[QUOTE=Atlascore;42138851]Have you even played the game?[/QUOTE]
I've been posting screenshots in the mega-thread daily?
[editline]9th September 2013[/editline]
Also, my computer isn't anything special and "6 minutes" in between turns is nothing like what I've experienced.
Oh please -- at worst you're accusing me of having an equally narrow perspective as the people who are throwing a tantrum about this. In the end it's a fundamentally great game with a consistent developer who will undoubtedly have set a pipeline to address bugs people are flipping out about. To be crystal clear: I'm not denying that it's got some issues right now or that they're affecting you. It's the fucking febrile, psychotic freakouts and funereal seriousness with which people are taking this. It's just a game.
Some shitlords are filing a class action against CA over this, for example.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;42137267]This is the experience of a single person, mind you. Look in the thread and you'll find many people who aren't dealing with such serious issues.[/QUOTE]
Try not letting facepunch adjust your views toward this game. Anywhere else you go on the internet dealing with Total War will be angry about the game problem's. Facepunch and strategy games don't mix together well when it comes to understanding the game.
The game is great when it works
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;42139486]Try not letting facepunch adjust your views toward this game. Anywhere else you go on the internet dealing with Total War will be angry about the game problem's. Facepunch and strategy games don't mix together well when it comes to understanding the game.[/QUOTE]
Uh, Facepunch likes strategy games just as much as any other general games forum.
I just think most people on here don't experience the severe issues/freak out.
Its really not that bad of a launch compared to empire's.
I'm wondering when CA is going to lie and say "Sorry we accidentally printed and uploaded the early beta version"
[QUOTE=TheTalon;42139635]I'm wondering when CA is going to lie and say "Sorry we accidentally printed and uploaded the early beta version"[/QUOTE]
They have already admitted the issues and have apologized.
[QUOTE=Tudd;42139628]Uh, Facepunch likes strategy games just as much as any other general games forum.
I just think most people on here don't experience the severe issues/freak out.
Its really not that bad of a launch compared to empire's.[/QUOTE]
They like it but they don't understand it. Most people who play these games can't begin to think strategies for themselves and thus they never understand the problems. Nobody here is really passionate about the game and immersed enough into to be skilled so they aren't going to see problems as well as a Total War fan.
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;42139792]They like it but they don't understand it. Most people who play these games can't begin to think strategies for themselves and thus they never understand the problems. Nobody here is really passionate about the game and immersed enough into to be skilled so they aren't going to see problems as well as a Total War fan.[/QUOTE]
What is there to not understand about desynchs, camera freezes, and silly AI? And that's the tip of the iceberg.
It's like Shogun 2 all over again. I wait for the desynch patch. Don't get me wrong, Rome 2 is my favorite total war game right now. There's so much to do, it's just that multiplayer campaign is very very buggy.
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;42139486]Try not letting facepunch adjust your views toward this game. Anywhere else you go on the internet dealing with Total War will be angry about the game problem's. Facepunch and strategy games don't mix together well when it comes to understanding the game.[/QUOTE]
I'd take this post more seriously if you didn't write off everyone else because they're not as skilled as you at strategy games.
[editline]10th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;42139792]They like it but they don't understand it. Most people who play these games can't begin to think strategies for themselves and thus they never understand the problems. Nobody here is really passionate about the game and immersed enough into to be skilled so they aren't going to see problems as well as a Total War fan.[/QUOTE]
Yeah see this is what I mean. They're not [I]true[/I] fans so their opinions and experiences don't matter. Also nobody is "skilled" enough to have a valid opinion on the game
[editline]10th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=JerryK;42138077]denial levels are off the charts![/QUOTE]
Are you for real
[editline]10th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;42138250]Don't get why this game has so many apologists.[/QUOTE]
Maybe, just maybe, because some people [I]actually like the game!![/I], and aren't letting a buggy launch completely soil their opinion of something
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;42139792]They like it but they don't understand it. Most people who play these games can't begin to think strategies for themselves and thus they never understand the problems. Nobody here is really passionate about the game and immersed enough into to be skilled so they aren't going to see problems as well as a Total War fan.[/QUOTE]
Yah, okay.... I guess I been playing this series as a mindless drone since the first medieval game.
Thanks for awakening me from my ignorance.
I agree with most of what he said.
A lot of the major flaws in the game are things Creative Assembly have done really well in the past, it's weird to see them drop the ball as hard as they did.
Not to say this is a bad game though, I'm enjoying it immensely.
Well I havent encountered many or any problems but I can clearly see that people are having problems.
Even rome total war still had problems, Sometimes my siege towers would fuck up and my men could neither climb it or get out of it, continually walking in fucking circles so both a unit and a siege engine was lost due to shitty glitches.
Edit: although, I find fighting sieges where the enemy has no walls a lot easier than open battles, as the enemy will just put loads of units into a confine spot, great for my slingers to butcher them in the crossfire. where as on open battles, there easily able to destroy more than half my army.
The biggest problems I've had is just enemy siege AI, that they send their whole army through a single crack, and stop trying to make more entrances.
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;42137677]The thing is that it's not consistent, while people are having horrible AI and passive campaign AI there are people like me (and I'm assuming you) who aren't having these issues. I have had smart aggressive tough AI who have built massive stacks and attacked me and taken out an army and took a settlement. While some people as you can see have completely different results.
Lol that is basically all the fighting in the main forums, people yelling the AI is bad in their game and people yelling the AI is good in their game.
