Sam Pepper- The Real "Reveal": A girl talks about her experience with Sam Pepper.
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[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46078005]This didn't happen to her last week. A rape kit would do shit-all. When you have this many people saying something, it's just plain stupid to say "But there's still the tiny chance that all of them are lying because they hate men" or some stupid bullshit.[/QUOTE]
But you're supposed to get a rape kit when you get raped.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46077932]First of all, you are [I]also[/I] judging someone over a youtube video and a tumblr post. You are accusing this woman of being a liar on [I]nothing.[/I] Second of all, it's not 'just a youtube video and a tumblr post', that much is fucking obvious or do I need to list everything that you're conveniently ignoring for the third time [I]this page?[/I]
There is no way to gauge how someone is going to react to being raped. Y'know what, I like to think I would go press charges, but I [I]don't fucking know that I could because you're dealing with someone who's been raped, someone who, I don't think you get this, has just had their entire world fucking shattered.[/I]
Like I said in the other thread, I was sexually harassed at school. People constantly asked me really really inappropriate questions and then one person grabbed my ass. I marched right down to the office and told them about it, but you can [I]bet your fucking ass I was scared, and afraid of the repercussions.[/I] I was able to but I damn sure wouldn't blame any other woman because she was too afraid to do it in the same situation, and I would take a bullet to the brain before I doubt a woman who was [B]raped[/B] because she was too scared to go to the police. So yeah, I do think there's a damn good chance I or any other woman would be too scared, and y'know what? I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about.[/QUOTE]
Ok please go ahead and quote me where I said he or she was a liar, tell me I'm not impartial.
And yes, it's just a youtube video and a tumblr post, leave their work to the fucking cops and a judge you idiot who do you think you are seriously?
[QUOTE=Eimusak;46078019]But you're supposed to get a rape kit when you get raped.[/QUOTE]
Just because you're supposed to does not mean everyone does. like Mister Sandman said, a lot of women are too scared to act after being raped.
[editline]25th September 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46078044]Ok please go ahead and quote me where I said he or she was a liar, tell me I'm not impartial.
And yes, it's just a youtube video and a tumblr post, leave their work to the fucking cops and a judge you idiot who do you think you are seriously?[/QUOTE]
We don't need to accuse you of calling her a liar, it's pretty obvious based on your conduct that you don't believe her.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46078056]Just because you're supposed to does not mean everyone does. like Mister Sandman said, a lot of women are too scared to act after being raped.
[editline]25th September 2014[/editline]
We don't need to accuse you of calling her a liar, it's pretty obvious based on your conduct that you don't believe her.[/QUOTE]
Do you have reading comprehension problems?
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46078157]Do you have reading comprehension problems?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46077897]So what you three are trying to tell me is that if you got raped you'd rather hide under your bed and not go press charge?[/QUOTE]
"If they didn't go get the police immediately, then I don't trust them saying they were raped"
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46078044]Ok please go ahead and quote me where I said he or she was a liar, tell me I'm not impartial.
And yes, it's just a youtube video and a tumblr post, leave their work to the fucking cops and a judge you idiot who do you think you are seriously?[/QUOTE]
I think I'm an intelligent, empathetic human being who can tell when someone is [I]obviously[/I] guilty of something and isn't up for doubting rape victims who are very clearly telling the truth.
And, since you apparently failed to read this the last two times, hilarious considering you just mocked someone for having 'reading comprehension problems', then allow me to reiterate once more
[B]HERE IS ALL THE THINGS POINTING TO THE FACT THAT SAM PEPPER IS LIKELY GUILTY OF RAPE/SEXUAL ASSAULT AND OR IS THE KIND OF PERSON TO DO SO HENCE WHY YOU SHOULD NOT DOUBT HIS ACCUSERS FOR NO GOOD FUCKIN' REASON:[/B]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wgviv47pBc]Dottie assaulted on a date[/url]
[url=http://shirleyhatessam.tumblr.com/post/98329399669/i-was-sexually-assaulted-by-sam-pepper]Shirly J assaulted on a date[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vIh2-q0NTs]Anonymous rape confession[/url]
[url=http://anonsurvior111.tumblr.com/post/98389247384/before-you-tell-me-im-lying]Anonymous' tumblr post containing screenshots of their phone messages with Sam Pepper[/url]
[url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/youtube-star-sam-pepper-accused-of-soliciting-nude-photos-fr#4imnytb]Minor whom Sam Pepper solicited nude photos from[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qVaMhnJB8]Laci Green's video on the subject in which she states that she is in contact with girls who have suffered from Sam Pepper's abuse and are thinking about coming forward, that one is moving to file criminal charges[/url]
[url=https://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/514772066709422080/photo/1]A screenshot on Laci Green's twitter where Sam Pepper threatened her via email when she was preparing to release her video on the subject.[/url]
[url=https://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/514777598237233152/photo/1]Another screenshot from Laci Green's twitter where Sam Pepper threatened her via email when she was preparing to release her video on the subject.[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8nbnglaW-Q]A video of Sam Pepper sexually harassing women by pinching them on the street[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zQECbxVo0]A video of Sam Pepper sexually harassing women by handcuffing them to himself and demanding they kiss him[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kk62700eMs]A video of Sam Pepper sexually harassing women by trying to get them to kiss him on the street[/url]
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46078267]"If they didn't go get the police immediately, then I don't trust them saying they were raped"[/QUOTE]
Why are you putting words that I didn't say in my mouth?
