Armed New Black Panther March - "You will die cracka!" - General

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51565486]How bout' we take huge sections of Detroit, buy out the buildings, wall it off, and let them go ham against each other. Those which live we send off to train in Alaska to become super soldiers.[/QUOTE] Yes, I agree. We should make a camp that is concentrated of a certain group of people maybe we can give them free work, as well! We can even give them badges to spot them easier.

[quote]The New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP) is a U.S.-based black political organization founded in Dallas, Texas, in 1989. Despite its name, NBPP is not an official successor of the Black Panther Party.[2] Members of the original Black Panther Party have insisted that the newer party is illegitimate and have firmly declared, "There is no new Black Panther Party".[2][/quote] [quote]The Anti-Defamation League, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights consider the New Black Panthers to be a hate group.[5][6][7][/quote] the new black panther party has nothing to do with the original black panthers. they're a hate group known for rampant anti-semitism among other things and have pulled shit like this before.

[QUOTE=cdr248;51565355]the black panther party has never even claimed to want equality what they were black power from the start buddy[/QUOTE] Funny considering the New Black Panther Party and the Black Panther Party are two entirely separate groups and the founders of the BPP have unilaterally denounced the NBPP for being extremist and hateful. The SPLC considers them a black supremacist hate group. The Black Panthers no longer exist - only these knockoff racists. The Huey P. Newton Foundation wrote this about the NBPP: "They denigrate the Party's name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded. ... The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward the "white establishment." The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of white people." Bobby Seale himself said this about the NBPP in 2010: "We will never, ever stoop to the low level of the mentality of a racist to just hate another person because of the color of their skin or ethnicity. We don't do that. That's not the goal objective. The goal objective is human liberation. The goal objective is the greater community cooperation of humanism. The goal objective is to get rid of institutionalized racism." Fuck the NBPP. No better than the Ku Klux Klan. I have respect for the original Black Panthers, even if I don't support a lot of their actions, but the NBPP is just a garbage fire of a group trying to co-opt the Black Panther name.

It never ceases to baffle me that groups like this are very pro-Africa but they do nothing to want to help any of these poorer African nations or even go over to them to help out. They just stay in the US, all nice in cozy where they can spout their words through their phones and upload it to twitter or youtube. [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Nbplogo.png[/img] Their logo is pretty interesting they're putting Africa as the main point, but I'm 100% sure these guys wouldn't go over to any African nation to promote their cause.

[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;51566290]It never ceases to baffle me that groups like this are very pro-Africa but they do nothing to want to help any of these poorer African nations or even go over to them to help out. They just stay in the US, all nice in cozy where they can spout their words through their phones and upload it to twitter or youtube. [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Nbplogo.png[/img] Their logo is pretty interesting they're putting Africa as the main point, but I'm 100% sure these guys wouldn't go over to any African nation to promote their cause.[/QUOTE] I don't think I would call being a poor black in the US being "nice and cozy"

[QUOTE=Samiam22;51566299]I don't think I would call being a poor black in the US being "nice and cozy"[/QUOTE] Being poor in America is nice and cozy compared to being poor in Africa

It's because they aren't african by any stretch of the imagination, and generally don't have any cultural ties at all. Though the imagery is pretty silly.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51566303]Being poor in America is nice and cozy compared to being poor in Africa[/QUOTE] Comparisons like that are meaningless and devalue what struggles blacks actually face in the US if their concerns are just going to be met with "you have it better than people in Africa". Following this train of thought, no one but those in the worst situation in the world have any right to complain. To be clear, I don't particularly agree with what the NBPP are doing in this video, but they should be allowed to do it because the other side of the coin does it as well, arguably worse, with a lot more power and influence.

I think they're saying "free us or you die cracker" which kind of has different connotations than "you will die cracker" but i'm pretty spooked by this too tbh

there's nothing more far-fetched than afrocentrism

[QUOTE=Samiam22;51565974]Of course it could, but looking at the laws and what whites also currently do in the US means that stopping these guys from doing these kinds of marches is pretty much just racism. I don't see how people like Richard Spencer can go around and get his followers to fling Nazi salutes in rallies, or those protests against Obama, demanding him to show his birth certificate, that included burning effigies of him, are OK and legal, whereas something like this is not. [editline]22nd December 2016[/editline] [img]http://ugc.reveliststatic.com/gen/constrain/800/800/100/2016/11/16/15/8p/yc/phwm3gf8o42qbwe.jpg[/img] ?[/QUOTE] Yeh, racism. Or, y'know it could have something to do with the fact that they're going about things in an idiotic and counter productive way.

personally I like seeing people expressing their constitutional rights whether or not I agree with what they're saying or how they're going about it

My only real problem is when they are threatening people inside of their cars. I'd be pretty intimidated if someone was talking about killing, has a gun, and is yelling at me inside of my car.