I don't understand why he is complaining about the AI armies that have like no one left and no cities left and suicide themselves, it's either starve to death or at least die trying to establish themselves again and I'd rather the AI chose the later instead of running away and some how coming out with a full stack from nowhere[/QUOTE]
i think it would be more interesting if the presence of one of these "exile" armies would lower public order. if public order got too low the army would start growing.
it would make it a bit more important to destroy the armies completely instead of just passively letting the armies suicide themselves each turn until they fade away.
The amount of buyer's remorse in this thread is astonishing.
I'm suprised he didn't mention about any AI bugs on the actual campaign map besides them not making enough stacks of troops to fight you. Another issue that I've been experiancing greatly, is just a swarm of allied forces that are sieging a city turn after turn and never actually attacking the fucking thing and continue to re-blockaid or re-seige after every turn instead of waiting out the city.
What makes it worse is that you cannot attack the city if its actually your ally sieging it, which really makes no fucking sense when you could do so in previous titles if the AI decided to derp and continue resetting its blockaids and such.
Another bloody issue as well is that once you force a fraction to become a client state and such, your allies that were at war with them, will not declare peace, infact they will constantly ask you to re-engage war with the fraction that you just turned into a client.
Oh and lets not forget how they continue to neglect anyone who uses hardware besides Nvidia and Intel... I mean seriously i'm well between the minimum and recommended specs so why is it that this piece of crap lags the living fuck out of my computer when the AI ends the turns for all the other fractions and why does it also lag me whenever I expand my cities or end up revealing to much of the map that even moving units lags the fucking game. When the max usage its using for my card is around 10 fucking percent at most on lowest settings while only using 2 cores at most until those specific moments I mentioned earlier when it suddenly goes ahead and pushes all 6 cores to 100%.
I swear to god this kind of business pratice is fucking bullshit; litterally should be made illegal because they make the game run fine for Intel and Nvidia but then make the game as laggy and unstable as fucking hell for anyone who happens to use either AMD or any other competitor's hardware.
Oh and WHY DO SAVES FUCKING CRASH THE GAME ONCE YOU GET PAST TURN ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FUCKING FIVE?!
I'm just litterally pissed off with this, I wasted my money on a game that I thought wouldn't have the same stupid ass graphical glitches and performance issues that I had with Shogun 2 as well, but nope. Litterally disappointed, I think this is the last time I'm buying a product from Sega or Creative Assembly in general, done with the total war series if this is what its going to be for every release.
tl;dr, Sega and Creative Assembly doing it again, ignoring old issues and causing new issues, not even bothering to deal with them until everyone causes outrage over them. These "performance" issues started to arise for me during TW Empires during late games, then was much worse with Shogun 2 and now its fucking unbearable to play the game without it lagging constantly for no fucking reason.
Simply put this game is broken. Every aspect seems to have something wrong with it. its a shame because its a good game underneath.
[QUOTE=lionheart1066;42150851]I'm suprised he didn't mention about any AI bugs on the actual campaign map besides them not making enough stacks of troops to fight you. Another issue that I've been experiancing greatly, is just a swarm of allied forces that are sieging a city turn after turn and never actually attacking the fucking thing and continue to re-blockaid or re-seige after every turn instead of waiting out the city.
What makes it worse is that you cannot attack the city if its actually your ally sieging it, which really makes no fucking sense when you could do so in previous titles if the AI decided to derp and continue resetting its blockaids and such.
Another bloody issue as well is that once you force a fraction to become a client state and such, your allies that were at war with them, will not declare peace, infact they will constantly ask you to re-engage war with the fraction that you just turned into a client.
Oh and lets not forget how they continue to neglect anyone who uses hardware besides Nvidia and Intel... I mean seriously i'm well between the minimum and recommended specs so why is it that this piece of crap lags the living fuck out of my computer when the AI ends the turns for all the other fractions and why does it also lag me whenever I expand my cities or end up revealing to much of the map that even moving units lags the fucking game. When the max usage its using for my card is around 10 fucking percent at most on lowest settings while only using 2 cores at most until those specific moments I mentioned earlier when it suddenly goes ahead and pushes all 6 cores to 100%.
I swear to god this kind of business pratice is fucking bullshit; litterally should be made illegal because they make the game run fine for Intel and Nvidia but then make the game as laggy and unstable as fucking hell for anyone who happens to use either AMD or any other competitor's hardware.
Oh and WHY DO SAVES FUCKING CRASH THE GAME ONCE YOU GET PAST TURN ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FUCKING FIVE?!
I'm just litterally pissed off with this, I wasted my money on a game that I thought wouldn't have the same stupid ass graphical glitches and performance issues that I had with Shogun 2 as well, but nope. Litterally disappointed, I think this is the last time I'm buying a product from Sega or Creative Assembly in general, done with the total war series if this is what its going to be for every release.
tl;dr, Sega and Creative Assembly doing it again, ignoring old issues and causing new issues, not even bothering to deal with them until everyone causes outrage over them. These "performance" issues started to arise for me during TW Empires during late games, then was much worse with Shogun 2 and now its fucking unbearable to play the game without it lagging constantly for no fucking reason.[/QUOTE]
Were these mixed or improper fractions?
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;42151134]Were these mixed or improper fractions?[/QUOTE]
I had a client state and Sicily sieging Libya, it went on for 60 turns before a rebel army destroyed both of my allies armys and conquered the city and I couldn't even assist them during that time. A similar issue happened when Sparta went Suicidal after losing heavily to me, decided to declear war on every fraction it came into contact with.
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