[QUOTE=thelurker1234;48155398]Great job at being a homophobic bully[/QUOTE]
I remember when the internet was all about calling people faggots
now it's all about tolerance of gays and exposing the jews
[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;48155934]Is this guy still relevant?[/QUOTE]
His last videos almost all got more than 2 million views but no, other than that he's not relevant anymore.
The thing with being bi and general populace is that it's not a thing for them. You like opposite sex? You're straight. You also like same sex? You're gay. They don't understand there's a middle ground.
Swear to god I thought this guy was gay. I remember seeing half a video, not liking him, and thinking, "I gotta remember to tell people that it's not 'cause he's gay."
[QUOTE=Flumbooze;48155952]His last videos almost all got more than 2 million views but no, other than that he's not relevant anymore.[/QUOTE]
Mystery solved. There's why he just "came out."
[QUOTE=Blu_ninja;48154381]Not to be heartless but is being bisexual even a big deal?[/QUOTE]
it is for me.
[QUOTE=McSkinny;48155429]Being gay or transgender includes growing up without having a semblance of 'normal' feelings to grasp onto, and for gay folks, romance, love songs, and every movie where the guy gets the girl or the girl gets the guy is something that seems foreign and isolating from what is felt inside.[/QUOTE]
that plus, gay people can't go back to their parents and actually legitimately say they met a girl they really like, after being outcasted entirely and called a "worthless faggot"
it's why people don't pay attention to bisexuals, because they don't actually have it that terribly
[QUOTE=J!NX;48156414]that plus, gay people can't go back to their parents and actually legitimately say they met a girl they really like, after being outcasted entirely and called a "worthless faggot"
it's why people don't pay attention to bisexuals, because they don't actually have it that terribly[/QUOTE]
There you go bisexuals of the world; just ignore all attractions to people of the same sex and keep your attractions hidden :v:
why even call it lgbt should just rename it lgt since bi's can just switch to straight at any time like a light switch
Bisexuals are just as discriminated as other LGBT parties, and often by LGBT members themselves. I know gay people who think bisexuals are gross/greedy. Some refuse to believe it exists, instead labelling it as a "phase".
Bisexuals are just as discriminated against as any other LGBT party dude.
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;48156464]There you go bisexuals of the world; just ignore all attractions to people of the same sex and keep your attractions hidden :v:
why even call it lgbt should just rename it lgt since bi's can just switch to straight at any time like a light switch
Bisexuals are just as discriminated as other LGBT parties, and often by LGBT members themselves. I know gay people who think bisexuals are gross/greedy. Some refuse to believe it exists, instead labelling it as a "phase".
Bisexuals are just as discriminated against as any other LGBT party dude.[/QUOTE]
missing the fucking point
it's not about just hiding all your attractions you damn fool. The difference is that gays have to pretend to be someone entirely different, bisexuals actually CAN date the other sex to be what everyone deems "Normal". The can choose to actually enjoy a gay marriage as well.
I'm a gay person. I'm not just pretending that it isn't an issue, bisexuals still exist, but they're overshadowed by gays literally because gay marriage still involves them. I'm not going to say "Just hide the gayness and let everyone think its OK", that's total bullshit.
and I don't think anyone is more discriminated against than trans folk. Comparing bi's to trans is very unfair. Most of the time on facepunch alone people are bouncing around the issue and don't even act like trans people are human beings. I see gay people outright even accepting trans as people.
Bisexuals are outcasted as "Being just a phase", that's pretty shitty but it's just not as bad as trans people are getting it. Trans people have to deal with everyone calling it a phase, and everyone saying that they don't understand themselves, and everyone saying that it's unnatural.
[QUOTE]since bi's can just switch to straight at any time like a light switch [/QUOTE]
I've heard of far more parents disowning their children for being gay than being bisexual.
bi's can't become gay/straight just like that but at least they have the opportunity of saying they like the opposite gender without totally what.
