Student mad at teacher for not actually teaching, teacher's only reaction is "bye" - General

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;40577921]Substitute teachers are even worse. They are the most apathetic breed of adult I have ever seen since they have literally no obligations to actually teach the class and more often than not they try and feed their little power trips by being super strict for literally no reason. The hardest part of their job is finding the fucking class they're substituting.[/QUOTE] Hey :( I'm a Substitute teacher. And I can very much well find my classes!!!

[QUOTE=booster;40580321]Hey :( I'm a Substitute teacher. And I can very much well find my classes!!![/QUOTE] What do you teach? I never had a problem with subs, they were usually really interesting, subbing on the side from something way cooler like being a fencing master or a comedian or something like that.

I feel this dude's pain so much - similar thing happened to me at my college (high school for you 'Murricans). I was on a two year game development course and for the first year the course was run by this amazing dude, let's call him S. S was about the best teacher I'd ever had - he knew tons about his field and was always offering encouragement and inspiration, not to mention being quite a bro. Then at the end of the first year S left to retire (apparently due to differences with the faculty - as I later found out the place was/is being run like an abortion). When we got back from our holidays we discovered we had no head lecturer and nobody to help us through the lessons he taught and the assignments he'd set the previous term. Nobody in the faculty was apparently aware he had even left and it took them over a month to find somebody else (let's call him F; who wasn't even qualified in this field). In spite of this they were still pressuring us for work we couldn't deliver because we had no idea how to do half of it. The rest of our lecturers were pretty useless as well; our coding teacher basically refused to teach some of us because we lacked some mathematical knowledge. They had to constantly change the lessons plans around because they didn't have anybody qualified to teach us the material relevant to the course we'd signed up for. One day I stood up and started a minor revolution in class, because everybody on the course had all been pissed about the way things were going and we all needed to vent a little. Yeah... I didn't handle it anywhere near as calmly as this guy. Long story short I had to apologise to F (although I didn't say anything personally insulting) and we had a token visit a day or so later from the department head, who asked us about our concerns with the course and then dutifully sat reading text messages on her phone while we spoke. I was so glad to be out of that place. I'm sure it's at least part of the reason I'm not currently at University studying games development - I just lost my passion for it. Question is, where do I go from here?

The worst part about this is that he would've most likely gotten into a huge amount of trouble for speaking back to his teacher.

I feel like he is just saying this because he got in trouble because i heard this speech a dozen time through high school "its the teachers fault". Yes the system of learning isn't exciting and engaging but I'm sorry we can't handcraft learning for every student but I'm sorry you need to have the drive yourself to learn and not fall into making excuses for yourself. Make it exciting for yourself find ways for yourself to enjoy it. How are you going go into medical sciences if you lack base biology? How you going to go into engineering without base maths? How are you going to understand Shakespearian if you never read the text and analyse it? How are you going to understand business if you don't understand accounting and stats? every subject has its boring parts but you strive through you don't just chuck i hissy fit over it and disrupt the learning of other over it. I hated maths for the longest time and was failing for a long time through high school and yes i blamed my teacher for it but grew older and realized that it was always my fault in the end cause i didn't study enough and wasn't paying attention and i made my self come to understand and appreciate every course and subject i have done and try to understand where and why might i need this in my knowledge bank. I do not get how he is a hero when he is just whining how the system is boring for him and disrupting the class and the teacher. He is no hero he is just a kid finding excuses

I have a slight feeling that this class just doesn't care.

[QUOTE=Loriborn;40575912]he's pretty right the US education system is pretty atrocious teachers have their job because it's easy money or because they are also coaching sports and often don't understand the content they teach in the first place it's why getting a secondary education or external education is so necessary to actually learn viable content[/QUOTE] It's not just the US, it's pretty horrible in Poland too. Except every single school is either super catholic and private or piss poor. Motivation can work wonders though. I remember in 8th grade I was pretty bad at history having D's and maybe the occasional C. Then in grade 9 we got a new history teacher, which was basically an older version of the people I used to hang out with, and since then, I got straight A's.

Public school teachers are about a million times better than most university professors, who DO actually make lods of emone

you can even see that one student is falling asleep with his head down at the very front of the class

[QUOTE=chipset;40576067]Public education is generally pretty terrible wherever you are. I'm glad this guy has the balls to say what most people either don't realize/don't care or don't have the balls to tell their teacher. I myself have experienced this first hand, this past year has been an absolute joke as far as the education is concerned. Last year of high school in Sweden in an electrical engineering/IT education and the curriculum consists of learning windows server 2008, in a world where over 90% of the world servers run linux. On top of the curriculum being fundamentally flawed, the teacher doesn't give a shit and the last three tests have basically consisted of the same crap and barely related to the books. All we do is sit and play games in class and he doesn't even try to do anything about it, he just walks in and mutters something about working and then starts browsing conspiracy theory sites or goes off to drink coffee in the teachers lounge. /vent[/QUOTE] Are you attending NTI or John Bauer? I went to NTI and have former classmates who had similar experiences (I studied programming, they networking). Though they did manage to get some CISCO certifications for themselves.