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46078269]I think I'm an intelligent, empathetic human being [B]who can tell when someone is [I]obviously[/I] guilty of something [/B]and isn't up for doubting rape victims who are very clearly telling the truth.
And, since you apparently failed to read this the last two times, hilarious considering you just mocked someone for having 'reading comprehension problems', then allow me to reiterate once more
[B]HERE IS ALL THE THINGS POINTING TO THE FACT THAT SAM PEPPER IS LIKELY GUILTY OF RAPE/SEXUAL ASSAULT AND OR IS THE KIND OF PERSON TO DO SO HENCE WHY YOU SHOULD NOT DOUBT HIS ACCUSERS FOR NO GOOD FUCKIN' REASON:[/B]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wgviv47pBc]Dottie assaulted on a date[/url]
[url=http://shirleyhatessam.tumblr.com/post/98329399669/i-was-sexually-assaulted-by-sam-pepper]Shirly J assaulted on a date[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vIh2-q0NTs]Anonymous rape confession[/url]
[url=http://anonsurvior111.tumblr.com/post/98389247384/before-you-tell-me-im-lying]Anonymous' tumblr post containing screenshots of their phone messages with Sam Pepper[/url]
[url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/youtube-star-sam-pepper-accused-of-soliciting-nude-photos-fr#4imnytb]Minor whom Sam Pepper solicited nude photos from[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qVaMhnJB8]Laci Green's video on the subject in which she states that she is in contact with girls who have suffered from Sam Pepper's abuse and are thinking about coming forward, that one is moving to file criminal charges[/url]
[url=https://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/514772066709422080/photo/1]A screenshot on Laci Green's twitter where Sam Pepper threatened her via email when she was preparing to release her video on the subject.[/url]
[url=https://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/514777598237233152/photo/1]Another screenshot from Laci Green's twitter where Sam Pepper threatened her via email when she was preparing to release her video on the subject.[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8nbnglaW-Q]A video of Sam Pepper sexually harassing women by pinching them on the street[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zQECbxVo0]A video of Sam Pepper sexually harassing women by handcuffing them to himself and demanding they kiss him[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kk62700eMs]A video of Sam Pepper sexually harassing women by trying to get them to kiss him on the street[/url][/QUOTE]
So you have super power is what you're telling me? Once again who do you seriously think you are??
You have got to realize all the girls in his video gave their consent beforehand, they knew EXACTLY what he was going to do (whether him or simple pickup or any channel like that).
And all those 'proofs' you are showing are really inconsistent, considering the global climate of the internet right now you know sjw will go the EXTREME length to get their point across, just take a look at that Emma Watson supposed leak.
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46078310]you know sjw will go the EXTREME length to get their point across, just take a look at that Emma Watson supposed leak.[/QUOTE]
You can't just accuse sjws of everything and expect anyone to believe you.
First of all, I hate Sam Pepper, I think he's a scumbag and that if he IS a rapist he should go to prison for a very long time.
I'm posting why I don't think there's (enough) solid evidence of this to call the guy a rapist yet.
To quote Mister Sandman [sp]a user who, by the way, is female and a victim of sexual harassment herself according to about 7 posts ago and thus is likely to carry a very heavy bias in this debate[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46078269]I think I'm an intelligent, empathetic human being who can tell when someone is [I]obviously[/I] guilty of something and isn't up for doubting rape victims who are very clearly telling the truth.