I wish I could say "I'm just bisexual", it'd make my life way fucking easier. I wish I could WANT to try to date a woman. But I fucking can't. It's pretty fucking great knowing that the only person I actually truly cares about was disowned by his father for being fucking gay.
[editline]9th July 2015[/editline]
maybe I'm just super biased because bisexuals are facing DIFFERENT issues than gays. Sorry if I am, I genuinely just don't understand.
This is exactly why bisexuals don't come out, not for the fear of discrimination from straight people, but from the lgbt community, the jealousy and bitter hate simply because "they have it easy and they can hide their gayness". It's fucked up how bisexuals are considered sex crazed maniacs who can't possibly have a meaningful relationship because they will end up cheating due to their attraction to both sexes. It's fucked up how bi men are viewed as gays who're simply afraid to admit they're gay, it's fucked up how bi woman are viewed as sluts doing it for attention. Any kind of issue with discrimination against bisexuals is swept under a rug it's not important they can just hide it lol!
When the lgbt community isn't shitting on transfolk, it's shitting on bisexuals, and that's fucked.
[QUOTE=J!NX;48156414]that plus, gay people can't go back to their parents and actually legitimately say they met a girl they really like, after being outcasted entirely and called a "worthless faggot"
it's why people don't pay attention to bisexuals, because they don't actually have it that terribly[/QUOTE]
except my mom straight up denied me being bi because im either gay or straight. Not to mention a ton of people call bi people sluts because they want both ends of the spectrum.
[QUOTE=OHNOES;48156746]This is exactly why bisexuals don't come out, not for the fear of discrimination from straight people, but from the lgbt community, the jealousy and bitter hate simply because "they have it easy and they can hide their gayness". It's fucked up how bisexuals are considered sex crazed maniacs who can't possibly have a meaningful relationship because they will end up cheating due to their attraction to both sexes. It's fucked up how bi men are viewed as gays who're simply afraid to admit they're gay, it's fucked up how bi woman are viewed as sluts doing it for attention. Any kind of issue with discrimination against bisexuals is swept under a rug it's not important they can just hide it lol!
When the lgbt community isn't shitting on transfolk, it's shitting on bisexuals, and that's fucked.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=codemaster85;48156763]except my mom straight up denied me being bi because im either gay or straight. Not to mention a ton of people call bi people sluts because they want both ends of the spectrum.[/QUOTE]
that makes WAY more sense, I guess I really am just not getting that it's different.
I never thought to apply people calling bi's sluts because I'd never think of them as such just because they like either way.
Gays really shouldn't be judging bi's as sluts for their sexual attraction that's fucking insane
[QUOTE=J!NX;48156414]that plus, gay people can't go back to their parents and actually legitimately say they met a girl they really like, after being outcasted entirely and called a "worthless faggot"
it's why people don't pay attention to bisexuals, because they don't actually have it that terribly[/QUOTE]
why are you assuming they're coming home with a girl? cos if they don't then everyone's gonna say "oh so you're gay," and then that person's not only facing just as much homophobia, but also the added ignorance of what bisexuality means. it's not just being straight with some additions.
[QUOTE=Cone;48157113]why are you assuming they're coming home with a girl? cos if they don't then everyone's gonna say "oh so you're gay," and then that person's not only facing just as much homophobia, but also the added ignorance of what bisexuality means. it's not just being straight with some additions.[/QUOTE]
that post was before I realized I was being an ignorant tit
[QUOTE=J!NX;48155128]at least bisexuals can SAY "They like woman" without lying to heterosexuals
homosexuals and trans have to outright lie about what they want
bisexuals are still included in the gay rights group by simply being gay. But they still can look for an appealing husband/wife without the thread of being outcasts. If you're entirely gay, or just marrying the same sex, you're outright treated like a second class citizen (though the states legalizing it changed that)
[editline]9th July 2015[/editline]
gays really shouldn't be judging people based on sexuality like that. Any gays actually doing that probably don't understand the hypocricy of that.[/QUOTE]
Okay so? 'They've got it better than x so why is it worth talking about'. Everybody's got it better than [I]somebody[/I], that doesn't strip value from activism or progress. It's not a competition of who is suffering more.