This is why I love my history/geography teacher. He doesn't actually give us any tasks during the lesson. He speaks the whole lesson and interacts with the class in a way that will get many people curious about the subject and wanting to learn more. He always supplies proper topics for the upcoming tests and thus everyone has good grades. On the other hand, people like the teacher in the video should be fired.

My school has a particular physics teacher, who is very passionate about his subject (he visited CERN and did a bunch of international work), but he just isn't a very good [I]teacher[/I]. When he is explaining stuff on the blackboard, he explains it as he understands it and can't see the problem at hand through the students eyes. I shit you not, like 2/3 of the class have to cheat just to pass, because of the teachers inadequate explanations. Does anybody have teachers like that?

[QUOTE=Warriorx4;40576475]Are you kidding me? Berating her in front of the class? That's a horrible thing to do because now she's embarrassed and less inclined to do anything he suggested. He should've waited until an appropriate time, perhaps after or before class, and then do his little bit; and with more restraint at that.[/QUOTE] Kinda a late response, but I feel like it was fine the way he handled it. If she is labeled as a lousy teacher publicly, then it might actually hit home with her that what she is doing wrong. And so what if she is embarrassed? She is limiting the way these kids receive education, and that's far more important than her being embarrassed for a minute. [editline]9th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Hammerz;40582206]My school has a particular physics teacher, who is very passionate about his subject (he visited CERN and did a bunch of international work), but he just isn't a very good [I]teacher[/I]. When he is explaining stuff on the blackboard, he explains it as he understands it and can't see the problem at hand through the students eyes. I shit you not, like 2/3 of the class have to cheat just to pass, because of the teachers inadequate explanations. Does anybody have teachers like that?[/QUOTE] I had a Chemistry teacher in High School who was a terrible teacher. I feel like she also knew the material pretty well, but she wasn't super pumped on Chem. Anyways she would teach things so poorly, that over half the class was failing. It came down to me and one other kid, learning everything and teaching the rest of the class. In that respect it was actually very cool how we collaborated where me and this kid would teach a handful of kids and they would help teach others. So me and that kid were responsible for keeping her class a float. But then one day, two of my best friends were talking next to me during some down time in class, and she blamed me and my entire friend group for the classes poor performance. "You guys are the reason half the class is failing" she said, Ill never forget. Meanwhile my friends had some of the better grades in the class, and I was teaching half the class. It was ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Chronische;40580398]What do you teach? I never had a problem with subs, they were usually really interesting, subbing on the side from something way cooler like being a fencing master or a comedian or something like that.[/QUOTE] I teach everything, if a teacher is gone, they call me and I'll take that teachers spot for X amount of time. The teachers usually give me material/tasks that I give the kids. Some classes I'm just a person that makes sure the kids are there and watch over them. And sometimes I actually have a real class and teach them as good as I can ( there's quite a lot of preparation for such classes ). But most of the time, the principal calls me on a random day at like 07:30 AM, and then I go to work. Most of the kids I have learn about the stuff I teach, and I personally think I do a pretty good job at it. I'd never want to become a teacher though, good god it looks stressful.

I would also like to add in my state (South Carolina) public education is controlled by businessmen, not educators. Businessmen who are more worried about saving a few bucks. It seems ridiculous that people in this country want the US to be a strong and powerful nation, but want to spend little to nothing on education. I may be preaching to the choir, but a strong nation is built on education. Education is power. Honestly I think teachers should be one of the highest payed positions in America, they train our doctors, our lawyers, our businessmen, and every other position, yet teachers are one of the most under payed positions.

I wish I had proper education. I had to go to a highschool 50km away from where I live, as it's the only one for languages nearby AT ALL. It sucked big time tho, so the only language I really learnt was english and bit of spanish. I did 5 years german there but it's like I did none. And now I'm having a terrible time at the university because I never did theory of translation nor had a proper german language studies background. Actually one out of the 3 german teachers I had during these 5 years tried to bring me down as hard as she could, and I almost dropped out because of her. Luckily I didn't, I'm now in the last year university.

[QUOTE=chipset;40576067]Public education is generally pretty terrible wherever you are. I'm glad this guy has the balls to say what most people either don't realize/don't care or don't have the balls to tell their teacher. I myself have experienced this first hand, this past year has been an absolute joke as far as the education is concerned. Last year of high school in Sweden in an electrical engineering/IT education and the curriculum consists of learning windows server 2008, in a world where over 90% of the world servers run linux. On top of the curriculum being fundamentally flawed, the teacher doesn't give a shit and the last three tests have basically consisted of the same crap and barely related to the books. All we do is sit and play games in class and he doesn't even try to do anything about it, he just walks in and mutters something about working and then starts browsing conspiracy theory sites or goes off to drink coffee in the teachers lounge. /vent[/QUOTE] I work in privatized IT contracting and I've hardly ever had to work in a Unix based environment, but aight.

[url]http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Duncanville-ISD-Students-Teacher-Rant-Goes-Viral-206704921.html[/url] Student faces no punishment, teacher gets put on leave.