And, since you apparently failed to read this the last two times, hilarious considering you just mocked someone for having 'reading comprehension problems', then allow me to reiterate once more
[B]HERE IS ALL THE THINGS POINTING TO THE FACT THAT SAM PEPPER IS LIKELY GUILTY OF RAPE/SEXUAL ASSAULT AND OR IS THE KIND OF PERSON TO DO SO HENCE WHY YOU SHOULD NOT DOUBT HIS ACCUSERS FOR NO GOOD FUCKIN' REASON:[/B]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wgviv47pBc]Dottie assaulted on a date[/url]
[url=http://shirleyhatessam.tumblr.com/post/98329399669/i-was-sexually-assaulted-by-sam-pepper]Shirly J assaulted on a date[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vIh2-q0NTs]Anonymous rape confession[/url]
[url=http://anonsurvior111.tumblr.com/post/98389247384/before-you-tell-me-im-lying]Anonymous' tumblr post containing screenshots of their phone messages with Sam Pepper[/url]
[url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/youtube-star-sam-pepper-accused-of-soliciting-nude-photos-fr#4imnytb]Minor whom Sam Pepper solicited nude photos from[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9qVaMhnJB8]Laci Green's video on the subject in which she states that she is in contact with girls who have suffered from Sam Pepper's abuse and are thinking about coming forward, that one is moving to file criminal charges[/url]
[url=https://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/514772066709422080/photo/1]A screenshot on Laci Green's twitter where Sam Pepper threatened her via email when she was preparing to release her video on the subject.[/url]
[url=https://twitter.com/gogreen18/status/514777598237233152/photo/1]Another screenshot from Laci Green's twitter where Sam Pepper threatened her via email when she was preparing to release her video on the subject.[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8nbnglaW-Q]A video of Sam Pepper sexually harassing women by pinching them on the street[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zQECbxVo0]A video of Sam Pepper sexually harassing women by handcuffing them to himself and demanding they kiss him[/url]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kk62700eMs]A video of Sam Pepper sexually harassing women by trying to get them to kiss him on the street[/url][/QUOTE]
"should not doubt his accusers for no good fuckin[b][i]'[/i][/b] reason"
Okay, well here's some reasons to have some reasonable doubt from these claims:
-First of all, how come this is all from within the past 3 or 4 days? Why did, suddenly, everybody start claiming Sam is a rapist after this video from about a week ago and not after any of his dozens of other absolutely ridiculous [sp]and most likely staged because we all know that like 90% of these pranksters on youtube are staged[/sp] videos?
-That Buzzfeed article, [sp]I don't use facebook so I don't know if this is a dumb question[/sp] why is "Sam" named "Facebook User"? Why are there no timestamps on those chat logs?
-All of these [sp]sexual harassment[/sp] stories sound pretty similar, in fact. They all happened about 2-3 years ago [sp]and nobody bothered to do anything about it until now (or, more specifically, three days ago when claiming Sam is a rapist became a thing)[/sp], they all involve Sam doing something moderately offensive to the girl in question and then have her reaction be explained (in every story) as "oh well I didn't want to be rude or anything so I just laughed and flirted with him lol". Sounds like a lot of people jumping on the bandwagon to me.
-Dottie: Links to these chat logs that you're suddenly capable of finding 2 years after they occurred? Sorry but showing me that "Sam Pepper" [sp]without timestamps[/sp] sent you three messages doesn't really convince me that he sexually assaulted you.
-Shirley J: Made an account today to write about a sexual assault that happened three years ago? And I don't know about you people, but it sounds just like a movie to me. "I split up with my friends to go home, and guess what? This guy followed me so he could try to fuck me!" I could write an equally "convincing and substantial" post right now about how I almost stabbed somebody one night while out for a run because it was a black guy and he was following me and etc.
-Anonymous girl: So this rape happened two and a half months ago, and it doesn't become relevant until about a day after people begin to claim that Sam Pepper is a rapist because of this ass-grabbing video he made? The entire account sounds like it was scripted (the youtube video yes, but even moreso the tumblr post with lines such as this:
[img]http://imgur.com/yOeAZVQ[/img] (link in case that doesn't show up [url]http://imgur.com/yOeAZVQ[/url])
"I don't know. I don't know. I don't know." Sure sounds like you were trying to make it seem as though you were actually speaking these words from the top of your head. Sounds like something a fairly inexperienced actor would do, hmm? Oh yeah, those "clear emotional outbursts" somebody mentioned a few posts ago? Wouldn't be that hard for an actor (she mentions being in LA for the [acting] industry multiple times in her video) to, you know, act out something like that, would it?