[editline]10th July 2015[/editline]
I guess it's also important to remember that bisexuals get a lot of unfair discrimination that's exclusive to their orientation - being assume to be sluts, being told their orientation doesn't exist or that they're simply flip-flopping (which is always gonna be seen as a direct attack on somebody's sense of self, because it is), etc
[editline]10th July 2015[/editline]
sorry, I didn't see that had been covered above already! ily really jinx
That was my point as well, bisexual individuals have it pretty fucking bad. Sure, they [I]can[/I] marry into a heterosexual relationship and live a "normal" life but that doesn't mean they should be forced to feel that is the best choice, or that their same-sex feelings are illegitimate.
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMprpu0et9M"]Being bi[/URL] should be more like winning the sexuality game, less like drawing an awkwardly mediocre card ;p
It's great to hear that he's coming to terms with everything, but why is this of any news to anyone? It was pretty apparent with how deadpan he'd act with the "gay" stuff in his videos and how recurrent it would be.
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To add to that discussion about bisexuality - bi-erasure is a really terrible thing, as is all other forms of discrimination towards the entire spectrum of sexual orientations. Sexuality really isn't a clear thing where it's "you either are or aren't". There are so many factors that have to be considered, and a majority of people don't understand what that really means. It almost makes me wish that there was a test to clear out any discrepancies in determining one's sexuality, like a true analysis of the brain. Hell, we don't even know the part of the brain that regulates sexual desire.
I can understand, I feel bi but I know my family would just assume I'm scared to say I'm gay. I lean more towards dudes lately, but I still find some women attractive. Who knows maybe I'll swing back the other way, sexuality is weird
nobody knows this guy? this is that youtube star that everyone hated in the early days of youtube
[editline]actually[/editline]
actually not that early i see it was mainly in 2008-2010
soon everyone on youtube has come out of the closet!
Coming out for me was as easy as saying "hey guys i'm bisexual" to my parents in the car one day.
Does it really warrant 15 minutes?
Mind you I live in Sweden where we are very secular and accepting, so...
Being someone who is pansexual I often face a lot of challenges on the dating scene. I've noticed over the years that women often have a hard time accepting me being pansexual. Its like as soon as I tell them I'm pan they loose all attraction. On a few occasions I've asked some of them what their reasoning was and most of the time it comes down to the same thing. They are totally supportive of the lgbt community, but they are insecure by the fact that they are competing with not just females, but males as well. This logic is total bullshit because its like they think that I'm some sex crazed person and would leave them on a dime if I saw someone more attractive than them. They couldn't be more wrong.
I've experienced the gay community first hand claiming that my sexuality is bullshit and that I'm just gay. There is no in-between and sexuality is not fluid. Its ridiculous. And even when I told my parents that I was pan, they were accepting and loving, but my mother didn't quite understand at the time. She was also under the assumption that bisexuals/pansexuals don't really exist. I think she has a better understanding now, but that logic is wide spread.
Its not that I have a problem with dating mainly guys, it just sucks that I've missed out on a lot of really great people over something so petty. My hope is as time goes by people will become even more accepting of it and I feel like most people are already. But I think its time people get rid of that notation that bisexuals are sex crazed human beings. Its just bullshit to assume that.
[QUOTE=Rich209;48162212]
I've experienced the gay community first hand claiming that my sexuality is bullshit and that I'm just gay. There is no in-between and sexuality is not fluid. Its ridiculous. And even when I told my parents that I was pan, they were accepting and loving, but my mother didn't quite understand at the time. She was also under the assumption that bisexuals/pansexuals don't really exist. I think she has a better understanding now, but that logic is wide spread. [/QUOTE]
I never knew so many gays said these things about bi's/pan/etc. Come to think of it... it's funny that gays would say such a thing, because heteros said that same exact shit in the fifties, who would say "Oh, gays aren't actually gay, they're just confused sexual deviants." In fact, you should say that to them.
it's literally the exact same argument, just even more stupid.
