserved to be sued for breaking the law. I bring up the fact they weren't breaking the law. Now "the point" is that people are disappointed there were no consequences. Or that the endings weren't different enough. Or that the endings didn't do this, or that.
If "the point" changes every time someone new enters the conversation then what's "the point" of discussing it. I don't see one. All I can see is Derrick waiting for his trophy.[/QUOTE]
sigh* rilez you dont get the point
the point is that mega64 missed the point we arent entitled we just want the ending changed because lol the ending sucked! also the point is that bioware deserve to be sued for false advertisement sigh you will never get it.. we are all the point..
you must become one of us and become the point
If you can call the Better Business Bureau on Mass Effect 3 not living up to it's promises, you can call the Better Business Bureau on literally anyone who's made a claim through interviews, trailers and other advertisements. No one is going to advertise a bad product or even show flaws in a genuinely good product.
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