-Back to that Buzzfeed article: "Abbey McEnroe, 19,... Playlist Live,... etc." That's an immensely substantial account, huh? What with all the pictures of her Facebook chat with him and all.
-Laci Green: This is the only video that's convincing me about this at all, and that's only because Laci claims that one of the girls who was harassed by Sam is going to press charges against him. I'm gonna keep my eye on this one, because I'd like to see if these charges really are pressed and how that plays out. Until then, I reserve my right to be skeptical about this whole debacle. I don't believe those emails, though. How would Sam know about her video before she posted it? Seriously, if somebody can explain this to me then I'll be ever more convinced but until then this sounds like another quinnspiracy-esque scandal what with all the social justice warriors running about like this guy
[img]http://imgur.com/nbCesiV[/img] (link again [url]http://imgur.com/nbCesiV[/url])
Realistically speaking, outside of what's in the videos on his youtube channel, nothing can be brought against Sam because it's all My Word vs His Word and hearsay. Unfortunate truth.
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46078310]Why are you putting words that I didn't say in my mouth?
So you have super power is what you're telling me? Once again who do you seriously think you are??
You have got to realize all the girls in his video gave their consent beforehand, they knew EXACTLY what he was going to do (whether him or simple pickup or any channel like that).
And all those 'proofs' you are showing are really inconsistent, considering the global climate of the internet right now you know sjw will go the EXTREME length to get their point across, just take a look at that Emma Watson supposed leak.[/QUOTE]
Dude see, I am always skeptical in stuff like this, and before Mister Sandman posted all those links I was still thinking that there might be a small 0.01% chance that this is just taking advantage of someone who was doing sexual harassment on tape and blaming for him rape because hes a huge scumbag and would be insanely easy to get everyone against him since most are already.
But I mean come on, Sam Peppers has already shown this behavior publicly in his videos multiple times, I dont think its surprising at all he turned out to be a rapist. He clearly thinks his behavior is okay, otherwise he wouldn't do it and profit from it multiple times.
This is hardly some stupid SJW thing trying to get a point across. Sam Peppers makes his points well enough on his own.
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46078310]You have got to realize all the girls in his video gave their consent beforehand, they knew EXACTLY what he was going to do (whether him or simple pickup or any channel like that).[/QUOTE]
So you believe the word of a guy who is very interested in saving his ass after a sexual assault scandal, but not the word of someone who opened themselves up to a torrent of hate speech by making their statement. Explain?
Should Sam Pepper die?
You people are blinded by stupidity, act and post like angsty teenagers I can't do nothing for you so I will just go away from this thread and leave you in your ignorance.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Needs a time out; ban history of flaming" - NiandraLades))[/highlight]
He probably is a rapist, but I do feel like some people may just be making this stuff up to hop on a bandwagon, either to try and raise awareness for this shit eater (more likely) even if it is with false claims, or (hopefully untrue) they are trying to get attention. OP's case does seem very "off" and scripted, like a movie.
Obviously, if I'm wrong, I will look like a massive shitlord, and for anyone who is an actual victim of this tragedy I have a lot of sympathy. I am just skeptical about the cases of some of these people is all.
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46078976]You people are blinded by stupidity, act and post like angsty teenagers I can't do nothing for you so I will just go away from this thread and leave you in your ignorance.[/QUOTE]
Only people without a rebuttal say this.
[QUOTE=Baconator 7;46078650]
-That Buzzfeed article, [sp]I don't use facebook so I don't know if this is a dumb question[/sp] why is "Sam" named "Facebook User"? Why are there no timestamps on those chat logs?
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IIRC that happens when the other end deletes their account or one participant has the other blocked - in this case Sam blocked the girl after she stopped playing ball.
[QUOTE=Baconator 7;46078650]-All of these sexual harassment stories sound pretty similar, in fact. They all happened about 2-3 years ago and nobody bothered to do anything about it until now (or, more specifically, three days ago when claiming Sam is a rapist became a thing), they all involve Sam doing something moderately offensive to the girl in question and then have her reaction be explained (in every story) as "oh well I didn't want to be rude or anything so I just laughed and flirted with him lol". Sounds like a lot of people jumping on the bandwagon to me.