[QUOTE=Steve Harvey;40591319][url]http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Duncanville-ISD-Students-Teacher-Rant-Goes-Viral-206704921.html[/url] Student faces no punishment, teacher gets put on leave.[/QUOTE] Wow, you'd think that he'd get punished. Awesome.

Local Fox News interview [url]http://www.myfoxdfw.com/video?clipId=8858377&topVideoCatNo=237008&autoStart=true[/url]

From an article: [quote]Her son says he’s glad that his words have found a wide audience. But he’s uncomfortable with adulation. “I’m nobody’s hero,” he said “I’m just an inspiration for people to find the hero within themselves.”[/quote] This guy is Gandhi with luscious locks.

Youtube link for anyone who wants it. [video=youtube;bKjqjpePhTc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKjqjpePhTc[/video]

[QUOTE=.Isak.;40576553]There's a depressing number of schools like this. My own school is stratified because of the dumbing down of education. All the "regular" or "mainstream" kids get handed coloring maps in history and do packets all day. All the AP kids and IB kids do actual work, learn some neat stuff, and have class discussions. There were a number of teachers that had been there for decades, and every single one despised the current setup of stratified classes. They liked it when they had one English III class where all the kids went. If they sucked at it, they got C's and D's and F's and failed out of high school. All the kids that loved to learn did their best and got good grades and moved on. Good teachers were more common and would inspire the lower-class kids. Now a high school diploma is all but necessary and you get these stratified levels where you have to pay for testing and it's all a very sad corruption of the educational system.[/QUOTE] this so much, my history teacher showed us this video today, keep in mind its a regular history class. he agreed with what the kid was saying, and he got and basically said,"This is why I don't hand you packets, this is why I lecture and encourage discussion" He also got up and said basically that everything is so dumbed down so we can look like we at least fit standards which is really depressing. BUT from another standpoint he said he sees why some teachers do it. In my state, not sure about others, if students do bad in the class then the teacher is penalized. Some kids also aren't respectful enough to sit through a lecture and not have a conversation on the side, or play with their phones. In the AP/IB classes i'm in, i dont see any of that though, because nearly all the kids there actually took the class for a credit

Since we're posting updates here's an update: [url=http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/05/09/duncanville-high-teacher-on-leave-after-student-viral-video-rant/]This kid dropped out of school once and came back because he realized he needed a high school education to get anywhere.[/url] This incident took place in a [i]special needs classroom[/i]. (Not necessarily for mentally handicapped students, but a "work-at-your-own-pace" environment for anyone who needs it) Of course he found the material boring and the teacher uninspiring, every student in that class was at a different level and it would be impossible to teach it with conventional methods. It was a class designed for students to be able to just bang out whatever credits they missed so they can graduate. None of this would have happened if he wasn't 2-kool-4-skool

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40602303]Since we're posting updates here's an update: [url=http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/05/09/duncanville-high-teacher-on-leave-after-student-viral-video-rant/]This kid dropped out of school once and came back because he realized he needed a high school education to get anywhere.[/url] This incident took place in a [i]special needs classroom[/i]. (Not necessarily for mentally handicapped students, but a "work-at-your-own-pace" environment for anyone who needs it) Of course he found the material boring and the teacher uninspiring, every student in that class was at a different level and it would be impossible to teach it with conventional methods. It was a class designed for students to be able to just bang out whatever credits they missed so they can graduate. None of this would have happened if he wasn't 2-kool-4-skool[/QUOTE] Even if that is the case the teacher should still be trying to help the students which, judging entirely from this video, she wasn't doing.

[QUOTE=theseltsamone;40602608]Even if that is the case the teacher should still be trying to help the students which, judging entirely from this video, she wasn't doing.[/QUOTE] How are you able to judge the teacher's performance by the video? Its a 90 second video that provides no actual context.

[QUOTE=Valnar;40602715]How are you able to judge the teacher's performance by the video? Its a 90 second video that provides no actual context.[/QUOTE] That's why I pointed out that I'm basing that claim entirely on the video.

[QUOTE=theseltsamone;40602776]That's why I pointed out that I'm basing that claim entirely on the video.[/QUOTE] But there isn't a context given in the original video, so basing a value judgement on that original video isn't good.

Ah the tenure system.

[QUOTE=Maloof?;40577226]I think that's a bit subjective; we've all made fun of people in the past (even if we tell everybody that we haven't) and I think many times it's part of that social process of participation and membership with a group - 'Let's all join together and make fun of this guy' - it's an exercise in team-building and reaffirmation of membership through exclusion of those deemed to far outside of the ideals of the group. But yeah, often times it can be simply jealousy or fear[/QUOTE] well why are you making fun of the guy in the first place? it's because you don't want to be him, you are "afraid" of being him. [editline]11th May 2013[/editline] [url]http://fukkkres.tumblr.com/post/50033775361/blogger-ryan-nosdrinker-gives-a-lesson-on-how-to[/url] my fav "remix" of this vid. sad its only on tumblr