[editline]10th July 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=uitham;48158672]nobody knows this guy? this is that youtube star that everyone hated in the early days of youtube
[editline]actually[/editline]
actually not that early i see it was mainly in 2008-2010[/QUOTE]
2008 for youtubes actually pretty 'ancient history', since it's not that old.
[QUOTE=Rich209;48162212]Being someone who is pansexual I often face a lot of challenges on the dating scene. I've noticed over the years that women often have a hard time accepting me being pansexual. Its like as soon as I tell them I'm pan they loose all attraction. On a few occasions I've asked some of them what their reasoning was and most of the time it comes down to the same thing. They are totally supportive of the lgbt community, but they are insecure by the fact that they are competing with not just females, but males as well. This logic is total bullshit because its like they think that I'm some sex crazed person and would leave them on a dime if I saw someone more attractive than them. They couldn't be more wrong.
I've experienced the gay community first hand claiming that my sexuality is bullshit and that I'm just gay. There is no in-between and sexuality is not fluid. Its ridiculous. And even when I told my parents that I was pan, they were accepting and loving, but my mother didn't quite understand at the time. She was also under the assumption that bisexuals/pansexuals don't really exist. I think she has a better understanding now, but that logic is wide spread.
Its not that I have a problem with dating mainly guys, it just sucks that I've missed out on a lot of really great people over something so petty. My hope is as time goes by people will become even more accepting of it and I feel like most people are already. But I think its time people get rid of that notation that bisexuals are sex crazed human beings. Its just bullshit to assume that.[/QUOTE]
i'd never really dug into anything past the "LGBT" of the acronym but pansexuality makes a lot of sense. if gender/sexuality is non-binary, then "bisexuality" seems like a bit of a misnomer.
[QUOTE=Mr. Jelly;48154436]Well kind of, a lot of people forget we even exist, and some people, both gay and straight, even deny it as an actual sexuality. Like, they think it's just experimenting, or lying. Bisexuals are like the fucking Korean War of sexualities. Nobody ever remembers us, because they're too busy thinking about WW2 or Vietnam.[/QUOTE]
In my high school, there were tons of folks that identified as bisexual, and all of them ended up either in relationships with the other gender, or in very short relationships with the same gender.
This originally led me and all of my peers to believe that bisexuality was not a real sexual orientation and was used by straight folk to get attention.
While my views have changed since then, my experience with bisexual people still have not changed, so I can see why people would deny that it's an actual sexuality.
[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;48162469]In my high school, there were tons of folks that identified as bisexual, and all of them ended up either in relationships with the other gender, or in very short relationships with the same gender.
This originally led me and all of my peers to believe that bisexuality was not a real sexual orientation and was used by straight folk to get attention.
While my views have changed since then, my experience with bisexual people still have not changed, so I can see why people would deny that it's an actual sexuality.[/QUOTE]
A lot of people in high school assumed that bisexuality is the absolute middle ground between heterosexuality and homosexuality, so that when bisexual people dated more of one gender than another, they were "actually just gay."
It's not like that, though. It's a spectrum. I know bisexual girls that people would say "are actually lesbians" because they have far more female partners than male ones. I know bisexual men that people would say are "straight people looking for attention" because they've never had a male partner. People, especially high-schoolers, just don't understand the idea that you can be a pubic hair away from pure heterosexuality and still be bi.
heterosexuality and homosexuality aren't real anyways, everyone falls on a spectrum and nobody is 100% totally straight or 100% gay.
Some bisexual people prefer one gender over the other, it's not always 50/50. That's something that needs to be kept in mind. And then some people are sexually attracted to men and women but would only ever want to be in a romantic relationship with one of those.
I know this one guy who is gay (wants to only have sex with men), panromantic (romantically could be a relationship with any human being) and sapiosexual (attracted by intelligence more than your average lot).
Its like Katska just said, sexuality is fluid.
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