[/QUOTE]
That's a product of the status quo. The girls feel like they'd be rude or unjustified in protesting, so they play along with it despite their better judgement. Not to mention that, in Dottie's case at least, she was a fan of Sam up to this point, so her mind was dealing with her impression of Sam from Youtube and the one sitting next to her.
[QUOTE=Baconator 7;46078650]
-Dottie: Links to these chat logs that you're suddenly capable of finding 2 years after they occurred? Sorry but showing me that "Sam Pepper" without timestamps sent you three messages doesn't really convince me that he sexually assaulted you.
-Anonymous girl: So this rape happened two and a half months ago, and it doesn't become relevant until about a day after people begin to claim that Sam Pepper is a rapist because of this ass-grabbing video he made?[/QUOTE]
No explanation re: timestamps, but often when this happens you can feel isolated. Don't forget that he still has millions of subscribers, so piping up at the time would probably just end up being flamed, and feeling like you're on your own. Now that this whole thing has been kicked up the victims feel like they have some support behind them, which makes it easier for them to come out about it.
[QUOTE=AlexDeviant;46078310]Why are you putting words that I didn't say in my mouth?
So you have super power is what you're telling me? Once again who do you seriously think you are??
You have got to realize all the girls in his video gave their consent beforehand, they knew EXACTLY what he was going to do (whether him or simple pickup or any channel like that).
And all those 'proofs' you are showing are really inconsistent, considering the global climate of the internet right now [b]you know sjw will go the EXTREME length to get their point across,[/b] just take a look at that Emma Watson supposed leak.[/QUOTE]
Now, there are other people who have made much more reasonable, thought out, and polite posts than yours that deserve much more of a response but frankly it's 11 at night, I just woke up randomly and I need to get back to bed and don't have the energy to read/reply to massive walls right now. This bothered me in your first post as well.
SJWs have nothing to do with this. At all. It's not a matter of I, or any of those girls who came forward and are speaking out about this, or the legions of people hating on Pepper being about feminism, or people's rights, or whatever shit, it's just about [I]we care about other human beings being raped and Sam Pepper seems pretty damn likely to be guilty.[/I]
I'm really tired of SJWs constantly being brought in to every discussion, and it makes me yearn for the internet back a long time ago. Now I was a young teenager so I didn't have the perspective I do now, but, one thing that I remember is that people weren't constantly accused of being a feminist or social justice warrior, or having transgender people and shit like that dragged in to a conversation to make fun of them for no reason, and you could just believe something. And if the Sam Pepper controversy was happening then, people wouldn't just be written off like that, everyone would just think that Sam Pepper pissed people off and their reasons for being pissed off are x that he did, same for any other situation. I miss those days, now it seems like people have gotten just as obsessed with SJWs as SJWs are obsessed with perceived bigotries.
I guess I wish people would look at stuff like this happening and think, would they have assumed that the people who are angry about it are angry because they're feminists or SJWs and ask themselves if they would think the same thing if they had heard about the same crime back in like 2008 or 2009. I want people to realize that often it's just people who are angry because they looked at this and saw something objectionable to them or whatever. I don't know, maybe this post reads like preachy, wistful ass.
It's common knowledge that when a celebrity enters hot water over some kind of sexual issue, people tend to come forward. This has just happened in the UK over the last two years, starting with Jimmy Savile and most recently featuring Dave Lee Travis, a radio host. The latter case is interesting, because he was first cleared of all of his charges (either he was falsely accused, or there wasn't enough evidence), but recently came back to court and was now found guilty. One reported incident can make people see a celebrity in a different light, and that can be the push survivors need to come forward about what that person did to them.
It's still stupid to excuse them about not going to the cops or any other of the numerous help organaziations because they were traumatized (and that is completely understandable and I am not trying to argue this) but coming out to anonymous masses where it's most likely that a good percentage will not respond very appropriately is somehow a-ok and not subject to that trauma.
[QUOTE=Killuah;46079511]It's still stupid to excuse them about not going to the cops or any other of the numerous help organaziations because they were traumatized (and that is completely understandable and I am not trying to argue this) but coming out to anonymous masses where it's most likely that a good percentage will not respond very appropriately is somehow a-ok and not subject to that trauma.[/QUOTE]
It's because now that people are talking about it, They know they won't be ostracized because of it. "Other people are standing up against it, maybe I can do it without being shunned now!"
