Dear White People - General

[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39905361]I'm half white, so does this mean half of myself can't use it?[/QUOTE] :v:Yes. You can say nig.:v:

[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39905361]I'm half white, so does this mean half of myself can't use it?[/QUOTE] You have to pick; nig or ger. Never both, though. Never.

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;39905348]No they aren't. Because it's just being used as a word, not as a way to say "your race is scum".[/QUOTE] No, but you're saying, "I don't care that I'm hurting an entire race of people". That is the decision you're making. Sounds pretty racist to me.

My CompSci teacher said "There's [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_in_the_woodpile]the nigger in the woodpile[/url]" when he spotted an issue with a powerpoint. In the presence of a black student. He almost got fired for that.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39905410]No, but you're saying, "I don't care that I'm hurting an entire race of people". That is the decision you're making. Sounds pretty racist to me.[/QUOTE] No, you're just putting words in mouths. You just think that no matter what the context is, that the word is racist. But it isn't. It's just a word. And in this day and age words are used a lot differently than in the 1900s. You never heard tell of a man in the 40s saying "that's sick, dude".

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;39905285]it's 2013. the word is not taken as seriously as it used to be. i see white people calling their friends, yes even black ones, "ma nigga" all the time. get over it and stop trying to give the word so much power.[/QUOTE] One of my buds calls me a nigga all the time. Now granted he is from a small town and only recently moved to the big city. Judging from how he looks at black people I don't think he's ever seen too many before outside music vids and I feel like he's watching his mouth around black people in general. He is really into rap and hip hop. A lot of people see the difference between the slang "nigga" and the derogatory term "nigger." But alas not everyone. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSZ3l3hdx64[/media] Really it all depends where you live, culture is different from place to place. Some fellow human beings will take insult to it, some might not even care and some might not even treat it like one in the first place.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39905410]No, but you're saying, "I don't care that I'm hurting an entire race of people". That is the decision you're making. Sounds pretty racist to me.[/QUOTE] What? I'm pretty sure black people don't have a radar that goes off in their heads whenever someone says that. I don't see any situation where someone would need to use that word, but the context still matters to some degree. You can't judge a person entirely on one word they use in any given context.

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;39905461]No, you're just putting words in mouths. You just think that no matter what the context is, that the word is racist. But it isn't. It's just a word. And in this day and age words are used a lot differently than in the 1900s.[/quote] stop telling black people what they should feel tho [QUOTE=HybridTheroy;39905461] You never heard tell of a man in the 40s saying "that's sick, dude".[/QUOTE] I dont understand this line, at all [url]http://racismschool.tumblr.com/post/19451295994/nigger-the-definition[/url] [editline]13th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Meller Yeller;39905482]What? I'm pretty sure black people don't have a radar that goes off in their heads whenever someone says that. I don't see any situation where someone would need to use that word, but the context still matters to some degree. You can't judge a person entirely on one word they use in any given context.[/QUOTE] yep the context he used it in was racist though so I'm not sure what this has to do with anything

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;39905482]What? I'm pretty sure black people don't have a radar that goes off in their heads whenever someone says that. I don't see any situation where someone would need to use that word, but the context still matters to some degree. You can't judge a person entirely on one word they use in any given context.[/QUOTE] [I]"Every time a gringo says 'nigger', a young black orphan spontaneously combusts."[/I] - Shadaez, March of 1972.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39905410]No, but you're saying, "I don't care that I'm hurting [b]an entire race of people[/b]". That is the decision you're making. Sounds pretty racist to me.[/QUOTE] By referring to Black people as a singular race of people, rather than being apart of humanity as a whole race, you could be perceived as the actual racist here. By simply saying a word without intent (going one way or another or in any general direction) behind it leaves the word entirely neutral, what suddenly turns it into a black/white scenario is how someone else would respond to your using of said word. Whatever intent you put into the word also has a huge effect (or maybe none at all?) on the reaction of others. If you were in your room and said "ching chong chopsticks" or something silly like that, it would mean nothing. But if you went into China Town and said it to some random Asian, then they would most likely react to it in disgust. Was your intent to insult them or be racist? Possibly not. Did the person react positively? No, as their first reaction would be to think that you were insulting them for their ethnic background.

[QUOTE=TAU!;39905618]By referring to Black people as a singular race of people, rather than being apart of humanity as a whole race, you could be perceived as the actual racist here. By simply saying a word without intent (going one way or another or in any general direction) behind it leaves the word entirely neutral, what suddenly turns it into a black/white scenario is how someone else would respond to your using of said word. Whatever intent you put into the word also has a huge effect (or maybe none at all?) on the reaction of others. If you were in your room and said "ching chong chopsticks" or something silly like that, it would mean nothing. But if you went into China Town and said it to some random Asian, then they would most likely react to it in disgust. Was your intent to insult them or be racist? Possibly not. Did the person react positively? No, as their first reaction would be to think that you were insulting them for their ethnic background.[/QUOTE] i literally just won Racism Bingo thanks dude I'm not at all racist for saying that, seriously, what a joke. Intent matters a little bit, but not really. What was said is still racist.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;39905212]so did anybody actually watch the video or did they asssume it was check your privilege bullshit because maxofSTDs posted it? it was just a trailer for a black comedy that commentates on racism fuck [/QUOTE] FP makes me rage sometimes.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;39905679]FP makes me rage sometimes* [b]*Every day.[/b][/QUOTE] You are my hero.

