Why the Blue Yeti sucks

[Mitsuma]

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;52395593]I'd like to point out that for this "you'll never go anywhere" point (and other mistakes raised in this thread eg the motherboard soundcard decoding USB), the guy has already corrected a lot of them in the description. Read it!

[editline]23rd June 2017[/editline]

I'll even post them here! (emphasis mine)[/QUOTE]

To be honest, it doesn't matter what he edits. Take down the video and correct it.
If you already have to correct 6 major points of your argument that were not vague in the video to begin with then those edits just make it seem like "Damage control".

Its a bad video with factual wrong information and stolen 1:1 jokes.

[timbered.plum]

the worst part is his voice is bad!!!

[Makzu]

[URL="http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spvonk"]Weegee's response[/URL]

[QUOTE]The Toys R Us bit was never intended to be malicious in any way, but rather a tongue-and-cheek nod/reference to the video I pulled part of my inspiration from. The way I presented this was admittedly improper and unprofessional. It was wrong of me to not first discuss this with him beforehand, and I very much regret not doing so. Since the videos publication, I have reached out to SoulBro directly and have been working with him on resolving this matter. I will provide more details about this when/if appropriate.

I know that I have lost a lot of credibility and respect over this (which I don't expect to get back from a lot of people,) but I'm hoping to make things as right as possible moving forward. Thank you for reading.[/QUOTE]

[FFStudios]

has anybody noticed that every time someone makes a Blue Yeti video (and there are probably hundreds out there), it's always some dude who has no idea what he's actually talking about and views microphones/audio engineering in general as a hobby.

it's also pretty lol-worthy that instead of actually listening to the people who know what they're talking about, this guy goes on twitter to roll with the punches like some edgy pre-teen

[editline]24th June 2017[/editline]

for the record, as an actual working and practicing audio engineer, I will shit in anybody's mouth who wants to claim that the yeti is a "bad mic". most kiddies can't get past the 16-bit/44.1khz limitation of USB. i will literally show you a spectral analysis of audio recorded with the yeti vs. an XLR setup and show you exactly what areas the Yeti does well in.

unfortunately, you won't see any in the video in the OP, because the creator of said video is a complete moron and science doesn't equal views

[Penultimate]

I made the mistake of buying a brand new snowball off Amazon because I thought it was a good idea.

Worked first time out of the box, and never again. It's probably something wrong with the actual USB chord, but fuck any kind of product that's brand new and doesn't work. Now I'm using an incredibly cheap, clip-on microphone that uses the audio jack and my favorite part about it is it actually works.

[Talvy]

Tho' virtually all products have defects, that sucks nevertheless.

[ROFLBURGER]

I never knew that there were experts in microphones in here. Does this stem from people here knowing about voice acting or just knowing how to record things in general?

[Fish Poke]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52398310]I never knew that there were experts in microphones in here. Does this stem from people here knowing about voice acting or just knowing how to record things in general?[/QUOTE]

I mostly learned about microphones as a byproduct of doing film stuff. Good audio isn't noticeable, bad audio is; all about various microphones and their uses; how to do proper booth recordings and so on. And I was required to take a Radio Production course where I used a mixer and an XLR set up in a booth to record and EQ ads for class. It's not exactly complex stuff until you get into actual engineering, which is fucking nuts.

[Cronos]

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52393651][media]https://soundcloud.com/cloakra/alright[/media]

i own a blue yeti

the dude isn't insulting you, this is very good advice

sure, his point is very aggressively made, but i can understand why this would anger audio people because it's such a ridiculous price[/QUOTE]

with the blue yeti part being much louder it doesn't actually seem night and day and can't compare here. Need to be saying the same thing, recorded simultaneously, and both recordings adjusted to be the same volume.

[_RIley]

[QUOTE=Penultimate;52397937]I made the mistake of buying a brand new snowball off Amazon because I thought it was a good idea.

Worked first time out of the box, and never again. It's probably something wrong with the actual USB chord, but fuck any kind of product that's brand new and doesn't work. Now I'm using an incredibly cheap, clip-on microphone that uses the audio jack and my favorite part about it is it actually works.[/QUOTE]

To be fair, that case is probably 1 in 2000 at worst. I bought a yeti years ago and I don't plan on switching. It's a good mic, quality build (dropped it a few times oops) and is insanely simple to use. Unless you're doing professional work, it's fine. You really don't need something any more expensive if you're doing just YouTube. Like someone said above, expensive gear won't make your video any better if it's shitty.

You don't even need a blue yeti-tier mic to produce good videos. But if you're willing to pay the price, go for it. It's a good mic. Not XLR grade, but good.

[Timidity]

I own an ATR2500 (yay, USB) because it was the most accessible/affordable at the time. I mostly just use it for gaming and reviews anyway, so I don't really want to invest in an expensive audio setup.

I really don't get his point about having good/expensive audio equipment = "great" quality content :s:

[That Sprite]

I really don't get any of the elitism going on in regards to microphones, I literally barely notice the quality of microphone on livestreams and kind of think the over-the-top, super expensive bass boosting setups are even kind of obnoxious. As long as a setup doesn't sound like shit with huge background noise, who is going to [I]care[/I] except overzealous audiophiles?

If someone is seriously offput by my content purely because I use a Blue Snowball, I don't think they're the kind of person I want watching my stream anyways.