[QUOTE=Killuah;46079511]It's still stupid to excuse them about not going to the cops or any other of the numerous help organaziations because they were traumatized (and that is completely understandable and I am not trying to argue this) but coming out to anonymous masses where it's most likely that a good percentage will not respond very appropriately is somehow a-ok and not subject to that trauma.[/QUOTE]
Look at yourself. Look at your parents. Look at your friends.
I'd like you to tell me which ones make logical decisions while under extreme distress every time. IT IS A PERFECTLY VALID EXCUSE FOR NOT GOING TO THE DAMN COPS IN TIME. People are irrational and illogical most of the time, put them in a situation where they're emotionally compromised and you can not expect them to always make the right move, especially to consent to something like a rape kit which may feel invasive after being violated.
People come out when someone has been accused for a multitude of reasons, but the biggest one is because they realize that there are others that have been through the same shit they have. Multiple people have a much higher chance of being believed that one lone person. Nobody wants to be the lone person on a pedestal.
Eh, Pepper gives me this vibe that he's a sexual deviant who made the ass-pinching video public so he can get more enjoyment out of what he did and attempting to stay under the radar.
And then this rape shit comes along and woah I'm like fuck this Pepper guy
I mean fuck, he's a got bunch of other videos that go in the wierd sexual category.
[QUOTE=doomkiwi;46079775]Look at yourself. Look at your parents. Look at your friends.
I'd like you to tell me which ones make logical decisions while under extreme distress every time. IT IS A PERFECTLY VALID EXCUSE FOR NOT GOING TO THE DAMN COPS IN TIME. People are irrational and illogical most of the time, put them in a situation where they're emotionally compromised and you can not expect them to always make the right move, especially to consent to something like a rape kit which may feel invasive after being violated.
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Yes I am not arguing against that. I even say so in my post.
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People come out when someone has been accused for a multitude of reasons, but the biggest one is because they realize that there are others that have been through the same shit they have. Multiple people have a much higher chance of being believed that one lone person. Nobody wants to be the lone person on a pedestal.[/QUOTE]
However, seeing that others have been through the same shit is a rational decision. You see others, you react. Coming out with it now is a good move, better now than never.
Making a fucking Youtube video about it is not. If you don't want to be on a pedestal don't make a fucking video on youtube. Contact the others, see specialists, talk to people you know.
She even admits that.
[quote]Posting this video did the opposite of benefitting me. It has outed me to public scrutiny, to rude and abusive comments, to shame and to fear. I am terrified of being contacted by Sam or his team. (Does he have one of those? How does this work? I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know.) I feel like rape is scary enough, but to go through a whole uglv scandal about mine is like second violation, and I hate this. I hate this. I want to delete the video. I want to forget again. I want to bury it.[/quote]
Making the damn video is a perfectly rational act, you've got to record, it even has some moderate post production. Quite some thought went into the video.
Why not the thought that it might not be very helpful to do it in the first place?
[editline]26th September 2014[/editline]
The fucking video is even relinked in a post newer than the one where she says that she wishes she wouldn't have posted the video.
man famous people think they can do anything and get away with it.
shits fucked.
a woman is raped and people are doubting her because 'sjws'
this is exactly why she didn't file a police report
im not gonna call this guy a rapist until it's actually proved
still a cunt tho
She said that she has rotting dna evidence inside her, why not turn it in?
why come out now?
[QUOTE=Mythofpeas;46080489]She said that she has rotting dna evidence inside her, why not turn it in?
why come out now?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46079354]It's common knowledge that when a celebrity enters hot water over some kind of sexual issue, people tend to come forward. This has just happened in the UK over the last two years, starting with Jimmy Savile and most recently featuring Dave Lee Travis, a radio host. The latter case is interesting, because he was first cleared of all of his charges (either he was falsely accused, or there wasn't enough evidence), but recently came back to court and was now found guilty. One reported incident can make people see a celebrity in a different light, and that can be the push survivors need to come forward about what that person did to them.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;46080461]im not gonna call this guy a rapist until it's actually proved
still a cunt tho[/QUOTE]
This. Innocent until proven guilty.
The guy a is a massive tool and an idiot but rape accusations are a very serious thing.
If someone can actually deliver proof and it turns out that he actually did rape all those girls he can go ahead and rot in hell for it.
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