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;39905348]No they aren't. Because it's just being used as a word, not as a way to say "your race is scum".[/QUOTE] The actual use of the word by white people historically and even now has almost always been to demean and devalue black people. It's also been used a few times against people of other races but it was still a racist insult precisely because being black back then was synonymous with dirt. [QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39905361]I'm half white, so does this mean half of myself can't use it?[/QUOTE] It depends. In situations where you'd use the N-word your appearance matters a lot so if you look white then for all intents and purposes you are white and therefore unjustified if you use it unless your black friends personally approve of it (but only in front of them!). Generally I like to think that the whiter and higher up a person is on the socioeconomic ladder then the less they should be allowed to use the N-word.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;39901119]Maybe it is because institutionalized racism doesn't exist against white people.[/QUOTE] no matter how hard you want to pursue this argument, racism, much like literally any form of discrimination in the world, is not a one way street how many fucking people need to learn this

[QUOTE=-ZeeBo-;39901064]How is it racist wanting to touch a black persons afro? Actually now that I think of it I'd like to touch someones afro.[/QUOTE] Because it's fucking annoying as shit Just imagine sitting in class, taking notes, and then suddenly the kid behind you starts feeling your head like he's petting a sheep. Unless there is a mutual consent between both parties keep your fucking hands off my head like you would with any other person. [editline]5:51PM[/editline] Also: [url]http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1294352209[/url]

and wow fucking seriously guys? are we seriously debating on whether or not it's justified to stroke a black dude's afro as if they were an animal in a petting zoo?

The fact that you're all trying to justify the use of that word shows you're pretty racist really. Is it really that bad to just not say it?

[QUOTE=God's Pimp Hand;39905854]and wow fucking seriously guys? are we seriously debating on whether or not it's justified to stroke a black dude's afro as if they were an animal in a petting zoo?[/QUOTE] justified? no racist? no [editline]14th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Shadaez;39905916]The fact that you're all trying to justify the use of that word shows you're pretty racist really. Is it really that bad to just not say it?[/QUOTE] No, it's just for arguments sake i bothered continuing.

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39905916]The fact that you're all trying to justify the use of that word shows you're pretty racist really. Is it really that bad to just not say it?[/QUOTE] I'm not justifying anything. But if I were, would I only he half-racist?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIIzEgPt1eY[/media]

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39905916]The fact that you're all trying to justify the use of that word shows you're pretty racist really. Is it really that bad to just not say it?[/QUOTE] The fact that you think that just because someone says word nigger they are racist shows you're pretty racist really. Is it really bad to say it in a non-offensive way? [QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39905963]I'm not justifying anything. But if I were, would I only he half-racist?[/QUOTE] Probably.

[QUOTE=Lolx0rz;39906006] Is it really bad to say it in a non-offensive way?[/QUOTE] yeah, it is.

[QUOTE=Lolx0rz;39906006]The fact that you think that just because someone says word nigger they are racist shows you're pretty racist really.[/quote] please explain

[QUOTE=Shadaez;39905916]The fact that you're all trying to justify the use of that word shows you're pretty racist really. Is it really that bad to just not say it?[/QUOTE] Did you forget that you're on an internet forum? You know, where people argue for hours on something that they don't actually find the least bit important. Also the "you're doing this so that must mean you're a [racist, misogynist, etc.]" is a stupid argument that just means you have nothing left to actually contribute.

[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;39906035]yeah, it is.[/QUOTE] In a [B]non-offensive[/B] way. Emphasis on the [B]non-offensive[/B] e.g. talking about black oppression. [QUOTE=Shadaez;39906041]please explain[/QUOTE] You find racism in people discussing the word nigger in a non-racist way.

[QUOTE=Lolx0rz;39906062]In a [B]non-offensive[/B] way. Emphasis on the [B]non-offensive[/B] e.g. talking about black oppression.[/QUOTE] The word itself is offensive even if your intent isn't. It's like throwing around the word [I]kaffir[/I] in South Africa.

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;39906073]The word itself is offensive even if your intent isn't. It's like throwing around [I]kaffir[/I] in South Africa.[/QUOTE] Unless you are talking about why it has negative connotations.

[QUOTE=Lolx0rz;39906091]Unless you are talking about why it has negative connotations.[/QUOTE] say 'the n-word' for real stop trying to justify saying it

[QUOTE=Lolx0rz;39906091]Unless you are talking about why it has negative connotations.[/QUOTE] Well, of course. Isn't that what we're doing? It becomes a problem when people start saying "nigger" in regular talk because it's "funny" or whatever. There's nothing wrong with discussing it.