[Cloak_Raider]

[QUOTE=Cronos Dage;52398460]with the blue yeti part being much louder it doesn't actually seem night and day and can't compare here. Need to be saying the same thing, recorded simultaneously, and both recordings adjusted to be the same volume.[/QUOTE]

there's about 50 people who have done exactly the same comparison - i'm sure if you did a load of cleanup, you can get the blue yeti sounding better, but that's not the point, the point is you don't want to be fighting your microphone while making a recording

the biggest piece of evidence for them being night and day is in the "how to be a voice actor" video which the dude stole the joke from

if the sound quality was comparable, you would see studios using them rather than XLR - but you don't

[notgeogzm]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52398310]I never knew that there were experts in microphones in here. Does this stem from people here knowing about voice acting or just knowing how to record things in general?[/QUOTE]

i go to university to study sound

[Lobstuzz]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52398310]I never knew that there were experts in microphones in here. Does this stem from people here knowing about voice acting or just knowing how to record things in general?[/QUOTE]

I'm not an expert but that doesn't mean I'm not 100% certain about what I'm talking about.

You can know a lot about a field without being an expert.

[redBadger]

His "real audio setup" is actually total hot garbage by real recording standards. Not bad for budget consumers, and the Shure sm7b is a decently basic vocal microphone, but he's being so elitist when his shit is on the cheap side.

Not to mention the guy clearly doesn't know anything about recording because the way his voice is positioned next to the microphone is 150% wrong. You can tell that he probably has his mouth right on top of the microphone giving it a real uncanny "fat" tone and loudness to it that sounds unnatural and a incredibly weird and unnatural.

The guy knows basic stuff, and ranting as hard as he did on USB mic is both elitist, unnecessary, and completely stupid. He also clearly isn't using a pop filter as I can feel his spit from the plosives coming out of my studio headphones.

[sir whoopsalot]

[QUOTE=redBadger;52400237]He also clearly isn't using a pop filter as I can feel his spit from the plosives coming out of my studio headphones.[/QUOTE]

In his defense, the SM7B has a pop filter built into it. Which explains why it sounds like he's using one half the time but not the other.

However, on the other hand, imagine how fucking close he is to the mic and how shit his technique is in that case.

[Fish Poke]

All you have to do to fix plosives is angle the mic so you aren't speaking directly into it. Technique meshes with equipment, so poor technique will gimp you even if you have good equipment.

[redBadger]

If you have it above your face angled toward your mouth you don't need a pop filter and you aren't losing any loudness.

[ROFLBURGER]

[QUOTE=Lobstuzz;52400014]I'm not an expert but that doesn't mean I'm not 100% certain about what I'm talking about.

You can know a lot about a field without being an expert.[/QUOTE]

I was only asking just so I could probably sneak some free social advice on a project I've been working on. I was wondering if anyone here had experience with voice acting and/or dealing with voice actors.

[Senn]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52398310]I never knew that there were experts in microphones in here. Does this stem from people here knowing about voice acting or just knowing how to record things in general?[/QUOTE]

I'm a sound designer

[editline]26th June 2017[/editline]

[QUOTE=redBadger;52401264]If you have it above your face angled toward your mouth you don't need a pop filter and you aren't losing any loudness.[/QUOTE]

If you know how to handle a microphone pretty well you certainly don't need a pop filter, though I still think you would need a pop filter, not for reducing plosives but so spit doesn't damage your microphone

[Hardpoint Nomad]

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52393651][media]https://soundcloud.com/cloakra/alright[/media]

i own a blue yeti

the dude isn't insulting you, this is very good advice

sure, his point is very aggressively made, but i can understand why this would anger audio people because it's such a ridiculous price[/QUOTE]

I used to own a CAD U37 and for the price, the Yeti makes leaps and bounds if you're making music.

[media]https://soundcloud.com/hardpoint-nomad/my-song-14[/media]

[Lobstuzz]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;52401463]I was only asking just so I could probably sneak some free social advice on a project I've been working on. I was wondering if anyone here had experience with voice acting and/or dealing with voice actors.[/QUOTE]

Ah damn, my apologies. I thought you were making an "armchair expert" type joke.

[LoneWolf_Recon]

[QUOTE=FFStudios;52397909]has anybody noticed that every time someone makes a Blue Yeti video (and there are probably hundreds out there), it's always some dude who has no idea what he's actually talking about and views microphones/audio engineering in general as a hobby.

it's also pretty lol-worthy that instead of actually listening to the people who know what they're talking about, this guy goes on twitter to roll with the punches like some edgy pre-teen

[editline]24th June 2017[/editline]

for the record, as an actual working and practicing audio engineer, I will shit in anybody's mouth who wants to claim that the yeti is a "bad mic". most kiddies can't get past the 16-bit/44.1khz limitation of USB. i will literally show you a spectral analysis of audio recorded with the yeti vs. an XLR setup and show you exactly what areas the Yeti does well in.

unfortunately, you won't see any in the video in the OP, because the creator of said video is a complete moron and science doesn't equal views[/QUOTE]

Even then if you increase the bit depth of the ADC to 20 or 24bits you'll get an increase in performance but marginal returns in quality. USB can deliver well above that bandwidth but it just become indiscernible increases in quality above those bit depths.

And besides 16bit/44.1kHz is fine as you're still picking up the entire audible frequency range (See Nyquist theorum).

All that maters is that you just keep bg noise down with acoustic panels, etc.

[Xavith]

It honestly is pretty disgusting how blatantly he's ripped of [url]https://www.youtube.com/user/soulbrothanumbuh3[/url]

[Jojje]

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUhdIsLKEvU[/media]

A response video that says it all, really. Also points out the plagiarism.
Go to 4:37 if you want to skip the plagiarism.
The last 3 seconds of the video made the whole video worth it imo

[zanahorowa]

So, Weegee has dropped all semblance of professionalism for the situation and took to mocking people for getting upset over it.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/KWdq221.png[/img]

[url]https://twitter.com/WEEGEETHEGOD/status/880170547593838593[/url]