Those eyes on Batou instantly reminded me of this, and now I can't unsee it.
[img]http://img.pandawhale.com/133249-imgur-the-simple-image-sharer-qLbH.gif[/img]
This looks better than I expected it to be, but Scarlet is a horrible casting decision.
Being so used to the show, I can't take seeing or hearing her trying to portray the Major seriously, it's too jarring. The least they could have done is find some upstart asian actress to portray her.
[QUOTE=Jackald;51366694]a Japanese Light Novel which got a manga adaptation, and that film butchered the plot and point of "All You Need is Kill" just as hard by [sp]giving it a happy ending[/sp].[/QUOTE]
Its not like "All you need is kill" is a well written book or sacred material anyways. The whole romance thats shoehorned into the last 2 pages of the book is what gave it its bad ending, and that was the worst part of the book.
[QUOTE=Cureless;51368574]This looks better than I expected it to be, but Scarlet is a horrible casting decision.
Being so used to the show, I can't take seeing or hearing her trying to portray the Major seriously, it's too jarring. The least they could have done is find some upstart asian actress to portray her.[/QUOTE]
i think you have the same problem with Scarlet Johansson as I do with Tom Cruise. Can only ever see the actor, not the character.
[QUOTE=Jackald;51370090]I totally agree with you. It's a fun sci fi romp, but if Hollywood can't adapt something as simple as that, it stands literally no chance with Ghost in the Shell. Especially with a hack like Avi Arad directing.[/QUOTE]
Avi Arad is only producing the movie, it's being directed by Rupert Sanders. That said, his biggest credit is Snow White and the Huntsman so my hopes are not very high.
[QUOTE=Wii60;51367912]if it brings cyberpunk back to theaters ill buy a ticket
same for blade runner 2
the world needs more cyberpunk[/QUOTE]
The world needs more cyberpunk created by people who actually know that it's a genre and not just an aesthetic.
[QUOTE=Jackald;51370090]I totally agree with you. It's a fun sci fi romp, but if Hollywood can't adapt something as simple as that, it stands literally no chance with Ghost in the Shell. Especially with a hack like Avi Arad directing.[/QUOTE]
But why the hell would it adapt it if the ending in the original source material is bad? You don't adapt things by just copying everything to the word both good and bad. That's a dumb way to do an adaptation of anything.
[QUOTE=spekter;51370692]The world needs more cyberpunk created by people who actually know that it's a genre and not just an aesthetic.[/QUOTE]
I'm actually surprised I don't hear the equivalent of the old steampunk addage, "just glue some gears on it" regarding cyberpunk. Both genre are heavily bastardized by fashionistas who don't know what's going on other than the ~corsets and clock gears~ attitude. With cyberpunk there's a number of common, run-into-the-dirt tropes but it's hard to just kinda nail it down into a snarky joke.
It can all still be very artfully done, don't get me wrong, but it's not the foundation of what drives the genre and makes it stand out. (I love this artist's style and the image is supposed to be busy and full of tropes as it's a magazine cover, but it's a heavy example)
[t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN6Wf6NUEAAzMSt.jpg[/t]
a bigger problem is concept artist greeble just overcomplicating things until all the extreme details are just background noise, being blindsided with too many details to pay attention to is such a bad design tactic that's been overwhelming a LOT of modern/near-modern/futuristic movie styles
[t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3c/fa/6f/3cfa6fe809b4f50ea8363122bd61b010.jpg[/t]
This is a problem with a lot of movie adaptations of content, the directors treat it like dumping a ton of flavor powder on top of a generic action story, instead of considering how the genre's setting can create an experience you couldn't find elsewhere
[QUOTE=Jackald;51370090]I totally agree with you. It's a fun sci fi romp, but if Hollywood can't adapt something as simple as that, it stands literally no chance with Ghost in the Shell. Especially with a hack like Avi Arad directing.[/QUOTE]
So you would want a 1:1 adaptation even if the source material is garbage? Keep in mind that Manga and LN's are written mostly for children and teenagers, which is where the "Light" in Light Novel comes from. They're written with gradeschool lettering to make it easier to read. It's not a travesty if an adaptation takes a few liberties with the schlock its based on.
All You Need is Kill in particular is a 200 page book with barely any plot in it. It's just a fun kids book about [sp]super basic timetravel theories[/sp] and some indiscriminate violence against non-humans. Personally I'm glad that they took the route that they did with the movie, else it would have sucked. If anything, you should bitch that it's set with the US and UK forces as opposed to the US and Japanese forces in the book, along with the book taking place on the other side of the planet.
With Ghost in the Shell, do you really want just a 1:1 adaptation of a movie that already exists? For one it's got to be marketable to a western audience, and a movie with as much faux depth as GitS has would be impossible to market to the west. Half the original movie is just Motoko staring at stuff silently brooding on her lack of individuality. That works in anime because you can see beautiful hand drawn animation, but it doesn't transfer well to live action unless you're going for art schlock.
Being as you feel that way about Edge of Tomorrow, I'm can't wait to see yours and everyone elses reaction when Tom Cruise finally gets production of Sentou Yousei Yukikaze underway.
Is it overthinking it that I have doubts based on that one boat scene in the trailer?
"I don't know who to trust"
It doesn't seem in Motoko's character at all to show vulnerability like that to others, at least that shallowly. I mean she constantly has doubt and existential problems but in the original media she tries to resolve and challenge those problems herself rather than lean on someone else for support.
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;51365031]I'm surprised no one has posted this yet.
[video=youtube;F5amv-vqUFo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5amv-vqUFo[/video][/QUOTE]
1:25 looks like a shitty powerpoint transition
why the fuck would it swirl upwards like that instead of crumbling off and falling back into the pit?