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;51566517]So you'd be all fine having a crowd of people wielding weapons marching around chanting about killing you?[/QUOTE] speaking as a transgender individual, I see it pretty regularly

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;51566579]I don't think anybody should be subjected to hate speech like that. When the US constitution was written, I don't think the founding fathers meant threatening others should be considered a constitutional right[/QUOTE] a big part of hate speech is being a credible threat "free us or you die" isn't really threatening a specific individual with any credibility, it's clearly more conceptual than that

Black Panther against the current militarized US police forces. Good luck with that. They'll have armored vehicles straight back from Afghanistan, rolling down the streets of mostly-black neighbourhoods.

The most surprising thing to me reading this thread is that some people apparently believe that the Black Fucking Panthers are fighting for equality.

[QUOTE=Judas;51566585]"free us or you die" isn't really threatening a specific individual with any credibility, it's clearly more conceptual than that[/QUOTE] Is this for real?

[QUOTE=Naught;51565898]I dont think it has anything to do with obama[/QUOTE] George W Bush had better race relations during his presidency than Obama is the sad part. Obama has just been trying to juggle being supportive of both BLM and the Police at the same time and it just has caused more frustration with how ineffectively diplomatic of stance it is.

Supermacists of any kind are dumb, so fuck these Black Panther dudes and fuck the Ku Klux Klan too. Both groups need to be arrested and put in jail for their actions.

that chant kind of sucks tho, "free us! or you die cracker" just doesn't roll off the tongue very well

[QUOTE=MadPro119;51565480]I mean theres plenty of other ammo already... [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dBwabFQnUE[/media][/QUOTE] Because the actions of criminals and the fact that black people kill black people the most which is (spoiler alert) true for every race means that any grievances people have over justice system reform are invalid. :^)

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;51566726]The most surprising thing to me reading this thread is that some people apparently believe that the Black Fucking Panthers are fighting for equality.[/QUOTE] Who are you talking about here? Isak? He's not exactly wrong, the old Black Panthers were trying to fight for racial equality but instead of doing it through peaceful protest they idiotically tried to do it through violence.

All I see is a group of Americans appropriately expressing their first and second amendment rights [QUOTE=Tudd;51575250]George W Bush had better race relations during his presidency than Obama is the sad part. Obama has just been trying to juggle being supportive of both BLM and the Police at the same time and it just has caused more frustration with how ineffectively diplomatic of stance it is.[/QUOTE] You can easily support both and the fact that you see both as opposing forces and deride diplomacy says a lot more about you than Obama.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51577260]All I see is a group of Americans appropriately expressing their first and second amendment rights[/quote] I'm sure you make such simple conclusive posts when the KKK or a Neo Nazis group does their 1st and 2nd amendment rights in the same way. [quote]You can easily support both and the fact that you see both as opposing forces and deride diplomacy says a lot more about you than Obama.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but the BLM by and large are a failed hashtag group that actually has caused more racism than it has solved.

This can't be legal, right?

[QUOTE=Lucasz;51577288]This can't be legal, right?[/QUOTE] Depends on state law, most of the time it is perfectly legal to carry firearms and do political marches. Even /pol/ once organized a political rally in which they basically stood silently infront of a federal reserve building, and just stared down people with guns on the backs and at their sides. No signs, no political symbolism, just utter silence.

Shit, how are they not getting anything for this? I have no problem with people exercising their free speech, I don't even care if nazis and the likes are walking around chanting as long as they are doing it in a peaceful non threatening manner but walking around with guns shouting about how you want to kill "crackers" and "pigs" shouldn't be allowed. Then again you guys also have the KKK. I can't decide whether I like the freedom of speech and political climate in Sweden or the US more.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51577292]Depends on state law, most of the time it is perfectly legal to carry firearms and do political marches. Even /pol/ once organized a political rally in which they basically stood silently infront of a federal reserve building, and just stared down people with guns on the backs and at their sides. No signs, no political symbolism, just utter silence.[/QUOTE] American Law makes my head explode, how backwards is it to allow people to have armed rallies. Thats a recipe for disaster.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51577287]I'm sure you make such simple conclusive posts when the KKK or a Neo Nazis group does their 1st and 2nd amendment rights in the same way.[/QUOTE] I don't see these guys burning people.