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;51368991]i think you have the same problem with Scarlet Johansson as I do with Tom Cruise. Can only ever see the actor, not the character.[/QUOTE]
Tom Cruise can at least lay claim to having a personality that is slightly deeper and more interesting than that of the average fence post.
[QUOTE=lintz;51372030]1:25 looks like a shitty powerpoint transition
why the fuck would it swirl upwards like that instead of crumbling off and falling back into the pit?[/QUOTE]
That's kinda what it did in the original movie. A whole lot of anti-gravity stuff going on.
[QUOTE=spekter;51370692]The world needs more cyberpunk created by people who actually know that it's a genre and not just an aesthetic.[/QUOTE]
More than anything else we need a really good adaptation of Neuromancer.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;51372188]Tom Cruise can at least lay claim to having a personality that is slightly deeper and more interesting than that of the average fence post.[/QUOTE]
You apparently have never seen any of his movies. Tom cruise plays tom cruise. The only time he's even tried to act out of his range was in Taps and Last Samurai.
[QUOTE=27X;51372365]You apparently have never seen any of his movies. Tom cruise plays tom cruise. The only time he's even tried to act out of his range was in Taps and Last Samurai.[/QUOTE]
How about Born on the Fourth of July or The Firm ? Color of money, Jerry McGuire ? Vanilla Sky ? Eyes Wide Shut ? Rain man ? You are not trying to say all he ever did is action movies ?
Magnolia Tom Cruise is the best Tom Cruise.
[video=youtube;bbanWHx5AFQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbanWHx5AFQ[/video]
I know nothing about GitS so I'm indifferent to almost all of this. I do have to say though the Depeche Mode cover is fucking terrible, the rhythm and tone of the song completely contrasts the lyrics and mood of the original piece. I don't know what it is with movie trailers wanting to ruin classic tracks.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;51372451]How about Born on the Fourth of July or The Firm ? Color of money, Jerry McGuire ? Vanilla Sky ? Eyes Wide Shut ? Rain man ? You are not trying to say all he ever did is action movies ?[/QUOTE]
I'm saying Tom Cruise plays Tom cruise as Tom Cruise.
looks bad
[QUOTE=Novangel;51363217]A lot better than what the descriptions made it seem like, though still worried about that plot[/QUOTE]
Looks butchered from what I can tell. "You're the first of your kind" sets this apart as completely opposite of the original where we saw several exact copies of her body littered around the world, raising the main question the movie attempted to answer. Basically, it seems like it'll be as bad as Arise was with decent action sequences, but a very lackluster self-jacking off plot.
[QUOTE=space1;51372965]Looks butchered from what I can tell. "You're the first of your kind" sets this apart as completely opposite of the original where we saw several exact copies of her body littered around the world, raising the main question the movie attempted to answer. Basically, it seems like it'll be as bad as Arise was with decent action sequences, but a very lackluster self-jacking off plot.[/QUOTE]
only save would be if the 'first of your kind' is referencing an organic human brain in a full android body, instead of a human with prosthesis or a human who's been transferred to a cyberbrain
would rather she have a cyberbrain and not be a special snowflake experimental robot, it was the explicit lack of remaining self she harbored that built her character. And for those unfamiliar with the lore, she was still a child when she went full prosthetic, not rescued/altered as an adult
[QUOTE=dai;51373014]only save would be if the 'first of your kind' is referencing an organic human brain in a full android body, instead of a human with prosthesis or a human who's been transferred to a cyberbrain
would rather she have a cyberbrain and not be a special snowflake experimental robot, it was the explicit lack of remaining self she harbored that built her character. And for those unfamiliar with the lore, she was still a child when she went full prosthetic, not rescued/altered as an adult[/QUOTE]
It's also just tradition to completely change the story in every new iteration.
[QUOTE=space1;51374464]It's also just tradition to completely change the story in every new iteration.[/QUOTE]
the story changes, sure, but the core of what makes motoko who she is never changes
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;51365031]I'm surprised no one has posted this yet.
[video=youtube;F5amv-vqUFo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5amv-vqUFo[/video][/QUOTE]
For reference:
[video=youtube;BsiepGvjjTM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsiepGvjjTM[/video]
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51372360]More than anything else we need a really good adaptation of Neuromancer.[/QUOTE]
Unfeasible as a movie. If Netflix somehow manage to inject even bigger budgets into stuff and a decent screenplay writer steps up it'd have a chance but anything less would be a pure waste.
There's currently a series in the works revolving around Phillip K Dick's shorter stories which may bare some more fruit IF they actually adapt it right.
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;51367907]i predict it will be a 6.5/10, critics will hate it, heavy fans of the anime will hate it, light fans of the anime will say it's not too bad, normal moviegoers will think it's okay but kinda weird and the director will talk about how much of his vision was cut from the final product
It'll bomb or do below expected in western markets but make millions in the asian markets.
screenshot this so i can laugh at how wrong i am later[/QUOTE]
:toxx: that shit dude. Come on.
If it does better than a 6.5 you have to buy a GITS manga and eat it on camera or get perma'd.
You can even cook the book any way you want, but you ultimately have to consume an entire book.
One possibility yall missing about the whole 'first of your kind' line: That's what they tell her, and in the teaser they also tell you they are lying to her. It's entirely possible she was the first of her kind and they continue mass producing people like her, or they she isn't even the first in the line.
So they ARE including the virtual reality lesbian orgy, right?
[QUOTE=spekter;51370692]The world needs more cyberpunk created by people who actually know that it's a genre and not just an aesthetic.[/QUOTE]
funding any cyberpunk allows chances for those who know what they are doing to get funded
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